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Title: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 28, 2005, 01:29:19 am
Penn Jilette?  John Stossel?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Pat K on April 28, 2005, 01:43:42 am
Well Penn would certainly be a "big" speaker.

I just read his book sock, and liked it. If you could Imagine a Heinlein who was born in the 60's writting in a Faulknerian stream of consicnous, while on methamphetamine.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Rocketman on April 28, 2005, 05:20:50 am
Yeah, I just finished Sock as well... a must read for libertarian atheists, especially.  Good description, Pat.

My psychic told me the speaker might be Ron Paul, but gosh, he'd be awfully small next to Penn  ;)

Wow, can y'all imagine a full Stossel report on PorcFest for 20/20?  That would be perfect -- he could interview us, ask us easy, devil's advocate questions, and we could hit a gazillion homeruns in front of a massive TV audience.

Whatever's brewing, I've got a real good feeling about it!  PorcFest is gonna kick ass!

Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: freedomroad on April 28, 2005, 11:32:32 am
Penn Jilette?  John Stossel?

Ian, I'd love if you spoke at the Porc Fest  ;)  However, I am not even show if you are gonna come  :'(

Really, though.  I'd love to see Doug Stanhope or another pro-liberty comedy guy (Dennis Miller, Chris Rock, Drew Carry, Howard Stren, P.J. O'Rourke, Dave Barry, Jason Alexander, John Larroquette, or Tommy Chong)
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 28, 2005, 03:18:27 pm
FTL plans on attending, but we have yet to tie up all the loose ends and announce it.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: lloydbob1 on April 28, 2005, 03:58:57 pm
Penn Jilette?  John Stossel?

Ian, I'd love if you spoke at the Porc Fest  ;)  However, I am not even show if you are gonna come  :'(

Really, though.  I'd love to see Doug Stanhope or another pro-liberty comedy guy (Dennis Miller, Chris Rock, Drew Carry, Howard Stren, P.J. O'Rourke, Dave Barry, Jason Alexander, John Larroquette, or Tommy Chong)

Stossel would be soooooo much better than any of these guys, particularly if he did a piece on us.

I think it is Badnarik, although, he is hardly a big name outside of libertarianism, but, it has been announced that badnarik is coming.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: freedomroad on April 28, 2005, 04:12:37 pm
Penn Jilette?  John Stossel?

Ian, I'd love if you spoke at the Porc Fest  ;)  However, I am not even show if you are gonna come  :'(

Really, though.  I'd love to see Doug Stanhope or another pro-liberty comedy guy (Dennis Miller, Chris Rock, Drew Carry, Howard Stren, P.J. O'Rourke, Dave Barry, Jason Alexander, John Larroquette, or Tommy Chong)

Stossel would be soooooo much better than any of these guys, particularly if he did a piece on us.

I think it is Badnarik, although, he is hardly a big name outside of libertarianism, but, it has been announced that badnarik is coming.

Stossel gives talks around the country.  However, I've never seen him do a 20/20 show on him giving a talk about his book.  Badnarik is already expected to speak.  Although, I did not even know that there was a yet to be announced big name speaker. 
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Pat K on April 28, 2005, 04:49:03 pm
I would also be a "big" speaker, but just to let everyone know. Even though some of the leadership begged me to speak on the glory of mission statement, I declined.  I know this will disappoint many.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 28, 2005, 04:56:17 pm
Although, I did not even know that there was a yet to be announced big name speaker.

Jason said in another thread (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=9850.0):
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* Varrin & Tim haven't announced it yet, but we will have a big name speaker at the Porc Fest. Someone whom I'm very excited about.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on April 28, 2005, 05:27:59 pm
Badnarik is big, but this guy is probably more widely known. He's probably not quite as widely known as Penn and Teller, but his writing is very exciting, and was influential on me when I was in college.

Any more guesses? ;)
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: lloydbob1 on April 28, 2005, 06:37:19 pm
Nozick?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Rocketman on April 28, 2005, 06:42:55 pm
Well, Hayek and von Mises are dead, so we can rule them out... :'( ;) ;D
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Herself on April 28, 2005, 07:01:41 pm
It will be the reanimated Head of Ayn Rand!*  --Be sure and bring the kids, we don't know how long the technology will work.  Or you could ask me.  I'm not famous and I give lousy speeches, but hey -- I won't ask for anything but travel and expenses!

