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Title: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on November 10, 2002, 06:19:20 am
This thread links to other message boards that are discussing us.   I and others build little press releases and send them to a dozen or so major mesage boards, triggering debate and recruitment.  We also send them to media outlets.  You can help us widen the coverage!

Just head to the end of this thread; there you will see messages we are posting to other forums and links to those forums.   Just copy the messages and post them to web forums or other media of your choice.  Make sure to use forums that have a lot of recent activity or it won't be worth your while.

If you start a thread on another web forum, please post a link to it here so we can see you in action!

This is a very effective way we can "be the media," get the word out about our project and imbed in the minds of the public the idea that New Hampshire has more freedoms and freedom fighters (per capita) than any other state.

Title: Re:Links to other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Kelton on November 11, 2002, 01:53:52 am
Links to discussions about the FSP by FReepers:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/737335/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/774211/posts
Title: Re:Links to other forums discussing FSP
Post by: JT on November 12, 2002, 10:32:52 pm
So let's setup a time that people can go and chat!  I go to Otosan's dalnet.

So what time can/do people go there?
Title: Re:Links to other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on November 15, 2002, 06:19:49 pm
More links:

Slashdot discussed us in Octover:
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/10/21/1325228.shtml

Tech Report also did the same:
http://www.tech-report.com/news_reply.x/4182/5/  

In both cases the discussion appears to be over, but these are great places to unscientifically guage public reaction.
Title: Re:Links to other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 13, 2002, 09:46:04 am
I would like to request a persistant link to this thread from our main site.   That will help funnel more FSP voices to the external debate going on about us.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Zxcv on December 13, 2002, 10:57:01 am
We just finished a discussion of FSP on the Marlin Firearms forum:

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/001252.html

Predictably, some in this mostly-conservative bunch had a problem with ending drug prohibition and a couple got in a snit about secession. I'm starting to think we need to de-emphasize the secession aspect somewhat.

Funny about how people are. I had a conversation with a politician a while back, where I asked him why politicians are so mealy-mouthed, never coming out and saying anything. He told me that if you had 10 positions and came out and said what they were forthrightly, and a given voter agreed with 9 of them, that he'd only remember the one he disagreed with you on! If all voters did the same thing, he would be sunk! So that's why the only positions they come out in favor of are ones that are carefully shown to have a healthy majority of support.

That concept was demonstrated in the above thread. Amazing that these guys would fixate on drugs and secession, when all the time in this same forum they complain about taxes and government thugs and saying government "can have their guns when they pry them from their cold, dead hands". But there it is. There seems to be a suspicious side of human nature, to look for the worst in a political program. I suppose that is not too unreasonable! ;)
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Steve on December 13, 2002, 11:59:54 am
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He told me that if you had 10 positions and came out and said what they were forthrightly, and a given voter agreed with 9 of them, that he'd only remember the one he disagreed with you on!
Quite insightful.
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Amazing that these guys would fixate on drugs and secession, when all the time in this same forum they complain about taxes and government thugs and saying government "can have their guns when they pry them from their cold, dead hands". But there it is.
Libertarians are like that: they can be 99% in agreement, but focus on that remaining 1%.  It's the principle that matters to them, not the measurable result.  The Free State Project cares about results.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: JasonPSorens on December 13, 2002, 12:06:47 pm
I don't know where people get off on this "secession" thing.  The word isn't mentioned on our website, except in the FAQ, where we say we're not secessionist. ???
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: wes237 on December 13, 2002, 02:10:05 pm
When I go to the MSN home page and put Free State Project in the search engine ... the web site listed for the FSP has a brief description that says in part  "...and eventually secede from the United States".
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: ZuG on December 13, 2002, 10:23:50 pm
Eww, he's right... it's the number one link...


Was that an earlier revision of the FSP or something?
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: JasonPSorens on December 15, 2002, 12:04:13 pm
No, that's their own interpretation I guess.  I sent them an email a while back noting the error, but I guess they never changed it.  But who uses MSN search anymore?  Google's by far the best. ;)
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: craft_6 on December 16, 2002, 03:22:30 pm
The FSP was discussed on e-thepeople.org earlier this year, but the discussion is still open for new comments.  The site is pretty balanced between liberals and conservatives, with a decent percentage of libertarians thrown in.

http://www.e-thepeople.org/a-national/article/10057/view

Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: wes237 on December 16, 2002, 09:27:14 pm
Since my personal email is MSN/Hotmail ... I use MSN search frequently. I doubt I am alone. In fact I never heard of google until a couple of months ago, and do admit it is good.

I was simply reporting an observation. And since I really don't have an in-depth interest in computers (and there are many like me) ... I use computers for the basics of my needs....when somebody makes a comment like this I tune out and turn off. Got no time in my life for  snots.

There is an arrogance with this movement at times that is a turn-off. If the arguement about voting does not chase me away from here, then a few more "looking down your nose"
remarks like this ... certainly will. If I had this attitude when you showed up in my hospital emergency room, would my emergency room be your "first choice" the next time?

As an individualist, I have many choices when it comes to liberty.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: JasonPSorens on December 16, 2002, 10:04:00 pm
My comment was not in any way intended to be snotty; I do not see how it could have possibly conveyed that impression, and I apologize for doing so.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 18, 2002, 08:29:25 pm
Guys, please, this thread is supposed to be a list of links to external forums discussing us.   The more we post off-topic here the longer it will take folks to sort though the thread and find the links.   BTW I would like to request a link to this thread somewhere on our main site. ...maybe call it "External Forums discussing the FSP" or something.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: James Reyes on December 20, 2002, 11:58:58 pm
There has been talk of the FSP at libertyforums.com which officially supports the FSP.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 22, 2002, 11:23:22 am
Here's another one that's not yet on this list:

http://www.free-market.net/forums/freestate0202/
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 24, 2002, 08:07:22 pm
Another one:

http://www.libertarianunderground.com/Forum/index.php

You may have to navitgate to the FSP-related threads  from this link, however.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Kelton on December 27, 2002, 04:58:32 am
     http://www.joelskousen.com/forums/index.html

Some background:

The Skousen family is well-known among conservative, pro-liberty Latter-Day Saint and other U.S. heritage/ Constitutional studies people, particularly those with a religious bent.  Joel is an expert on world affairs and survivalist issues.  

His following is about as diverse as this group, there are soccer-mom homeschoolers to objectivists to pro-militia groups hanging around that water-cooler, they share having read something by Mr. Skousen.  Sometimes the group is a little loopy, and they like to dwell on preparing for calamities, UN police state/ New World Order/ conspiracy ideas.
Most interesting of all related to this forum is Joel Skousen's book, Strategic Relocation, which gives some research and ideas for moving to locations to escape or lessen the effects of upcoming calamities and loss of liberty.  
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 27, 2002, 09:22:02 pm
Exitus:  Nice link.  I'm on it.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Zxcv on December 29, 2002, 12:11:05 pm
Maybe we ought to try talking him into joining our group, and bringing his associates with him?

Or do you think we might be a little too strange for him?  ;)
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 08, 2003, 08:22:36 pm
A couple links to Usenet discussions about us.  They're not new but are good to read to get a feel for the opposition that's out there.  

This one is I think at misc.survivalism:  

 FSP Newsgroup discussion link 1  (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=f283b08d.0210250432.4835f40e%40posting.google.com&rnum=9&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3Df283b08d.0210250432.4835f40e%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D9)  



This next one, I believe, is on alt.callahans (i may be misspelling "callahans")


 FSP Newsgroup discussion link 2  (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=apk1qt%246ag%241%40news3.bu.edu&rnum=8&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfree%2Bstate%2Bproject%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN)


What would be nice is if folks could post more links here to discussiosn which are still active.  It would also be cool if we had folks that could follow up with e-mails to people who posted to these threads in support of us but aren't  yet Porcupines.  Wish I could do everything.
 

 
 
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Zxcv on January 11, 2003, 07:29:31 pm
Robert, if you use this tag:

Code: [Select]
[url=http://site.com]SITE[/url]

...your link appears like this:

  SITE  

That way you can deal with those looooong links...
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Elizabeth on January 20, 2003, 10:45:19 pm
http://www.e-thepeople.org/a-national/article/14065/view
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Racer X on March 10, 2003, 11:55:18 pm
A discussion about the FSP has started on Guerrilla News Network.  There is a lot of anti-gov sentiment over there but they do seem to lean left.  There are some libertarians lurking about , however.  Go to the forums in the upper right of the screen, then go to the open forum.

http://gnn.tv


Racer X
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 11, 2003, 01:21:10 am
the direct link to the discussion racer is refering to is   here   (http://www.guerrillanews.com/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=gnn&Number=129911&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&part=)
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Raistath on March 13, 2003, 03:09:28 am
Salutations Orwell,
     The e-mail address you left in the forum does not seem to work any longer, so I tracked you to here. I am very glad to see you in this place, I know you'll bring.. well, yourself to this, and make a great contribution. You free states people don't know how lucky you are to have this guy on your side.  ;)  It may be slightly off topic, but I thought I'd leave this link  http://www.gamecamp.org/ . I have the same e-mail address, send me a letter and we can catch up. Looks like you're doing some great work.

Sincerely,
     Raistath G something soemthing, of GameCamp Squadron.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: JasonPSorens on March 13, 2003, 07:27:04 pm
Land-sakes!

Here's a scary one:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/threadid56096.php

Now, who would like to go on their forum and talk about how the Free State Project will be translating the ideas of Malcolm X into reality? ;D  I smile, but I'm more than half-serious.  I'd do it but for severe lack of time and an icky feeling from just the prospect of registering on their forum.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Elizabeth on March 14, 2003, 05:15:58 pm
Right.  I would have told them all what cowardly dickless a**holes they are, but I'll be damned if I'm going to register on a nazi website.  

