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Title: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Neo-Jeffersonian on November 04, 2004, 03:35:57 pm
Well, I don't know how many there are, but I know there is at least on.  ME!! :)  I voted for Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian candidate for the Presidency, this year.  I think we should all mourn.  The reason being, Bush won :(.  But then, we should also rejoice.  The reason being, Kerry lost.  ;)

So, how many libertarians are there on this forum?  

Das ist alles (german for that is everything)  
Title: Re:Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: dlenmn on November 19, 2004, 07:55:07 pm
Card carrying. I'm more disappointed with a Bush win than happy with Kerry's loss, but it's not a big deal. Badnarik is the man.
Title: Re:Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Neo-Jeffersonian on November 20, 2004, 12:42:50 am
Hoo Wah!

Awesome, dude.  Yeah.  Badnarik is the man.  
 

Gandalf....
Title: Re:Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: dlenmn on November 20, 2004, 05:20:18 pm
Amen, I'm going to read his book when I get the chance.
Title: Re:Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Neo-Jeffersonian on November 20, 2004, 10:23:03 pm
Yes, I as well.  I still need to pick up a copy.  I've seen him in person.  Got to shake his hand and talk to him.  He's a cool guy.  His book's called "it's good to be king," right?


Gandalf out.

P.S., it's kinda nice to have another Libertarian to talk to.  Eh?
Title: Re:Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: dlenmn on November 21, 2004, 05:27:45 pm
That's pretty cool. I saw a lot of him on http://www.libertariantv.com/ but I would really have liked to meet him in person. The full title is "Good To Be King: The Foundation of Our Constitutional Freedom"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1594110964/qid=1101075999/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-1000571-7513461?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Yeah, it is good to talk. Other libertarians are hard to find...
Title: Re:Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Neo-Jeffersonian on November 22, 2004, 02:27:55 pm
great!  I'll look into that.  Thanks

Gandalf
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Gabo on March 03, 2005, 08:35:09 pm
I've been meaning to look into Badnarik's book as well!



I read the sample chapter they had on the website, and it was fantastic!
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: joeyforpresident on June 23, 2005, 01:00:31 am

I just renewed my LP membership.

I, too, voted for Badnarik.

But I'm a "switch-hitter" in politics.

I'm a Libertarian Republican (Republican Liberty Caucus). I'm also very fond of Ralph Nader, to an extent.

Anyway, that's my story.
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Neo-Jeffersonian on June 27, 2005, 11:38:31 pm
Nader.... whwhhhhwh! *Convulses uncontrollably*..... No comment....
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Gabo on June 28, 2005, 12:39:11 pm
Badnarik's book is excellent.  I suggest everyone here to read it.


I would be a registered member of the LP........ but I'm not "voting age" yet.
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: bailey228 on June 30, 2005, 09:22:53 pm
Yup, I've been a Libertarian since I was born! I learned to say "DAMN GOB'MENT!!" by the time I was 2, thanks to daddy of course (although he claims he's a republican and completly supports Bush, yet we agree on every topic and I KNOW I'm not a republican, but that's another topic) I'm wondering if there are any other young Libertarian parents who beleive in homebirth and/or home schooling? Or are me and my husband the only ones? We joined the FSP already but we're going to move as soon as possible after the baby is born. And of course I voted for Badnarik!
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Neo-Jeffersonian on July 10, 2005, 01:50:00 am
Well, my parents homeschooled me.  Damn government schools couldn't cope with the fact that I have an independent mind, and they couldn't rewrite my hard-drive.  Program me to think they way they wanted me to think.  Learn only the stuff they wanted me to learn....   *stiffens up* oh.... sorry...  Sometimes the conspiracies flow freely...  I think I should go down to the doc's office and get that looked at.  Anyhow, yeah, not sure about the home birth and all... just seems more convenient in some ways just to go to the hospital...  But then again, there's all the implants and weird vaccines that no one's heard of, and the haven't been tested, and all that, and they probably but tracking devices in their brains, and who knows what el- oops... I'm doing it again....  I guess just I'm just in a conspiracy mood.  In any case, just so's y'all know, I'm really not sure I buy all the stuff I just said.  Like about the implants and tracking devices.  It is an interesting thought, however.  Reminds me of Manchurian Candidate.  The new one with Denzel Washington. 

I didn't get to vote for Badnarik :(...  I just wasn't quite old enough to make it in time for this election.  Will be able to next time, though, in '08.  So if he runs again, he certainly has my vote.

Oh, and y'all, vote for me when I run for president. ;)

Neo-Jeffersonian
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Misos on July 30, 2005, 07:16:13 am
My state government doesn't think I should vote for the LP, so I can't.  >:(
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: jenn_dorsett on July 30, 2005, 04:21:48 pm
hey bailey, I'm in the same boat, although no children yet.  Homebirth is a wonderful start to a childs life.  Besides, most hospital policy is very un-libertarian.  Unless you are well educated on the subject, and constantly asking invasive questions (which I hear can be difficult when in active labor) the hospital staff can pull some fast ones on you.  Example:  You have come to the hospital after a few hours of mild labor.  They admit you, check you, and find that you are 3cm along.  Next, they make you lay down.  After a few  hours of that (with minimal eatage and drinkage) and no progession, they put an IV drip with pitocin in it.  The drug starts very strong contractions, and very soon, you are in severe pain.  Remember, contraction are GOOD, they push the baby out.  But these contractions are so sudden and so severe, they can be dangerous.  So they give you a pain reducing epidural.  THAT drug slows labor even more, and also has a depressant effect on baby.  All this time you are laboring while laying down (which I hear is extremly painful, more so that squatting or kneeling)  because they won't let you get  up(even if you could with al those wires and tubes coming out of you) After checking the Fetal monitering system with is attached to babies head via SCREW the nurses see that his heart rate has dropped dangerously low.  Now your only choice is a ceasarean section.  Baby is delivered, hopefully breathing, and everyone involved is drugged-up and groggy.  No harm done, right?  Not exactly. 