     --H
_____________________________________________
* (Okay, trivia buffs, why is this one presently scientifically impossible twice over?  Bonus: to what novel am I alluding?  Who wrote it?)

P.P.S: are his initials LNS?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Rocketman on April 28, 2005, 07:05:03 pm
L. Neil Smtih, huh?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on April 28, 2005, 07:16:31 pm
L. Neil Smtih, huh?

Closer... He's not an academic, and he is alive, so that rules out Nozick, Hayek, Mises, and Rand. ;)
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: "Hagrid" on April 28, 2005, 07:34:58 pm
Not sure if this is the book you're referring to, but if it's not, it should be on your reading list too:

Sewer, Gas & Electric by Matt Ruff 

Ayn Rand, Robots, and much more...
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Pat K on April 28, 2005, 07:41:50 pm
Wait I know I know=Al gore will read his favorite passages from earth in the balance.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Greenbacks on April 28, 2005, 07:48:05 pm
Grover Nordquist

or

Charles Murray
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Friday on April 28, 2005, 07:49:21 pm
L. Neil Smtih, huh?

Closer... He's not an academic, and he is alive, so that rules out Nozick, Hayek, Mises, and Rand. ;)

David Brin?

Now I know it's not Boston T. Party...
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: lloydbob1 on April 28, 2005, 08:09:41 pm
H. Browne?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 28, 2005, 10:09:21 pm
Harry Browne would be awesome.  Especially if he joined up.  ;)
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: PintofStout on April 29, 2005, 08:14:22 am
Bzzzzzzzzzzzz

Do you feel that?  It's in the air here.

Oooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Toowm on April 29, 2005, 08:59:53 am
Authors: F. Paul Wilson, Vernor Vinge, Michael Crichton
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: atr on April 29, 2005, 09:01:30 am
L. Neil Smtih, huh?

Closer... He's not an academic, and he is alive, so that rules out Nozick, Hayek, Mises, and Rand. ;)

And Rawls  :P
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: freedomroad on April 29, 2005, 12:08:35 pm
L. Neil Smtih, huh?

Closer... He's not an academic, and he is alive, so that rules out Nozick, Hayek, Mises, and Rand. ;)

And Rawls  :P

I thought it might be Williams, but he's academic :(
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: jgmaynard on April 29, 2005, 12:36:05 pm
OK.....

Feeding the data in, I have a couple guesses.......

DATA: Economics-related, fairly well known, author (influential in last 5 years, since Jason read it in college), a male (since Jason said "HE is alive" ;)), friendly to the FSP (otherwise he wouldn't be coming), not an academic (primarily), and likely, they have already made some overture to the lib-friendly groups here.

Ergo, IMNSO, that leaves us with a few possibilities:

Harry Browne - Possible, but I think his dealings have left a lot of bad blood among some libs, so I don't think it's him.

Jim Babka - All of Harry Browne's probs with not being the person, PLUS less of a draw. Nope.

Bernard Von NotHaus - Primarily an academician - So, I would say it is not him.

Walter Williams - Maybe. Lives in VA. He'd be great though, and is not known primarily as an academician, but as a radio talk show host.

Marshall Fritz - HAS done LPNH related events in NH before, and other liberty related events here. High possibility of him being willing to participate, but probably not a large draw outside of our circles, ergo, I don't think it is him.

Rich Boddie - HIGH possiblity - He just did the Nov 2003 LPNH convention, and he went over GREAT, and was impressed by us as well.

AND - What I think is the winner.........

Dr. Ron Paul - Known nationwide as a US Rep, and he will already be in the area for the NHLA dinner. PLUS, we almost got him to come up once for the Keene STate Libs when I was helping to run it. I had some dealings with his office, and they were willing to bend over backwards to try to accomidate us. So...... That's who my money is on...:D

JM
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Friday on April 29, 2005, 12:44:57 pm
Sunni Maravillosa says here she's speaking...  http://www.sunnimaravillosa.com/

But Jason used the pronoun "he".  Hmmmm.....
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on April 29, 2005, 12:49:43 pm
DATA: Economics-related, fairly well known, author (influential in last 5 years, since Jason read it in college)

Hey, I'm not that young. ;) The book of his that influenced me most was written in the mid-late 90s IIRC. Why do you think his work is economics-related?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on April 29, 2005, 12:50:45 pm
Sunni Maravillosa says here she's speaking...  http://www.sunnimaravillosa.com/

But Jason used the pronoun "he".  Hmmmm.....