Those sick, sick m-f-ers.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Zxcv on March 14, 2003, 08:58:09 pm
Yeah I looked at that thread. The good news is these folks are few and far between. It does give you a creepy feeling to read that stuff. Here's a good quote from them:
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Also, I poked around the site and eventually found a link to the FSP President's homepage, where his personal interests involved Celtic language and culture, and indication of a certain White tribalism or pride often reflected here at StormFront.
You've got fans, Jason!  :o

Seems like they want to hitch up to our efforts. Not a welcome thing, for more reasons than one (probably half those folks are federal agents). No doubt inevitable, though. Don't know what to do to stop them.

Pretty weird way to look at the world. I tried reading Turner Diaries once, thinking the mainstream press had done their usual hatchet job on alternative ideas. Nope! It was the sickest, ugliest thing I've ever read. I burned the damn thing afterward. Made me feel unclean just to think about it.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: JasonPSorens on March 15, 2003, 08:42:06 am
I actually went ahead and tried to post a message there.  It was a good message, I think, both debunking the "white tribalism" nonsense and gleefully setting forth our support for legal drugs, prostitution, and as many hardworking 3rd World immigrants as we can bring in.  But they moderate all posts from new registrants, so I'm sure it will never be posted.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Racer X on March 17, 2003, 05:39:54 pm
An FSP discussion has started on Marijuana.com (http://www.marijuana.com) .  I did not start this one.  Unfortunately, the initial post was not exactly accurate(although it was pro FSP).  The thread is getting some attention though.  Maybe we should chime in on this one(no one did on the GNN thread).  I will probably post there later tonight.  Here's the direct link to the thread:

http://cheaptalk.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?s=ea5d62e121921252afc32abe04e9a6c7&threadid=18079


Racer X

Note:  Actually, I've found that those GNN threads get bumped down really, really fast.  It's almost like a chat room.  >:(
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: exitus on March 25, 2003, 11:20:07 am
I actually went ahead and tried to post a message there.  It was a good message, I think, both debunking the "white tribalism" nonsense and gleefully setting forth our support for legal drugs, prostitution, and as many hardworking 3rd World immigrants as we can bring in.  But they moderate all posts from new registrants, so I'm sure it will never be posted.
Jason,
I joined white nationalist forum and placed a message immediately after you put that link here and it still hasn't been posted by the moderator yet, and probably never will since the moderator caddishly banned someone else who posted there yesterday.  

My opinion of them has sunk even lower than it already was, as the message of mine that was censored was actually quite respectful, even to the point of pandering to them, and they couldn't even handle that!  
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Elizabeth on March 25, 2003, 06:31:14 pm
and probably never will since the moderator caddishly banned someone else who posted there yesterday.

That was Steve, an FSP organizer who happens to be African-American as well.  They called him a "Negro" -- these people are just insane.  Really sick.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: 13 Stars on March 30, 2003, 07:58:49 pm
I actually went ahead and tried to post a message there.  It was a good message, I think, both debunking the "white tribalism" nonsense and gleefully setting forth our support for legal drugs, prostitution, and as many hardworking 3rd World immigrants as we can bring in.  But they moderate all posts from new registrants, so I'm sure it will never be posted.
Jason,
I joined white nationalist forum and placed a message immediately after you put that link here and it still hasn't been posted by the moderator yet, and probably never will since the moderator caddishly banned someone else who posted there yesterday.  

My opinion of them has sunk even lower than it already was, as the message of mine that was censored was actually quite respectful, even to the point of pandering to them, and they couldn't even handle that!  

Hi,

I'm a member of the Stormfront forum (but not a moderator).  How odd that I came across this thread.  Anyway, you should read the rules first - http://www.stormfront.org/forum/threadid4359.php - I think all your posts were moved into the "Opposing Views" forum.  If you are not a White Nationalist, then that is the only part of the forum you are allowed to post to.

Also, I'd suggest you actually read the facts behind White racialist beliefs, not just whatever crap you get from the mainstream media, ADL, and your 'sensitivity training' at work.  I do understand that some of the stuff associated with us, like the violent Turner Diaries is not very appealing.  If you want to read some better fiction about WN beliefs, try Ward Kendall's Hold Back This Day.

You'd be suprised at the number of Libertarians and former Libertarians who post and read Stormfront.  If you are interested in a debate about the validity of racism, go ahead and start one on the Opposing Views forum.  I'd suggest avoiding ad hominem tactics though.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Elizabeth on March 30, 2003, 08:48:04 pm
Please note that per our FAQ, racial agitators are not welcome in the FSP.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Racer X on April 03, 2003, 03:19:10 pm
An FSP discussion has started on www.ar15.com in the general discussion section here (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=179795).

A discussion has also started on www.ak-47.net in the general discussion section here (http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112477).

Both forums are obviously pro 2nd Amendment so they're our kind of people.  I've noticed several self declared libertarians there as well.  The threads on www.ar15.com get bumped down pretty fast so it would be great if some of you could register and post (at the very least, those of you who own guns).  Both of these forums get a lot of traffic.   There are usually about 300 people signed on whenever I check (that's why the threads get bumped down so fast).  I think you have to register to view the forums at www.ar15.com , but that's no big deal.  Forums are great free advertising and its easy.  It's probably a good idea to participate in other threads as well so you don't look like shills, but that's easy too.  Get involved people ! :)


Racer X
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: exitus on April 03, 2003, 06:07:44 pm
Ever heard of the State of Jefferson?  What a name!

Last summer at the Fresno County Fair (California), I saw several references to the State of Jefferson, such as SOJ 4-H club, SOJ Future-Farmers of America, and so forth.  Today on a local farm report on TV that I watch as part of my work, they interviewed a horseradish farmer who simply stated that he was from the "State of Jefferson".  This finally piqued my curiosity, I just had to check it out.  There is a real secessionist movement that was begun in the 1940's and lately the movement is reviving with somewhat of a small-government libertarian type of flavor.  There seem to be hundreds of followers and some serious activists and is a well-known part of the history in much of rural Northern California and Southern Oregon.

Behold Jefferson, the 51st state!  
www.jeffersonstate.com (http://www.jeffersonstate.com/)

It is tempting to waste time thinking about the prospect of this one for the FSP, 1.3 million people in the largest area considered and something more like the population of Alaska or Vermont in the most die-hard regions.  Plus nice weather, lots of natural resources, access to the coast and the place where most of the freedom-oriented people in California and Oregon live.  Well, anyways,  I wish them the best of success . . .
at any rate it is definitely a vibrant place to recruit more FSP members.  I might just go up there one of these days and visit some family on my wife's side that I have yet to meet and check it all out.

Anyways, enough introductions, the link to the message board follows here:
 http://members5.boardhost.com/jeffstate/ (http://members5.boardhost.com/jeffstate/), you don't even have to register except give your e-mail to post a message.  (There has been some discussion already about the Free State Project there.  I posted another link to here on the board today).

And please help welcome any SOJ people to the FSP!
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Elizabeth on April 04, 2003, 11:48:50 am
Slightly off topic...  :o

The problem, of course, is that it's MUCH harder to create a new state than work within an existing one.  But for those interested in the "New state" concept, see also Rob Chase's vision for another new PNW state:

http://www.columbiafreestate.org
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: exitus on April 04, 2003, 12:55:15 pm
Best wishes tomorrow in presenting the FSP to residents of the 'free state of Columbia', Elizabeth!

Meanwhile, I'll try to contact a few Libertarian leaders in the near-by proposed 'state of Jefferson'.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 04, 2003, 05:39:43 pm
Racer (and anyone else trying to get folks to post in non-FSP forums):

Now that we have a decent number of volunteers starting to sound off over on the volunteer prefs thread, what you guys might want to do is this:  Go through the thread and find folks who have listed an interest in writing, e-mailing, etc.   Especially those who also have an interest in the topics being discussed on the external forum in question.  Ask some of them individually if they would be willing to post to that external forum.  

The volunteer prefs is still there at

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=1471&start=0
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Elizabeth on April 18, 2003, 04:02:05 pm
http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=freedom;action=display;num=1027918594
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: freedomroad on April 18, 2003, 11:37:13 pm
http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=freedom;action=display;num=1027918594

Some good thoughts, maybe even new members.  Way to go Elizabeth!  However, there was some talk of signing the moral contract to join the FSP and then not really moving.  That is serious stuff.  Maybe you could tell them how important the moral contract is to a free society?  I know they are market anar. and so they should understand that a moral contract is as important is something can be, but one of them...
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Ceol Mhor on April 19, 2003, 04:36:23 pm
There was a shortish thread of the FSP over on The High Road - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3706&highlight=free+state+project

The FSP does come up in other related discussions there a fair amount, as well.
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Eric on April 27, 2003, 02:14:46 pm
I (slushweasel) have been involved in a thread on ak-47.net for a few days.

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116244 (http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116244)
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 29, 2003, 01:17:00 am
Eric:   Enjoyed your AK-47.net post, very eloquent!   I think we are no longer up for 501 (c) 3 though.  I didn't know you were a Vet, but thank you for being one!