Of, course not all hospital births are like this.  Some are worse.  If you don't really want to take responsibility for yourself and your child, the hospital is the PERFECT place.  I guess because  they know EVERYTHING about ANYTHING, including what feels right to you (and I bet half of those people have never delivered before!)
With all this technology, (and with some 80% of women delivery in hospitals) the US still manages to have THE HIGHEST infant and maternal mortality rate IN THE WORLD.  Is it me, or is this just retarded?

Ah, I degress. 

I suppose my point is this:  Hospitals are for sick people.  A pregenant/laboring woman isn't sick, she's just going through a natural process that her body was very well constructed for.  Most women don't have complications, and if they do, that is what 911 is for.

I am done with my rant for now.  Feel free to push my buttons, I love making the truth about hospital birth known, but most people don't want to hear it.

Happy Homebirth! ;D
-Jennifer
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: SPITFIRE on August 03, 2005, 08:50:46 pm
hello  peoples!  Ive always been looking for a place like this! lol
glad to see there are so many teenagers involved in this. 
I found out about this site last week just in time to check out the porcfest.
(which was about 40 minutes from my house) that was pretty awesome!  ;)
wellz i'll probly be on here alot now, so I'll just send a big "HI" to everyone!!
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: bailey228 on August 23, 2005, 05:07:16 pm
hey Jennifer! I'm glad that theres someone else out there who believes what my husband and I do. what your post stated is completly true and only scratches the surface of what hospitals do. Oh and the part about hospital births being unlibritarian, that could not be more true. Did you know that in IL every pregnant woman is forced to go through psychological testing before birth to rule out possibilty for post-natal depression? Oh and because I'm only 19 and about to have a baby that wasn't planned for  (THE PILL IS NOT 100% EFFECTIVE!!!!), that puts me at high risk even though I'm completly sane and want to have a happy healthy baby more than anything else in the world. Thankfully I don't go to the dr. otherwise I would be forced to take anti-depressants which could cause birth defects or possibly even death of my baby! They also require the same testing of children before the age of 5, if you refuse medication for your child they may take them away. If a pregnant woman refuses to take a HIV test (which I did seeing as I'm POSITIVE theres no way I could have it) her child is required BY LAW to be tested. This is government control as bad as I could ever imagine it being. The reason why our mortality rates are so high is because Dr's create 99.9% of the problems they "solve". Just being observed by someone while in labor automatically puts you at higher risk for complications because the body can no longer work as it was intended to. A woman in a hospital giving birth is frightened. Nature has this incredible response called fight or flight. However the body can't tell the difference between you being scared for a legitmate reason such as being attacked or if it's just your mind that is frightened of a situation. When this response is triggered, it causes the blood flow to be redirected from non-vital organs to your heart, arms and legs to run from or attack this thing that frightens you. Guess what the uterus is concidered non-vital. When it needs blood flow to function properly, it is not gettting any, is it any wonder why modern women expericence so much pain and complications? Childbirth is not supposed to be painful, the female body was designed to perform this very function. I agree with you, a woman who doesn't trust her body belongs in a hospital, she will need it. A woman who believes in her abilty to perform what nature has created her for belongs at home with her husband, no one else. (so much for the women's rights movement, women gladly give up their rights in a hospital)  I could literally go on for hours on the evils done to pregnant/laboring women, but I will spare you as most of you probably do not care. I just say one last thing, the government wants you in a hospital, they can control your child from the second they are born, just like they did to you. Birth them in an instution, school them in an institution, work in an institution, die in an institution, just like good little citizens.
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Sqirrel on September 10, 2005, 03:14:52 pm
Personally can't vote although interestingly enough, Badnarik won during our mock elections at my high school.  They made the mistake of offering up a chance to have a political debate (including gun rights, abortion, prohibition on drugs, and many other issues normally considered to be taboo by state funded schools) where I played no small part in converting a good majority of the school.  So yeah, good times.
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: mmb0914 on January 19, 2006, 05:59:30 pm
yep, I'm a libertarian in NC. i attend ECU.

we have a college libertarian club on campus that me, my friend, and about two other people belong to, but without any big political events going on (elections), we don't have much to do.

i hate neocons more than anything.
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Power Penguin on February 07, 2006, 09:14:40 pm
I'm a card member LP and I work for DownsizeDC. Anything else you'd like? :D I'm at UPS if anyone knows where that is. If not, don't worry about it; it doesn't matter ;D
Title: Re: Any LIBERTARIANS on the youth board?
Post by: Forastero on October 30, 2006, 12:34:08 pm
Well, I don't know how many there are, but I know there is at least on.  ME!! :)  I voted for Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian candidate for the Presidency, this year.  I think we should all mourn.  The reason being, Bush won :(.  But then, we should also rejoice.  The reason being, Kerry lost.  ;)

So, how many libertarians are there on this forum?  

Das ist alles (german for that is everything)  

Libertarian right here!