Oh, yes, Sunni will be there. I like her, think she's great, but I wasn't sure whether most people here would consider her a "big name." So I was thinking of someone else when I said that... :)
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: lloydbob1 on April 29, 2005, 03:48:30 pm
Thomas Sasz?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: lloydbob1 on April 29, 2005, 03:49:21 pm
N. Branden?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on April 29, 2005, 03:58:51 pm
Wow, no one has gotten it so far! That's a bit surprising. Ron Paul and Walter Williams were good guesses, though. I talked to Walter about coming, but he will be in California that week, and we just couldn't arrange it. Porc Fest attendees who also go to the Liberty Dinner will thus be getting a "double dip" - our speaker at PorcFest and Ron Paul at the Liberty Dinner!
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Rearden on April 29, 2005, 06:19:12 pm
I think I've guessed it, but I don't want to say.  Here, I'll put my guess in an envelope, and then I'll open it after the announcement and I'll say if I'm right or not. 

If it's who I think it is, this year's PorcFest will be generating some headlines. 
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Friday on April 29, 2005, 06:58:31 pm
Vin Suprynowicz?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: "Hagrid" on April 29, 2005, 07:13:44 pm
I know who is it, but only because it was mentioned on a mailing list.  (No, I won't say which one... but it's a public one, not a secret cabal list).

Even more exciting is the possiblity of Poker Face playing for us!
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Friday on April 29, 2005, 07:47:11 pm
OK, so I just plowed through Tim's latest (endlessly long) PorcFest Spam, and it does indeed say that Vin Suprynowicz will be there.  I don't know if that's who Jason is referring to, though. If it is, I expect some sort of prize.  ;D
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: MaineShark on April 29, 2005, 07:56:50 pm
Penn Jillette might be interesting...

Joe
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on April 29, 2005, 08:39:36 pm
Oh, Vin's going to be there? Ha! I didn't even know that. (Should I be ashamed that I don't read all the spams?) Wow, Porc Fest is going to have a lot of big-name people, isn't it? But no, the guy I'm thinking about is not Vin.

Maybe I should drop another hint or two. He's written several books, and has skewered, sliced, and diced with his research both the Clinton and Bush Administrations. The kind of research that he does is something that virtually no one else I know of does - at least, no one else does it nearly as well as he does it.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Friday on April 29, 2005, 09:24:23 pm
P.J. O'Rourke?!
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: lloydbob1 on April 29, 2005, 09:38:17 pm
Marvin??? Whats his name?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Pat K on April 29, 2005, 10:08:10 pm
I think Lloyd is thinking of Marvin Gross.

He wrote a call to arms, and the Washington racket from A-Z and others.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Pat K on April 29, 2005, 10:09:23 pm
Did anyone say James Bovard?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Pat K on April 29, 2005, 11:53:03 pm
Maybe his name was Martin Gross not sure now.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Rocketman on April 30, 2005, 02:30:10 am
Jason said:
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He's written several books, and has skewered, sliced, and diced with his research both the Clinton and Bush Administrations. The kind of research that he does is something that virtually no one else I know of does - at least, no one else does it nearly as well as he does it.

If this ain't Jim Bovard, I give up.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Friday on April 30, 2005, 09:47:34 am
OK, this is getting out of control. Last night I dreamt it was Arnold Schwarzenegger, with Maria in tow distributing pastries to the cheering throngs.   ::) Stop messing with my subconscious, Jason!!
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: "Hagrid" on April 30, 2005, 09:53:21 am
Jason said:
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He's written several books, and has skewered, sliced, and diced with his research both the Clinton and Bush Administrations. The kind of research that he does is something that virtually no one else I know of does - at least, no one else does it nearly as well as he does it.

If this ain't Jim Bovard, I give up.

Bingo.  You and Pat K got it.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on April 30, 2005, 09:56:23 am
Bingo.  You and Pat K got it.