Also here's another external discussion link:

Free Republic discussion of Tim Condon's arrest handing out FSP literature:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/901587/posts
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Eric on April 30, 2003, 05:30:00 pm
I posted a note on ak47.net regarding Tims tussle with the law in FL.  It is at http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=637ce43af3f3f9a889cf12fd1702e6c3&threadid=117037 (http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=637ce43af3f3f9a889cf12fd1702e6c3&threadid=117037)
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: JT on May 07, 2003, 05:35:10 pm
St. Louis today is having some discussion of the FSP on its forum page.  It started out as a thread about the NRA having Tim Condon arrested.
http://forums.stltoday.com/viewtopic.php?t=58842 (http://forums.stltoday.com/viewtopic.php?t=58842)
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 27, 2003, 02:34:46 am
Here's another one discussing us

 Freedom Of Speech  (http://pub134.ezboard.com/ffreedomofspeechfrm17.showMessage?topicID=78.topic)
Title: FSP discussion on Lew Rockwell blog
Post by: PongGod on June 10, 2003, 02:21:37 pm
http://blog.lewrockwell.com/

While some positive things have been said, much of it is rather negative, mainly coming from an anarchist point of view.  It seems that many there are not convinced that the idea of replacing an existing coercive state government with a less coercive state government is morally just.

To paraphrase something I read by Thomas Knapp (and agree with), the important thing is to getting the "train" moving in the right direction (from totalitarianism toward anarchy); ultimately each individual will choose to get off the train at varying stages.

Anyway, this blog has some interesting points being made, and more importantly, further spreads word of the FSP.
Title: Re:FSP discussion on Lew Rockwell blog
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 10, 2003, 02:26:51 pm
Yes, the responses of most of the posters on the blog are negative; what is more discouraging is that many of them are uninformed.  You can be an "incrementalist anarchist"; what is not compatible with the FSP strategy is support for violent revolution.  Karen De Coster is pro-FSP but her comments are very timid; I fear she is intimidated by the mob mentality that develops in these group blogs.
Title: Re:FSP discussion on Lew Rockwell blog
Post by: PongGod on June 10, 2003, 03:13:04 pm
Jason, I would encourage you to email Lew (lew@lewrockwell.com) and ask if he would post your own response to those listed by the various bloggers.  I've found that he's pretty fair about allowing all reasonable points of view to be heard.
Title: Re:FSP discussion on Lew Rockwell blog
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 10, 2003, 03:15:07 pm
Actually, Karen offered to post my response under her name, and I gave her permission to do that, pending a lack of response from the other bloggers.  (I emailed 'em all with my counterarguments.)
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 10, 2003, 06:42:17 pm
http://blog.lewrockwell.com/
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: craft_6 on July 09, 2003, 04:10:38 pm
http://www.e-thepeople.org is a political discussion site, with a pretty even mix of liberals and conservatives, and a respectable contingent of libertarians.  I have written a few polls about the FSP; here are some of the results:

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If you lived in one of the leading candidate states for the Free State Project (NH, WY, AK, MT, or ID), what would you be thinking? (45 votes)
 
Interested to see what happens 33 %
 
Unconcerned -- they will have little impact 31 %
 
Worried that needed government programs would be abolished 20 %
 
Pleased that help is on the way 16 %
 
Hopeful that they could increase liberty, but not expecting much 16 %
 
No outsiders of any political persuasion are welcome here 13%

Still active at:
http://www.e-thepeople.org/poll/10228/view?s_a=res
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The Free State Project recently reached 4,000 members. When they reach 5,000, which state should they select? (97 votes)
 
Alaska 23 %
New Hampshire 25 %
Wyoming 20 %
Montana 9 %
Idaho 12 %
South Dakota 11 %
-----------------------------------------------------------

What will be ultimate result of the Free State Project (www.freestateproject.org)? (44 votes)
 
Complete success -- creation of a free society in one of the 50 states 18 %
 
Partial success -- making the chosen state the most free in the nation 11 %
 
Failure -- 20,000 members will move, but be unable to create change 23 %
 
Fizzle -- won't be able to get 20,000 liberty activists to sign up 48 %
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The Free State Project is nearing the 5,000 member milestone, and plans to select the Free State in September. When will they reach their goal of 20,000 members? (23 votes)
 
Later this year 13 %
 
2004 13 %
 
2005 13 %
 
2006 4 %
 
2007 or later 9 %
 
Never 48 %

Still active at:
http://www.e-thepeople.org/poll/10412/view?s_a=res



Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Radar on July 10, 2003, 09:20:41 pm
http://cellar.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3620

http://www.undergroundsource.com/forum/messages.asp?topicid=8375&forumid=1

http://www.i-rave.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=3543&s=50f286b233584110161f5a69ab116887

Quote
Right.  I would have told them all what cowardly dickless a**holes they are, but I'll be damned if I'm going to register on a nazi website.  

Those sick, sick m-f-ers.


I feel the same way!  That's why I haven't registered on Bill White's craphole website to tell him what a motherf**ker he is.  He has the nerve to call himself a "Libertarian Socialist".  There is no such thing.  That's like claiming to be a giant midget, or an ancient infant.  Libertarianism and Socialism are on opposite ends of the spectrum.  You can't be further apart.  He also happens to be a KKK supporter, and a Marxist.

Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on August 10, 2003, 01:46:47 am
I posted our press release about NH governor joining us here on the Free Republic forum.  Checkitout to see what kind of response it gets.  

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/961366/posts
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on August 11, 2003, 10:20:58 pm
Here's one related to the FS and space travel

http://www.xprize.org/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=43

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on August 15, 2003, 09:54:27 pm
I posted our 5,000 member press release to Free Republic.   The FReepers usually discuss our press releases, etc.  pretty heaviily.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/965041/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on August 30, 2003, 03:27:45 pm
On a survivalist forum:

http://pub135.ezboard.com/fnorthstarpreparednessnetworkfrm5
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Elizabeth on September 01, 2003, 08:23:34 pm
More activity over at STR:

http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=freedom;action=display;num=1027918594 (http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=freedom;action=display;num=1027918594)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on September 06, 2003, 06:31:05 am
A spontaneous discussion that started this month:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/975312/posts

What is most rewarding about this one is looking at some of the earlier Free Republic threads about us and then comparing them to this new one.  Look at the way the naysayers just vanish over time.

Check out the first few posts under this thread (Nov 2002) to find links to the early FR discussions about us.  
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bIlluminati on September 09, 2003, 07:42:06 pm
I posted our 5,000 member press release to Free Republic.   The FReepers usually discuss our press releases, etc.  pretty heaviily.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/965041/posts


Dada, thanks. I signed up - 8/15/2003 11:34 pm - after reading your post. I like to think fast - this had been something I'd thought about a long time - but had never heard of you folks before.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on September 19, 2003, 02:03:56 am
Thanks for the kind words bIlluminati !

Here's another one.
http://www.boiseweekly.com/forum/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=20&Topic=529
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Mike Lorrey on September 22, 2003, 04:17:31 pm
http://www.anti-state.com

Has several threads on the FSP
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on September 22, 2003, 11:51:55 pm
This has links to most of the FSP threads on anti-state:

http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=7028;start=0

reply #2
Title: Yahoo MessageBoards Discussing FSP!
Post by: LeRuineur6 on October 01, 2003, 01:51:49 pm
Check it out here! AND JOIN IN!!!  Put in a good word! (http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=l&board=37138445&tid=apfreestateproject&sid=37138445&mid=295)
Title: Re:Yahoo MessageBoards Discussing FSP!
Post by: Karl on October 01, 2003, 02:03:39 pm
One guy derogatively calls us "granola eaters".  hahahaha.
Title: Re:Yahoo MessageBoards Discussing FSP!
Post by: Sean Coven on October 01, 2003, 02:11:37 pm
These guys are grade-A putzes, 13-year old snot-nosed weiners who think they're cool because they curse under the slide at the playground behind their school and once could nearly make out all of a woman's breast despite the heavy scrambling of the Playboy channel by their satellite provider.

Let them live under the mantle of their own self-inflicted welfare skankiness. Let them insult us from a distance; if any one of them enters my home, New Hampshire state law gives me the right to kill them. ;D
Title: Re:Yahoo MessageBoards Discussing FSP!
Post by: thewaka on October 01, 2003, 02:25:21 pm
One guy derogatively calls us "granola eaters".  hahahaha.

Really? Does he even know what a "granola eater" is? Quaker should start marketing heavily in NH in the next few years if he is right. <G>

Diana

PS -- going to check the boards out now. let them know *this* porcupine loves granola, but I wouldn't want to speak for anyone else ;)
Title: Re:Yahoo MessageBoards Discussing FSP!
Post by: Elwar on October 01, 2003, 02:26:51 pm
That Yahoo board seems like a condensed taste of much of the
ignorance that we'll be running into as the project progresses.
The key is to keep our heads and not resort to their level.

Even though the one person you might be arguing with will only
comprehend things at his level, there are many other readers
who will be turned off by such diatribe.
Title: Re:Yahoo MessageBoards Discussing FSP!
Post by: NORML54601 on October 01, 2003, 03:49:39 pm
My favorite had to be the guy who said all Libertarians are white, straight men. He must have mixed us up with the Republicans.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bmud on October 01, 2003, 09:27:17 pm
While not as political in nature, the Debate & Discussion subforum at http://forums.somethingawful.com (http://forums.somethingawful.com) discusses the FSP occasionally.
Title: Re:Yahoo MessageBoards Discussing FSP!
Post by: PongGod on October 01, 2003, 10:10:46 pm
That Yahoo board seems like a condensed taste of much of the
ignorance that we'll be running into as the project progresses.
The key is to keep our heads and not resort to their level.

Even though the one person you might be arguing with will only
comprehend things at his level, there are many other readers
who will be turned off by such diatribe.

Well, in all honestly, ALL of the Yahoo message boards are filled with asinine remarks from trolls of all flavors.  It's like some kind of release for them to spew whatever outrageous thoughts they have with the protection of their cyberspace anonymity.