Ding, ding, ding! We have two winners. What do we have for them, Seth?  ;D

The book of his that I really enjoyed was Lost Rights, which I read in '95 or '96, and then gave to several friends and family members. A must-read for libertarians, although it will increase your blood pressure.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 30, 2005, 10:00:23 am
Hmm... not that big of a name.  I've heard of Ron Paul and Michael Badnarik.  I'm sure he's a good author, but I don't know if he's a "big name". 
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on April 30, 2005, 10:27:31 am
Hmm... not that big of a name.  I've heard of Ron Paul and Michael Badnarik.  I'm sure he's a good author, but I don't know if he's a "big name". 

Well, I suppose he's well known to some "sectors" of the libertarian movement and not others... He writes for the Wall Street Journal, so if he likes what he sees,...
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 30, 2005, 10:36:11 am
Ohh.. now that would be valuable.  Is he a member?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: freedomroad on April 30, 2005, 10:43:04 am
Ohh.. now that would be valuable.  Is he a member?

If he was a member, he would likely appear somewhere on this page, http://freestateproject.org/about/endorsements/
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on April 30, 2005, 01:10:45 pm
Ohh.. now that would be valuable.  Is he a member?

Nope... AFAIK, he hadn't even heard of the FSP before the invitation. So this is something of an outreach effort as well. WEW and Ron Paul of course both know a lot about the FSP; it'll be good to reach out to parts of the movement that haven't heard about us yet.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: varrin on April 30, 2005, 01:55:54 pm
Just to clear up some misconceptions...   ;D

At least a couple people were reported as coming in this thread that I'm not even aware of:  Vin and Sunni.  If they're coming, that's more than cool, but they're not on the Saturday lineup.  Sunni may well be there and may even be involved in some of the 2A stuff (I'll check with the 'chief gun nut' on that one).  Pretty sure (just a stab in the dark here) Vin's not going to show. 

Jim Bovard *is* on the Saturday lineup.  I would have had the schedule revised by now, but I have had a touch of a family issue that has slowed me down...

And, just to keep the 'excitement' rolling...  There were a couple of other mentions here that are notable.  It now appears very likely that Poker Face will be playing Friday night, two one-hour sets ;)  I expect to have the details of that confirmed shortly but the 8-ball says outlook good.

And...  the details aren't set yet, but one other of the names mentioned in this thread may be there presenting on Friday.  Hints:  not a huge name (and not a huge person... Pat), but becoming quite well known in libertarian circles, mentioned (as far as I can see) only once so far.   And you all might have to keep guessing for a while because I won't spill the beans until this person is confirmed.  ;D

Oh, and yes, Badnarik is coming and speaking on Saturday also ;)

V- (live from Los Angeles)

Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Pat K on April 30, 2005, 03:40:23 pm
OK, this is getting out of control. Last night I dreamt it was Arnold Schwarzenegger, with Maria in tow distributing pastries to the cheering throngs.   ::) Stop messing with my subconscious, Jason!!


Holy crap what a nightmare, sometimes you really have to suffer for liberty.

Though I just chuckled to myself thinking about Arnold saying the word Porcupine. ;D
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: Herself on April 30, 2005, 04:42:42 pm
Sunni Maravillosa says [...] she's speaking...  [...]
But Jason used the pronoun "he".  Hmmmm.....
Oh, yes, Sunni will be there. I like her, think she's great, but I wasn't sure whether most people here would consider her a "big name." [...]
     Pete's sake, Jason, just how many syllables does a name need to be big?  "Mavarillosa," f'gosh sakes, a lovely name but not at all small!

     ;)
     --H
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: lloydbob1 on May 01, 2005, 08:41:13 am

Nope... AFAIK, he hadn't even heard of the FSP before the invitation.

Now, there is  a Frigg'in Travesty!
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: lloydbob1 on May 01, 2005, 08:44:04 am
I would love to see Richard Boddes come to one of these things.  I could hang out with him all week!
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: varrin on May 01, 2005, 08:41:31 pm
I would love to see Richard Boddes come to one of these things.  I could hang out with him all week!

I've been communicating regularly with Boddie lately, some about the FSP and some about jazz music.  I think he'd come if we paid him (or at least paid his way).  We'd need to raise some more money to do that, though, and the speaker lineup for saturday is full already.  But maybe next year ;)

V-

Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: citizen_142002 on May 04, 2005, 03:23:43 pm
I know it won't happen, but there is one name on my mind. Clint Eastwood. Think of what he could do for publicity, not to mention the Second Amendment activities!