But, the good news is that Yahoo, the #1 traffic site on the web, has a headline feature to this story!  This will undoubtedly result in a heavy influx of signups.  Great job, Jason and everyone else who helped pull this off!

- Robert -
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: SteveA on October 22, 2003, 02:26:41 am
*bump*

Just wanted to remind people that sometimes talking on other sites can attract new members.
Title: Foros de debate en liberalismo.org
Post by: Kelton Baker on November 09, 2003, 08:00:38 am
Foros de debate en liberalismo.org  (http://www.liberalismo.org/foros.html)

Ya hay una bitácora sobre el FSP, en el mismo sitio, pero fuera de los foros, "Los liberales quieren quedarse un Estado" (http://www.liberalismo.org/bitacoras/3/174/) ïY puedes añadir un commentario ahí sin registrar!

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: seva on November 22, 2003, 05:38:09 am
This is probably not of much interest, but for completeness I'll post it anyhow...

This is a (possibly second or third, but most recent) thread on Something Awful Forums about FSP, you have to be a paid ($10) member to post and read, but sometimes they have free read-only access to some of the boards.

New Hampshire: Libertopia? (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=795236)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on November 30, 2003, 01:29:41 am
Seva wrote:

<<

New Hampshire: Libertopia? (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=795236) >>

Good work carrying the banner for us in there seva.  And I disagree with your assertation that the thread is not of much interest, I found it a really good read.  It looks like we have a lot of defenders besides you too!  People are starting to take this seriously over there or at worst they are in "stage 2" (i.e. they've gotten past ignoring it and they are doing it the great honor of viciously attacking it).

I just wish we could get more opposition like this quote from Winson Paine:

"A lot of the hardcore guys into this are already wealthy and plan on using NH as a place where they can destroy laws protecting workers and get away with murder. Ideally they would buy up as much property in a small town to gain more or less a controlling interest in said town's economy. Then in thier own private fiefdom they can dictate how it will be run and who gets paid what.

Freedom, my ass. This is about tax shelters and greed. You actual liberterians are getting played, and all the "After college, I am there" goons will be grist for the mines."


This kind of talk, if taken seriously, will scare away socialists big time and draw in new business to the state.  Way to go Winson!
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 03, 2003, 02:57:45 am

Yahoo supreme court/gun rights discussion  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apscotusgunrights&sid=37138445&mid=44&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 06, 2003, 04:46:25 am



liberty news forum  (http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1070703842;start=0#0)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 06, 2003, 05:00:04 am

OpinionatedJerks.com  (http://www.opinionatedjerks.com/cgi-bin/politics.pl?read=17097)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 06, 2003, 02:49:45 pm

A forum in the UK  (http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=54874#54874)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 06, 2003, 02:53:09 pm
Discussion on the Louisiana student reprimanded for talking about his gay mom:

 link  (http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apgaymotherschool&sid=37138445&mid=4699)
Title: Article RE: Talking VS Doing FS Project Mentioned
Post by: demidog on December 06, 2003, 03:13:10 pm
 link  (http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_libertarian&Number=1077689#Post1077689)

---

note from moderator :  I turned the raw link in this post into a condensed link to keep it from damaging the appearance of this thread on some browsers
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 06, 2003, 03:51:14 pm


ConservativeX forum  (http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=5610)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 06, 2003, 04:21:26 pm
Annoyatorium forum

http://www.annoyatorium.com/tm.asp?m=67088
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 06, 2003, 05:05:47 pm
Botonic

http://www.bontonic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=123#123
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 06, 2003, 05:40:14 pm
Lesbian nation

http://www.lesbianation.com/my_lesbianation/forums/topic.cfm?forum=20&topic=1877

(I'm not a lesbian heh heh)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 06, 2003, 06:22:45 pm


freeconservatives.com
 forum
 (http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=256881&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Stumpy on December 06, 2003, 06:31:56 pm
Great work DO and everyone!
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 07, 2003, 12:38:30 am
Thanks Doug!


 escapees.com forum  (http://escapees.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=256606751&f=613609661&m=492604935&r=492604935#492604935)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 07, 2003, 12:43:45 am
 Boardnation "WTF" forum  (http://users.boardnation.com/~dzland/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=1648)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 07, 2003, 01:14:11 am



Centrist Coalition (registration not required to post)

 (http://www.centristcoalition.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB_14&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=131&#564)
 
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 07, 2003, 01:17:05 am


Mapleafweb  (http://www.mapleleafweb.com/community/forums/index.php?s=8ffe127014f034cc54b2793907e9df7b&act=ST&f=7&t=931)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: S Michael Moore on December 09, 2003, 10:22:44 pm
Here is one of a couple of threads at Politicscafe.com:

http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=1230
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 13, 2003, 06:52:37 pm
http://www.hk94.com/hk/index.php?showtopic=1894&st=0&#entry16622
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 13, 2003, 07:36:19 pm
Canadian pro-gun civil disobedience forum

http://www.lufa.ca/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=750
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 13, 2003, 07:53:34 pm
E-guns

http://e-gun.net/portal/mod.php?mod=forum&op=threadview&topicid=205&forumid=3#389
Title: Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Danny on December 14, 2003, 09:44:59 am
When I go to the MSN home page and put Free State Project in the search engine ... the web site listed for the FSP has a brief description that says in part  "...and eventually secede from the United States".

Here is a good example of why the FSP organization will need to bring about the existence of an internal "ruling body" of deep thinkers. This body would, in essence, be a board of selected individuals that have demonstrated an affinity for applied thinking, to manage the array of things that have the potential of taking the Project down.

They would carefully set the philosophy and guide the org through the potential minefield of problems.
This should be started now.
Title: Go talk to the Brights Movement
Post by: reason on December 15, 2003, 03:02:16 am
The Brights Movement has a new forum:

http://www.the-brights.com/forums/

Since this is a movement for people with a naturalistic worldview, and actively recruits smart individualists, I think that this should be a good recruiting ground. So go register, drop in and start a discussion about the FSP.

Reason
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 17, 2003, 11:36:46 pm
New thread at Free Republic

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1042531/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 29, 2003, 01:03:17 am
A few threads discussing the FSP/CNHT nicknames for socialist institutions & schemes:

Free Republic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1047934/posts

 Free Conservatives  (http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=267040&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

 ConservativeX  (http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=6;action=display;threadid=5821;start=0#lastPost)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: rdeacon on December 29, 2003, 05:45:06 pm
Get on Bill Maher's web site:

www.billmaher.com

He has a very active forum full of people with big political opinions.  Plus, if we can overwhelm his forum we might get a mention on his show - or perhaps even get a member to be a guest.   This is big.  I think that we should really work to target his forum.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: rdeacon on December 29, 2003, 05:46:32 pm
Hey Dada, I don't understand your comment on the freerepublic forum - NH is liberal?
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 31, 2003, 12:51:16 am
Hey Dada, I don't understand your comment on the freerepublic forum - NH is liberal?

That wasn't my comment it was Jsteff's comment.  Sometimes it's hard to tell who posted the comment because of the way FR's MB displays.

I did just post a message disagreeing with him about that, I don't think NH is liberal either.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 31, 2003, 01:56:57 am
Yahoo news thread discussing the woman ticketed in Nebraska for being nude on the net.   Hopefully in a few minutes they will be discussing us too...


link  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37172369&tid=apnakedticket&sid=37172369&mid=723&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 31, 2003, 08:32:46 pm
 Yahoo news discussion of ephedra ban  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138530&tid=apephedrasales&sid=37138530&mid=195&n=1), FSP mentioned

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 31, 2003, 09:04:03 pm
rd wrote:

<< Get on Bill Maher's web site >>

Done.  FSP thread up at  
Bill Maher's website (http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=newshow&Number=311970&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=), thanks for the idea, rd.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 01, 2004, 12:07:44 am

Another post at billmaher.com  (http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=311999&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: ScottG on January 01, 2004, 12:31:56 pm
I am a active poster over at http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/index.php (http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/index.php) and there is increased interest in this movement.  I know that there is at least four of us that will more than likely end up New Hampshire residents in the next couple of years.

Here are some threads that mentioned FSP without the links.  (I will include links from now on   8))

http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9890 (http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9890)

http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9883 (http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9883)

http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8595 (http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8595)

Keep up the good work.

Scott
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 07, 2004, 12:02:29 am
Okie here's my one-man attempt at shadow advertising:



Ohiothoritarians arrest Free Stater

 (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1052293/posts?page=7)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 07, 2004, 03:46:18 am


FreeConservatives post about Jeff Jordan's arrest  (http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=271851&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)


also

http://www.hk94.com/hk/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=2383

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 08, 2004, 12:12:17 am


ConservativeX thread about Jeff Jordan's arrest  (http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=5901)



WTF thread on Jeff Jordan  (http://users.boardnation.com/~dzland/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=1775)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 09, 2004, 11:39:01 pm
Free Republic thread regarding our shadow advertising in VT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1055135/posts



Yahoo thread on same subject  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apvermonttownsecession&sid=37138445&mid=1298&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 10, 2004, 12:31:50 pm
Old thread started by  Christopher Rasch

http://www.mail-archive.com/armchair@gmu.edu/msg03497.html
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 16, 2004, 10:41:52 pm
New FSP threads started this week on yahoo:

Yahoo group for class 3 firearms enthusiasts
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NFA_Machine_Guns/message/1557

Yahoo gun rights group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Guns-and-Rights/message/1970


yahoo allsorts gun group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/allsortsofgunsfirearms/message/732


yahoo handgun group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thehandgunner/message/240

yahoo "tax freedom now" group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tax-Freedom-Now/message/45105


yahoo "no-income-tax" group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/No-Income-Tax/message/3134

yahoo Tea Party
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teaparty/message/56198

yahoo libertarian
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/13778

Conservative Coffee House
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conservativecoffeehouse/message/2607

Forced Altruism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/forcedaltruism/message/6883

Coffeehouse 2004
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffeehouse2004/messages
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 22, 2004, 12:39:40 am
Yahoo headline news thread:

  French ban beards  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138459&tid=apfrancebanishingbeards&sid=37138459&mid=359&n=1)

(FSP discussed)


Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 22, 2004, 01:57:09 am
Confused Democrats renew attack on Free State Project

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1062700/posts
This thread is hopping.


Free Conservatives link   (http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=278897&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=)  never get much response from these folks so will probably stop posting there.

 
Conservative X  (http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=6052)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: mark on January 24, 2004, 12:53:24 am
Yahoo headline news thread:

  French ban beards  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138459&tid=apfrancebanishingbeards&sid=37138459&mid=359&n=1)

(FSP discussed)


Pure eurotrash sexism. I currently sport a mountainman look 2-inch thick beard to go along with my 2-foot-long hair.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: mark on January 24, 2004, 01:09:53 am
Confused Democrats renew attack on Free State Project

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1062700/posts
This thread is hopping.


Free Conservatives link   (http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=278897&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=)  never get much response from these folks so will probably stop posting there.

 
Conservative X  (http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=2)

Freepers suck. LoL.  ;D
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 03, 2004, 01:46:59 am
http://www.nh-inews.org/main/forum.html

May or may not get published... I realized after I finished the note that this is more of a paper than an online forum.
Title: Possible way to promote FSP
Post by: hrd2imagin on February 04, 2004, 10:18:28 am
Hey everyone,

I have a good way to promote the FSP, I'm not sure if you've done this to any extent, but members of this forum should go and promote the FSP in other web forums.

I just started a new forum at AmericanForum.net (http://www.americanforum.net/forums) and it is very Libertarian friendly, and I've linked to this site.  My site is dedicated to providing a common forum for all politcal parties, agendas and knowledge levels to meet, debate and learn about American Political Issues.  In two weeks, we have almost 200 members, and we're still growing rapidly.

If many of you would join AmericanForum.net (http://www.americanforum.net/forums), you would have a great forum to promote the FSP to Libertarians, Republicans, Democrats and Independants.

I'm not just doing this to promote my site, but because I am a Republitarian and believe in this project.  And I'm considering being a part of it.

So please visit my site and consider the opportunity presented to you there to promote the FSP.

Thanks,
Alan

AmericanForum.net (http://www.americanforum.net/forums)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: rdeacon on February 10, 2004, 09:12:49 am
Theyre not discussing the fsp just yet, but here's a good site that we can use to spread the word:

www.volconvo.com
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 20, 2004, 09:38:19 pm

rd wrote:

<< Theyre not discussing the fsp just yet, but here's a good site that we can use to spread the word:>>

Thanks rd...I'm on it:

http://www.volconvo.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=763
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 20, 2004, 09:46:57 pm
hrd wrote:

<<
If many of you would join AmericanForum.net, you would have a great forum to promote the FSP to Libertarians, Republicans, Democrats and Independants. >>

Done.  Thanks Alan:

http://americanforum.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7178#7178

http://americanforum.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7195#7195
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 20, 2004, 11:17:36 pm
poll:

http://www.volconvo.com/forums/index.php?&act=ST&f=6&t=754&mode=show&st=
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: rdeacon on February 21, 2004, 10:29:00 am
Nice threads.  The only bad thing about Volconvo is that I hate the interface.  I wish they used YaBB like this site  ;D
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 21, 2004, 10:55:17 pm
http://yourturn.npr.org/cgi-bin/WebX?11@75.yRoNa4LLfFe.1@.ee6fdc8

(above link is bad can't fix)


http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61538
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Blefuscu on February 21, 2004, 11:06:46 pm
Your links are breaking up, Dada.  I can't get them to work when I click on them, nor when I cut and paste into a new browser window.

Title: Go over to Strike-The-Root. . .
Post by: Tracy Saboe on February 21, 2004, 11:36:08 pm
Go over to Strike the root Forum

http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl

And other Market Anarchy forums and invite them to the Free State.

We need Anarchists in the Free state to make sure we don't get soft in our "gradualism."

What are some other Market Anarchy, and An-Cap forums? We should have a list.

Tracy
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 22, 2004, 12:18:38 pm


a Maryland university site  (http://pub15.ezboard.com/fpridealliancefrm5.showMessage?topicID=42.topic)

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 22, 2004, 12:34:18 pm

philosophy forum  (http://www.ephilosopher.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB_14&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=668)

(scroll down to DadaOrwell)

http://www.politicalgateway.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=24#24
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 22, 2004, 02:18:58 pm
Someone suggested posting here but i haven't done so yet:

http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: penguinsscareme on February 22, 2004, 03:18:52 pm
Hey
I just went to volconvo and signed up just so I could vote on the What do you think of the FSP? poll.  I didn't stick around, though.  The only benefit I see of getting on those sites is to make people aware of us.  But most of them have already made up their mind one way or the other about the project and they aren't going to be changed.  I didn't post, but I read enough of the thread to come to this conclusion after about 45 seconds.

When I went to boot camp many years ago, they taught us to use firearms.  Some of my shipmates had never even seen a real gun before.  I had grown up with them since the age of ten.  When we first went to the ranges, I was a way better shot than everyone else.  But by the end of boot camp, the best marksmen in the company were the same kids who'd had no experience coming in.  It's a pattern the instructors had seen a thousand times before.

Why does this happen?  Because THE POLITICALLY LITERATE, WHETHER RIGHT OR WRONG, ARE often NOT TEACHABLE.  The advantage of being ignorant, however, is that you are probably more open to suggestion than if you think you've got it all figured out.

Anyway, I'm pursuing other avenues of publicization for this reason.  I don't want to get into philosophical discussions, I want to get results!

If anyone wants to know just what I'm up to, look for my name amid the threads and posts elsewhere on the boards.

Andrew
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: rdeacon on February 23, 2004, 05:18:05 pm
Agreed, it's much tougher to convince other politically literate people to change their opinions.  The purpose of attacking forums like volconvo is that we get the message out and we present a strong front.  When volconvo members go back to their real-life friends and talk about their volconvo experience, they won't be talking about "one radical libertarian lunatic", they'll be saying "yeah, there are quite a few libertarians there".  If we keep up a presence in many different forums, eventually we'll start to see cross-verification of these statements.  Once groups of people cross-verify that libertarian-leaning memberships are not exclusive to volconvo, they'll take another look at liberty, at least to a small extent.

So we're not converting people, but rather setting the stage for a credibility enchancement.  When all the online polls start to bias toward libertarianism, the political landscape will change, especially when these polls are orchestrated by media sources.  It's not a silver bullet, but it'll be another nail in statisms coffin when combined with similar liberty-minded media coverage.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 23, 2004, 06:44:34 pm


Yahoo thread about the National Education Assasination.  

 (http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=appaigeteachersunion&sid=37138469&mid=98)

Cabinet member called them "terrorists." FSP mentioned.

There have been 600 posts to this thread in the last hour!  


related post in same thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=appaigeteachersunion&sid=37138469&mid=1290&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: penguinsscareme on February 23, 2004, 07:03:42 pm
So we're not converting people, but rather setting the stage for a credibility enchancement.

Ah, I understand.  Well, I hope that works out for you.  I think it's a good idea, I just don't have the skills or knowledge to represent the cause adequately in a debate with hardcore opposition.
I've found a way to be an activist, though.  So I guess I'll go work on that.

Andrew
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 23, 2004, 10:37:09 pm
http://thewarongw.proboards7.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1077591398

http://thewarongw.proboards7.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1077591292

http://gigo-soapbox.org/soapbox/2004/index.html
(this last one I submitted something to but it will have to be approved)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: rdeacon on February 24, 2004, 09:09:05 am
No skills required, actually.  All you really need to do is think up a liberty-oriented signature file and write "i agree with that guy" every so often.   ;D

So we're not converting people, but rather setting the stage for a credibility enchancement.

Ah, I understand.  Well, I hope that works out for you.  I think it's a good idea, I just don't have the skills or knowledge to represent the cause adequately in a debate with hardcore opposition.
I've found a way to be an activist, though.  So I guess I'll go work on that.