On a more realistic note, maybe we should keep Penn and Teller in mind for 2006.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: FTL_Ian on May 04, 2005, 03:35:12 pm
Clint is a "libertarian" but not a very principled one.  The interview that the LP posted on their site is kind of embarrassing to watch... he's losing it... old age is setting in.
Title: Clint Eastwood "libertarian" interview
Post by: Rocketman on May 04, 2005, 05:44:41 pm
I know it won't happen, but there is one name on my mind. Clint Eastwood. Think of what he could do for publicity, not to mention the Second Amendment activities!

On a more realistic note, maybe we should keep Penn and Teller in mind for 2006.

Clint is a "libertarian" but not a very principled one. The interview that the LP posted on their site is kind of embarrassing to watch... he's losing it... old age is setting in.

Here's the email I sent to Hardball:

Hey Chris, I love your show.
 
I just saw your interview with Clint Eastwood, and I noticed that you seemed interested in his explanations of libertarianism.  Good for you, but you should know that most self-styled (small l) libertarians don't think Clint's a very principled libertarian.  I'm glad you asked those questions, but I'd really love to see you have a real libertarian on the show if you want to discuss the status of liberty in this country.  Hell, can you talk to Stossel?  He doesn't use the word "libertarian" much, but he exudes libertarianism.  MSNBC should offer him a jillion dollars and give him his own show! 

Or, for a real story, invite Jason Sorens or Amanda Phillips from the Free State Project.
 
By the way, I liked the way you said the U.S. is "still pretty libertarian" on some issues.  You implicitly ackowledge that liberty is our legacy in this country, and that liberty is being traded off and/or abandoned for other values.  Sad but true.
 
______________________________________________________________________________________

And yeah (*sigh*), I really do love Hardball.  :P
Title: Re: Clint Eastwood "libertarian" interview
Post by: KBCraig on May 05, 2005, 02:59:21 am
And yeah (*sigh*), I really do love Hardball.  :P

I loved Chris Matthews when he was the rebellious "conservative" at CNN. Ever since his migration to the channel formerly known as MSNBC, he's made it clear that he's just a bomb-thrower. He has no principles; he is against whoever is in power, but especially if it's a Republican.

Kevin
Title: Re: Clint Eastwood "libertarian" interview
Post by: Rocketman on May 05, 2005, 05:57:56 am
And yeah (*sigh*), I really do love Hardball.  :P

I loved Chris Matthews when he was the rebellious "conservative" at CNN. Ever since his migration to the channel formerly known as MSNBC, he's made it clear that he's just a bomb-thrower. He has no principles; he is against whoever is in power, but especially if it's a Republican.

Kevin


Love (*sigh*) is irrational, Kevin.  Anyway, I've been cheating on him, since The Dukes of Hazzard has been coming on at the same time.  ;D
I only saw the Eastwood interview because it was posted on lp.org
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: EclecticBuddha on May 06, 2005, 09:39:29 pm
so I may have an opportunity to drive from here in OH up to NH for possiblt 3 days... Wed. Thurs. and Fri.... possibly Sat. if I can get someone to cover me... so I was wondering, is everything going to pretty much be seminar/class type deals??? and is there going to be any more info on the events listed on the itinerary before porc-fest?
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: varrin on May 07, 2005, 07:19:27 am
so I may have an opportunity to drive from here in OH up to NH for possiblt 3 days... Wed. Thurs. and Fri.... possibly Sat. if I can get someone to cover me... so I was wondering, is everything going to pretty much be seminar/class type deals??? and is there going to be any more info on the events listed on the itinerary before porc-fest?

Look forward to seeing you there!  Not everything is seminar/class oriented.  Saturday, and Friday (to a lesser extent) is more 'seminarish'.  There's also a hike scheduled for Friday, a variety of 2nd Amendment activities on various days, and a concert on Friday night.  Thursday, there is a mock Town Hall meeting.  There's lots of variety, definitely not all seminar/class like.

A significant update to the schedule was recently posted here:

http://freestateproject.org/news/festival/schedule/

More updates will be coming between now and the fest.