Andrew
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: penguinsscareme on February 24, 2004, 09:19:11 am
Yeah, what he said!
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: rdeacon on February 24, 2004, 04:06:43 pm
The libertarian presidential candidates in 2000 often joked about that.  One of the guys was like "that's the problem with our party's debates, after the first candidate answers a question it's usually followed by a bunch of 'what he said's".
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 26, 2004, 12:28:57 am


yahoo thread on socialist security  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138456&tid=apgreenspanbudget&sid=37138456&mid=14576&n=1)


  yahoo thread on Columbine  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apcolumbineinvestigation&sid=37138445&mid=48&n=1)


different post in columbine thread   (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apcolumbineinvestigation&sid=37138445&mid=50&n=1)

Free Republic thread on assault weps ban:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1085061/posts?page=27
(scroll down to dadaorwell)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 27, 2004, 08:36:54 pm
FSP mentioned in these threads too:


yahoo thread on gay marriage  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apgaymarriage&sid=37138445&mid=99516&n=1)


Free Republic thread on NH gun freedom:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1087103/posts


Privatize Public schools  -yahoo   (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37447170&tid=usatodayhighschoolsskipoverbasicsinrushtocollegeclasses&sid=37447170&mid=101&n=1)


  Accutane restricted  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138530&tid=apaccutanepregnancy&sid=37138530&mid=93&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 28, 2004, 09:07:47 pm
FSP discussed in these threads:



eminent domain abuse

 (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37447170&tid=usatodaycurtailforprofitlandgrabs&sid=37447170&mid=15&n=1)



Killington secession
 (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apkillingtonsecession&sid=37138445&mid=1042&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 04, 2004, 02:14:42 am
Posted to FreeRepublic.com:

VT town votes for secession to NH, Free Staters celebrate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1090379/posts

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 04, 2004, 02:25:37 am
Another killington thread

http://www.volconvo.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=888
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 04, 2004, 08:53:41 pm
Thanks to andre the giant for posting this:

http://americanforum.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=840


also here's an active usenet thread:


alaska and the FSP  (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=290220042033398502%25cina%40cinaminx.com&rnum=53&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfree%2Bstate%2Bproject%26start%3D50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D290220042033398502%2525cina%2540cinaminx.com%26rnum%3D53)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: SteveA on March 15, 2004, 04:38:21 am
I posted about the FSP on this site.  Feel free to add on.  There's no registration required to post.

http://www.libertarian.org.au/blog/forum.jsp (http://www.libertarian.org.au/blog/forum.jsp)

Here's a link to the specific thread:

http://www.libertarian.org.au/blog/readArticle.jsp?articleID=554296 (http://www.libertarian.org.au/blog/readArticle.jsp?articleID=554296)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 20, 2004, 04:46:49 pm

yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=apbushflorida&sid=37138469&mid=2966&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 26, 2004, 06:14:58 pm
RLC endorses FSP

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1105854/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 02, 2004, 05:54:36 pm
Here's a good forum to post on.  I've been doing a lot of this kind of thing...who else wants to pitch in and...make the pitch?


politically independent forum

 (http://www.politicallyindependent.com/index.php?sid=240c5dd0598f2688f861091c414a3af0)


And here's another thread going on sort of about us:


Clair wolfe's site
 (http://www.thementalmilitia.org/clairefiles/index.php?s=4444316bb89df387b3c75b83149368fc&act=ST&f=4&t=963&st=0#entry13261)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 02, 2004, 08:09:49 pm
Here's a whole forum category dedicated to discussing us:


link  (http://www.thementalmilitia.org/clairefiles/index.php?s=4444316bb89df387b3c75b83149368fc&act=SF&f=6)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dave Mincin on April 02, 2004, 08:35:11 pm
Hey Dada,

Thinking your idea about us spreading the word is a great one.  Any way you could get me a list of all the forums you have posted and then we can make sure that we have folks involved in all of them.

No disrespect intended, but thinking we need to make sure that each of them is seeing our people.  Just posting them gives us no idea if anyone is actually posting our story on them.

Thanks much,
Dave

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 02, 2004, 08:57:17 pm
David this thread pretty much is the list, just scroll up.  

Or would you like me to condense it for you into a single page?
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 02, 2004, 09:05:52 pm
http://www.politicallyindependent.com/thread.php?threadid=2071&sid=


yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37172369&tid=aptaxdatamining&sid=37172369&mid=98&n=1)



A forum in New Hampshire:
http://www.virtualtourist.com/f/p/e352/?r=811aa

Adoption forum in NH:
http://forums.adoption.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=142410
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 03, 2004, 10:21:34 pm
http://www.babyzone.com/community/messageboards.asp?board=449
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Randall Danger on April 19, 2004, 03:16:33 pm
asshat in this thread keeps attacking the FSP:

http://www.pker.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3035&PN=1&TPN=6

someone needs to explain us to him better than I can....
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 19, 2004, 10:56:13 pm
Free Staters attain majority on NH Governor's panel

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1120823/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 30, 2004, 05:50:35 pm
Police seize Free Stater


Bill Maher.com (http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=current_events&Number=413054&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 30, 2004, 05:57:07 pm

Police seize Free Stater


ConservativeX  (http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=7033)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 30, 2004, 06:00:52 pm
http://www.hk94.com/hk/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=5268
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 02, 2004, 09:47:42 am


Gaming forum

 (http://www.freeallegiance.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=62636#62636)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: AnonCastillo on May 05, 2004, 05:39:31 am
Webcomic forum (http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=58000)

I kinda got into the discussion late, but let Justin and I know how we're doing. :)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: lloydbob1 on May 05, 2004, 07:08:34 am
asshat in this thread keeps attacking the FSP:

http://www.pker.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3035&PN=1&TPN=6

someone needs to explain us to him better than I can....

That is not a very bright group there, Ghostcow. I don't think they are worth the effort.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: AnonCastillo on May 05, 2004, 08:18:37 am
There are a couple of somewhat intelligent people on that board, a few of whom even liked the idea of the FSP. They're not quite as advanced as Penny Arcade's board (their members give free economics lessons). 8 Bit Theater's board isn't too bad, either. The webcomic crowd seems to be a little higher up the scale than the average gamer, but maybe that's just my perception.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: lloydbob1 on May 05, 2004, 05:55:36 pm
There are a couple of somewhat intelligent people on that board, a few of whom even liked the idea of the FSP. They're not quite as advanced as Penny Arcade's board (their members give free economics lessons). 8 Bit Theater's board isn't too bad, either. The webcomic crowd seems to be a little higher up the scale than the average gamer, but maybe that's just my perception.

I scanned , only, the one page.  I was refering to the one's that equate minding one's own business with Isolationism and the absurd idea of the Nazis taking and occupying Europe.
Ghostcow was explaining things just fine.  Many of those people clearly, have their own agendas and will not listen to reason.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 06, 2004, 08:14:59 pm
I dont get too deep into it with naysayers on other forums.  I just tell them if they don't like our ideas don't move to New Hampshire.

They still have 49 slave states to pick from.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 09, 2004, 12:22:09 pm
Free Stater Seized by Police

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74034
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: alanrweiss on May 11, 2004, 09:04:44 pm
Free Stater Seized by Police

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74034


How disappointing in the Manchester Police Department.  When the FSP comes to town, those LEO's are the first ones we fire - along with their bosses, as far up the ladder as we have to in order to get a police department that respects our Bill of Rights.  I sure hope Porcupine Pelltier sues them bigtime.


I had my own incident with the Londonderry Police Department when I visited, but I was extremely polite and disarming with my common sense and sense of humor.   They were Friends of the RKBA (the officers), so they gave me friendly advice:  southern New Hampshire is filled with paranoid Taxachussetts idiots who call the cops when they spot a legally-carried gun.  They politely asked me if I wouldn't mind toning it down a bit.

Because I was a guest in their burgh, I agreed to comply.

But I never stopped carrying.  BTW, I have a Texas CHL and am extremely well-trained.

Alan
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 11, 2004, 09:48:14 pm



Yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=apdieselpollution&sid=37138469&mid=22&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bookish_lass on May 13, 2004, 06:23:45 am
Started a thread on the Media Awareness Project's forum:

http://drugpolicycentral.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2128#2128
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 14, 2004, 06:08:58 pm


yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=apjobtraininggrants&sid=37138469&mid=160&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 16, 2004, 01:27:53 pm

yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138446&tid=appeoplegenesimmons&sid=37138446&mid=372&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 16, 2004, 10:22:00 pm

Free Stater arrested
 (http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=gun_rights;action=display;num=1084763892;start=0#0)



yahoo hong kong thread   (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138459&tid=aphongkongchinaus&sid=37138459&mid=493&n=1)



Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 17, 2004, 12:55:01 am
I'm not going to code these but am instead breaking them up because I'm lazy.  You'll have to paste them together yourself.

all latest yahoo threads: http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&
board=37138469&tid=apbushclout&sid=37138469&mid=594236&n=1


http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&bo
ard=37138445&tid=apgaymarriage&sid=37138445&mid=226367&n=1

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board
=37138469&tid=apkerry&sid=37138469&mid=167222&n=1

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board
=37138469&tid=apbushclout&sid=37138469&mid=594236&n=1

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37
138469&tid=apgermanyus&sid=37138469&mid=534&n=1

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board
=37138469&tid=aplibertarianconvention&sid=37138469&mid=20562&n=1

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: JasonPSorens on May 17, 2004, 09:29:30 am
Dada, you're a machine! :D
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 19, 2004, 12:22:50 am
Good Lord steve talk about throwing stones from a glass house...you just trashed the view of this page for most Netscape users.

Please delete your "fixes" of my links; there is a reason why I split them in two.   Left intact they screw up the view for netscapers.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Steve on May 19, 2004, 03:05:09 am
Well dang, how is one supposed to know wich of the 28 YABB SE (wasn't that an Open Source project?) tags work or don't work with this or that browser? ??? I use them all the time.  How about smilies--are they okay?  Anyway, don't take offense, I was just jiving you.  Speaking of which, I wonder if there are any new Flame Warriors?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 20, 2004, 10:41:18 pm
No sweat steve...always better to be attacked than ignored when it comes to PR.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 20, 2004, 11:24:25 pm
Man walks from KY to NH for Freedom

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1139551/posts


link  (http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=7200)

 link  (http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/341134/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1)


 (http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=current_events&Number=431905&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

 link  (http://www.volconvo.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=1661)



bill maher  (http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=current_events&Number=431905&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: AnonCastillo on May 21, 2004, 05:23:54 am
http://www.pslounge.bfgservers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=834
Gaming forum called "Potsmokers' Lounge." Two people implied they'd join, with mostly positive responses, but half the posts in the thread are from someone who, while posting on a forum for pot smokers, and having admitted to smoking marijuana for 9 years, thinks legalization is a bad idea. *bangs head*
But, hey, if we get a signup out of it, it's worth the time it took to post.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: libertyovertyranny on May 21, 2004, 01:53:59 pm
I'm going to go to the Bill Maher forum and pretend I just heard about the Free State Project and how good of an idea it is, so that GhostCow's walk will be moved to the top of the list and with the hope that the enthusiasm will build.  On that forum, my name will be monn0016.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 27, 2004, 02:05:15 am

Christian Exodus thread on Bill Maher  (http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=437262&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)


link   (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1141617/posts)
Title: SLASHDOT: GAME THE SYSTEM
Post by: Denis Goddard on May 27, 2004, 05:04:39 pm
I just made a post on Slashdot, the purpose of which was basically to make a big, bold link to freestateproject.org. I typically do this whenever there's a vaguely freedom-related discussion thread (as there often is on Slashdot):

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=109082&cid=9267731

The comment got moderated to "+5, Interesting", (hooray for me!) which means that it will be read by literally TENS of THOUSANDS of people today.

Now, here's where you other porcs come in: posts on Slashdot are moderated by other Slashdot readers. The more you read & post on Slashdot, the more likely you'll be given "moderator points" to assign to other people's posts.

SO, the idea, very simply, is to game the system. Any time I have moderator points to assign, my Yahoo! IM status will be set to:
  Porcs: I have Slashdot Moderator points!!
My Yahoo ID is: laugh_at_the_stars

SO... please add my Yahoo handle above to your 'friend' list. If you see my status message as above, post a link to the FSP webpage, and I'll mod it up. Try and make it a vaguely on-topic post please.

I'll be doing the same. Let's give this a try.

Who's with me?
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 27, 2004, 07:23:21 pm
<<Who's with me?>>

I'm trying to start an account there in response to your suggestion, haven't gotten my pw yet.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dave Mincin on May 27, 2004, 07:47:36 pm
I'm in as marshrobert1...no pw either!
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bookish_lass on May 27, 2004, 07:54:28 pm
Dada, I didn't get sent a password either when I created an account, but if you ask to have your pass mailed to you, that works.
Title: Re:SLASHDOT: GAME THE SYSTEM
Post by: "Hagrid" on May 27, 2004, 07:57:27 pm
I just made a post on Slashdot, the purpose of which was basically to make a big, bold link to freestateproject.org. (snip)
The comment got moderated to "+5, Interesting", (hooray for me!) which means that it will be read by literally TENS of THOUSANDS of people today.
(snip)
SO, the idea, very simply, is to game the system.
(snip)
Who's with me?

Worth a try, but those of us with good karma are less likely to help, since gaming the system will usually result in worse karma, since you end up overmoderatoring... (the metamods is where the gaming is fixed)

But I've got 5 mod points waiting for someone to mention the FSP.
Just message me here and let me know... (grin)



Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dave Mincin on May 27, 2004, 08:06:15 pm
Will do Seth...I'm already on the guy from Texas who says no one will every move! ;D  Just need a password!
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bookish_lass on May 27, 2004, 08:09:58 pm
Slashdot has a place where they'll accept press releases for possible publication, so I sent them Randall's PR :)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: "Hagrid" on May 27, 2004, 09:50:23 pm
Will do Seth...I'm already on the guy from Texas who says no one will every move! ;D  Just need a password!

Can I suggest that you avoid responding to the Slashdot Trolls?
It's a waste of time.

I'm all for taking every single issue related to freedom and posting a message similar to "This is why I've joined the FSP and I'm moving to New Hampshire.... because this is wrong, and we're doing something about it...." along those lines.

Messages like that, moderated up to Interesting and Informative will likely be considered valid moderation, and accrue better karma...
And Karma means you are heard better in the first place.

Avoid responding to an article after the first hour it's out  It's a waste of time, since you've already missed thousands of readers.  Better to wait for the next freedom related article.  These days, there are about 2 or 3  a day, without stretching the point of raising the FSP idea completely in context.

Added: to prove the point, look at all these stories someone could have FSP-related from just the last 30 stories on Slashdot:
     
The Good and Bad of Data Collection
On May 27th, 2004 with 111 comments
Nephilium writes "Reason magazine has dedicated their latest issue to a discussion of privacy and data collection. They sent subscribers a customized cover of...
Section: Articles > Privacy , Hardware , Data Storage , News

Reason Magazine is very libertarian-centered.  FSP is easy to relate to this.

Will Providers Provide Equally?
On May 27th, 2004 with 195 comments
theodp writes "Imagine the chaos if your power company could take money from Sony so that its appliances got a higher quality of juice - and thus worked a tad...
Section: Articles > The Internet , Technology/IT

Talk about government corruption and buying power issues, stress FSP reducing government, getting out of the way of the free market.

Italy Approves Jail for P2P Users
On May 27th, 2004 with 461 comments
funkdid writes "Italy has made transferring content via the Internet without the permission of the copyright holder a criminal offence.Those found guilty of...
Section: Your Rights Online > The Courts , News

Too easy...

Teaching History In Schools With Video Games
On May 27th, 2004 with 331 comments
Joe writes "There's a story about a Massachusetts company, Muzzy Lane Software, creating a Civ-style simulation computer game to teach history to high school...
Section: Games > Education , Games , Entertainment , News

Let's get out of the way of education, by getting government out of the business of schooling.

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Denis Goddard on May 28, 2004, 11:39:47 am
I'm really excited about the momentum here!!
Slashdot is an easy way for us to reach TENS OF THOUSANDS of people -- and what's more, Slashdot readers tend to be Libertarian-leaning.

For this "gaming the system" to really work well -- to get our Freestateproject.org links moderated UP to +5 where thousands of people will see them -- we need to be able to move FAST.

I've already added bookish_lass to my Yahoo IM (thanks!) Any Porc on Slashdot can add me as a Yahoo friend -- please do! "laugh_at_the_stars@yahoo.com" As soon as ANY of us get moderator points, we'll see each other's status change and can mod each other up. Any questions or problems getting accounts set up or using Slashdot or Yahoo, I'm happy to try and help. Just email me, I'll do my best to help.

There is going to be more traffic and need for quick action than then FSP message boards are really designed for -- this is a natural for Instant Messaging.

Lastly: Dada Orwell's point is well-made. There's a Freedom-relevant story on slashdot at least once a day. This is very fertile soil we are working!!

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 28, 2004, 08:43:19 pm
<<Dada, I didn't get sent a password either when I created an account, but if you ask to have your pass mailed to you, that works.>>

What email address do I write to requesting a pw?
Title: Simple Slashdot Tips To Get Our Message Seen!
Post by: Denis Goddard on May 29, 2004, 11:38:38 am
To get your password mailed to you, go to:
http://slashdot.org/login.pl?op=mailpasswdform (http://slashdot.org/login.pl?op=mailpasswdform)

... and remember that we all need to be on each others' "friend" lists on IM. Again, the idea is:

* If you see an even remotely freedom-related topic (and you will!), quickly post a few words and a link to freestateproject.org

* After you post, check IM to see if any other Porcs' statuses indicate that they have moderator points. If they do, message them and let them know you just posted a link to the FSP webpage

* If Slashdot's webpage says "you have moderator points", set your IM status to something like 'I have Slashdot Moderator points!'. Note that this is a semi-random event.

* Slashdot won't let you moderate a discussion in which you have posted. So, when you get your 5 moderator points, DON'T post -- just moderate UP other Porcs' posts. That's why you set your IM status, so others know to message you to moderate up their posts.

Get it?
 ;)

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bookish_lass on May 29, 2004, 03:48:14 pm
OK, got one reply up:

Circuit Boards + Soldering Iron == Terrorist? (http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=109267&threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=103&tid=123&tid=99&mode=thread&pid=9285754#9286084)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Denis Goddard on May 29, 2004, 05:32:20 pm
Awesome!!
You got people poting back and forth on a side thread, talking about the FSP. Truly, truly a Good Thing (tm)

If only that post had been moderated UP, more people would have seen it, and more would have joined in. That's where "gaming the system" comes in. The more of us Porcs who work this, the more likely one of us will have some Moderator points to use to get posts like yours visible to the masses.

So far I have: sethcohn and bookish_lass.
Any one of the three of us get moderator points, the others will get the benefit.

Come on, y'all: join in!
:)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: "Hagrid" on May 29, 2004, 06:15:09 pm
Awesome!!
You got people poting back and forth on a side thread, talking about the FSP. Truly, truly a Good Thing (tm)

Only if people's questions are answered... Someone wrote:
Quote
Reading further it says the vote was taken in August and September of 2003, which was almost a year ago; to have only gotten another 777 members in 9 months doesn't sound like anybody is going to be moving soon.
We need to address this better:  After the vote, lots of people were removed due to opt-out, and we've added many more than 777, so we need to make that clear.  Can someone make this happen?


Quote
If only that post had been moderated UP, more people would have seen it, and more would have joined in.

I modded it up... but we need more people...
Title: Easy way to help!
Post by: bookish_lass on May 29, 2004, 06:55:49 pm
Hey guys, we need more people to help spread the word among slashdot users.  What to do:

set up an account at http://slashdot.org/ if you don't already have one.

Join our yahoo messenger network, add:
laugh_at_the_stars
sethcohn

bookish_lass

Post messages on slashdot (or do other things I don't understand but these other gents can explain) to get moderator points

When someone gets moderator points, they should change their status on yahoo messenger to "I have moderator points".  The rest of us will find a likely thread, post a hopefully related response about the FSP.  The person with the moderator points can then bump it up in importance so that many people will read it.