Look forward to meeting you!

V-

Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: EclecticBuddha on May 07, 2005, 11:40:42 am
k, so heres my next question, are there any hot spots i need to avoid on the highways leading up there???  If I make it up I'll be leaving work tues. at 11p so the only thing i would really have to worry about is closed sections of roadway...
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: JasonPSorens on May 07, 2005, 01:22:54 pm
k, so heres my next question, are there any hot spots i need to avoid on the highways leading up there???  If I make it up I'll be leaving work tues. at 11p so the only thing i would really have to worry about is closed sections of roadway...

Don't drive through NYC. Coming from Ohio, the NY State Thruway should be a good option for you actually. MA and NY will charge you a fair amount for tolls along the way.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: lloydbob1 on May 07, 2005, 03:09:38 pm
The tolls on the Mass pike from NY to Rt. 91 are, either, not much, or , non-existant.  Go East onn the MA pike and Turn north on 91 (free) and go thru Mass. into VT and keep heading north to(VT) Exit 17, Wells River, VT, cross into NH at Woodsville on Rt. 302 and go to Littleton, where you can take a secondary road to Lancaster, or, stay on 302 to Rt. 3 north to Lancaster.
 Or, you can stay on 91 to exit 19 and take 93 to Littleton. You'll spend a lot of time in the Peoples State of Vermont with this route, but, it is direct.  The visitor centers on 91, will give you maps, but, as I would suggest to anyone coming to NH, get a copy of The New Hampshire Atlas and Gazeteer, published by DeLorme.  It has all of NH and the parts of VT that you will be concerned with on your trip.
I hope this helps.
Lloyd
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: citizen_142002 on May 10, 2005, 09:25:06 pm
There is a "temporary" border patrol checkpoint on I-91, just south of the Lebanon, New Hampshire exit. It is usually only up and running on the weekends. It is known as "white person checkpoint" because if you are white, you pretty much get waved through. That may not be true on a weekend night though, and especially if you have plates from a state outside of the area. Just a heads up. You could take an exit to the NH side of the river, before the checkpoint, and the cut back across to 91 when you hit Lebanon. It could cost you some time, but if you had some less than legal goodies in the car, it would be a good idea not to push it.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: MaineShark on May 10, 2005, 10:33:10 pm
Are you suggesting that someone might not obey the law, in all its respects?  Perish the thought! :)

Joe
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: EclecticBuddha on May 12, 2005, 11:30:48 am
Unless i pick something illegal up while im there I wont have any problems... thanks for the concern though.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: MaineShark on May 12, 2005, 05:17:44 pm
Mmmm... fireworks :)

Joe
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: freedomroad on July 21, 2005, 11:32:20 pm
Too bad I will not be able to see the big name speaker's speech.  As soon as Michael Badnarik speaks I have to get ready and then head to the 2005 Liberty Dinner.  I am sure I am not the only one in this boat...
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: FreeBoB on July 22, 2005, 12:01:43 am
How long does it take to drive from Rogers to Plymouth State?  We've got 1:15 from the end of Jim Bovard's speech to the start of the Liberty Dinner at 6:00.

Brian
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: freedomroad on July 22, 2005, 01:14:24 am
How long does it take to drive from Rogers to Plymouth State?  We've got 1:15 from the end of Jim Bovard's speech to the start of the Liberty Dinner at 6:00.

Brian

That's how long it takes.  however, I have to leave the speech area, go back to my tent, get my thrift store sports coat and other clothes, take them to the changing area, change, and then leave (at the same time many others are leaving the campground)...and I'm meeting my date at the college (she lives in Derry), so I'll need to be a few min. early

Yeah, I will not have time for one min. of Jim's speech.
Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: varrin on July 22, 2005, 07:08:13 am
I don't wanna steer anyone in the wrong direction but I *think* the actual speeches, etc. at the Liberty Dinner won't start until 6:30.  We can all ask Keith 1000 times at the Fest ;)

V-

Title: Re: A "big name speaker" has yet to be announced. Who is it?
Post by: "Hagrid" on July 22, 2005, 07:48:09 am
Unofficially, I can tell you that 6:30 is the start, and dinner is served first.  So, no accidents rushing around trying to 'get there on time', ok?