That's my sketchy understanding of it.  If there's more to it, I hope one of the more geeky among us will explain or correct me.

Re:  the thread I started on slashdot earlier, I answered the guys questions about onle getting 777 new members.  Wow, that got quite a few responses.  Great idea, guys!  This is working to get the word out.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Victor VI on May 29, 2004, 09:27:16 pm
Ok, I'll play along too. I post on Slashdot as Amiga Trombone. I haven't posted there in a while, but I used to have mod points almost constantly.

I don't use IM very often, but I'll keep you folks on my Slashdot Friends list, and if I notice you've posted anything, I'll give it a bump up.

I've had the FSP web site in my sig for quite some time. But I don't know how effective it's been directing people over here.
Title: Re:Simple Slashdot Tips To Get Our Message Seen!
Post by: RidleyReport on May 30, 2004, 03:05:28 pm
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=19887
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bookish_lass on May 30, 2004, 03:58:42 pm
Hey, got another thread going on slashdot:

NEC admits to ripping off schools (http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=109351&threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=103&mode=thread&cid=9291470)

Here was my reply:

I agree with the poster who questioned how the local government would be much superior to federal.  Any time you ask government to solve a problem that the free market can solve itself, you will find the problem solved inefficiently and often with corruption such as this article points out.  The reason is, an individual will be cautious with his own money and investments.  Government, which takes its wealth by force, is like a rich son who, not having to work for his money, squanders it thoughtlessly.

The Free State Project (http://www.freestateproject.org) proposes to take education out of the hands of government, precisely because it too important to be left to that rich philandering son, the state.  Already we have in place private means to fund schools in New Hampshire.  The Liberty Scholarship Fund (http://www.lsfund.org/) has been set up as a first step to providing privately funded alternatives to the public schools.

It's time to trim back government to its properly constitutional bounds.  It's time to take back our schools.  It's time to vote with our feet.

Live free or die!  New Hampshire!

Kat Dillon
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 01, 2004, 08:40:03 pm

KY man walks to NH (protestwarrior.com)
 (http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=7727467#7727467)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 20, 2004, 10:45:46 am
http://xprize.org/messageboard/viewtopic.php?p=4022#4022
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 20, 2004, 11:09:57 am
List of NH-centric web forums

http://www.nhstonewalldems.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
   - Gay site that has removed every message I've posted there talking up sexual freedoms.   Go figure that one out!


politicscafe NH news thread  (http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=261&start=100)

www.nhliberty.org


NH authoritarian Democrat msg. board
 (http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/tracker?from=10)

WMUR's forums, channel 9:
http://forums.ibsys.com/viewmessages.cfm?sitekey=man&forum=427&topic=10413&startmsg=31


Hookset NH and Auburn NH have msg boards for those of you who live around there:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hooksett_chat/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/auburn/

www.bedfordblog.com

http://salemnhforum.org/index.php  - almost 500 registered participants!

http://neforum.org/


Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 21, 2004, 11:12:48 am
Thanks for the links, Dada!
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 22, 2004, 06:03:48 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1157162/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Michael Edelstein on June 22, 2004, 11:33:54 am

I agree with the poster who questioned how the local government would be much superior to federal.  Kat Dillon

Richard Epstein stated (in a debate with Walter Block): "local govts are as oppressive as federal and state govts, if not more so." He goes on to cite some instances. (I heard it at: www.mises.org/Media/MediaContributor.asp#top)

Best, Michael
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 23, 2004, 03:07:58 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1158725/posts?page=1



yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=apbush&sid=37138469&mid=511069&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 23, 2004, 04:43:15 pm
 link  (http://www.volconvo.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2134)

 link
 (http://freeconservatives.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/354893/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1)


link  (http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1088023793;start=0#0)

http://www.nhstonewalldems.org/wwwboard/messages/2220.html

http://www.nhstonewalldems.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.html

The two above have been deleting my posts there which ask them if they are for sexual freedom or not.  You'd think since they are a gay site they would be into that but apparently they aren't into freedom of any kind.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 23, 2004, 04:56:22 pm
I've just submitted the story to the editors at Slashdot. Let's see if they put it through to the site. You can try submitting the story at well, just go to http://slashdot.org/submit.pl (http://slashdot.org/submit.pl)

Thanks for the motivation, Dada!
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: SteveA on June 23, 2004, 08:01:43 pm
Thanks for all the links Dada :)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 24, 2004, 11:38:32 pm

yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138446&tid=apfilmfahrenheit911&sid=37138446&mid=6180&n=1)


yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138446&tid=apfilmfahrenheit911&sid=37138446&mid=7157&n=1)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1159607/posts


yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138456&tid=apgeoffreytaxloophole&sid=37138456&mid=58&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 28, 2004, 01:35:26 am

DFNH  (http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/175#comment-294)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on July 02, 2004, 02:45:29 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1164497/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on July 03, 2004, 06:51:53 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=
37138445&tid=apworkplaceshooting&sid=37138445&mid=5842&n=1
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on July 08, 2004, 06:44:25 pm
 link  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=aptimbersalvage&sid=37138445&mid=129&n=1)

http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=7882354#7882354
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RhythmStar on July 10, 2004, 01:32:53 pm
OK, here's a link to a thread on a musician's BBS I frequent.  Lots of political debate between various factions, but there is a definite opportunity to win over some musicians who are sick to death of both Republican and Democratic parties. One has to register a free EZBoard user account to access the BBS:

LINK (http://p212.ezboard.com/fartistareabulletinboardfrm56.showMessage?topicID=6365.topic)

Musician Porcs would be a welcome sight. :)

RS

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on July 19, 2004, 09:46:28 am


link  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apsextoysarrest&sid=37138445&mid=3587&n=1-)

If you want to live in freedom and run your business as you see fit with the least intervention, the place to be is New Hampshire.

In a place like TX you just dont have freedom from the Impure Thoughts Police.

Details at:
www.FreeStateProject.org
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: SteveA on August 08, 2004, 10:42:35 pm
Here's a site fighting against property taxes here in CA.  I posted on the forum about the FSP.  (The site looks slow though)

http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?&user=joemustgo (http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?&user=joemustgo)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: SteveA on August 09, 2004, 02:48:09 pm
Here's an old gaming site I used to hang out on.  It's very active and so I put up a post:

Fappin.com (http://www.fappin.com/board/thread.asp?BoardID=2&ThreadID=8647&PageNr=last#lastpost)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bookish_lass on August 10, 2004, 11:36:51 am
Liberty Forum Thread on the FSP (http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_links&Number=292849677&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&part=1&vc=1)

Nice board!
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on August 14, 2004, 06:03:44 am
 yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37447040&tid=apcandybararrest&sid=37447040&mid=1259&n=1)
 yahoo thread  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37447040&tid=apcandybararrest&sid=37447040&mid=1117&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on September 03, 2004, 10:10:55 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1206103/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1206118/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on September 05, 2004, 12:48:33 pm
Someone who has access to the statistics on "how members found the FSP" tells me that a lot of them found us through web forums like the ones above .   So this may be an effective technique. Will tell you more whan I find out more.

Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bookish_lass on September 07, 2004, 08:30:31 am
Yahoo news story I posted a comment to:


More PE Time May Fight Obesity in Girls (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040907/ap_on_he_me/fit_girls_exercise_4)

Comment (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138530&tid=apfitgirlsexercise&sid=37138530&mid=508&n=1)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on September 17, 2004, 01:42:03 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1217455/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: mark on September 18, 2004, 09:22:13 pm
fucking cocksucking wonderbar! the kids got pigfucking guns!


but can they swear like pirates without future supervision by social workers?
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on September 27, 2004, 11:43:35 pm
Dada Bin Bizeee LOL

http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=895;start=70#lastPost
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=8160138#8160138
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=8160120#8160120
  link  (http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=561672&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CO-Teens/post
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/denverteens/message/391
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoulderRocknMoms/messages
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/monadnockregionnh/message/134
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newhampshirelesbiens/message/58
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhradioscanners/message/60
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ESCORT-SERVICE/message/460
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhgaynet/message/59
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NNEG/message/786
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Honda-Express/message/39
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BorninNewEngland/message/283
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewHampshirehomeschool/message/159
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SouthernNHPagans/message/7694
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: DustinD on September 28, 2004, 07:51:02 pm
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=1263908#post1263908 Is discussing it, it is mainly a NH vs WY debate. With some potential members skeptical about our chances for success.
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on September 30, 2004, 06:54:23 pm
 link  (http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=562141&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=1)
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=261;start=150
http://badnarik.org/supporters/blog/2004/09/30/debate-badnarik-alert-93004-these-are-exciting-times-for-libertarians/
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Friday on November 06, 2004, 11:42:47 am
I started a thread on the Quotable Heinlein discussion forum:
http://www.quotableheinlein.com/dcforum/DCForumID21/152.html

(The title of the thread was supposed to be "Real World Free Luna", but somehow the Free Luna part got cut.  :-\)
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: maffew on November 12, 2004, 10:19:20 am
http://www.focaljet.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB26&Number=2416469849
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on November 14, 2004, 11:47:29 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1280095/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 02, 2004, 07:27:03 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1293145/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 02, 2004, 07:57:44 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1293173/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 05, 2004, 11:18:06 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1294338/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 10, 2004, 09:21:18 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1298996/posts
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 20, 2004, 12:08:02 pm
Discussion of Joel's arrest:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1305185/posts

Discussion of UN Flag Burning in NH...(these guys are pretty excited about that!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1304315/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
Title: Re:Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 08, 2005, 03:30:02 am
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=current_events&Number=670223&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=1&PHPSESSID=
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 26, 2005, 07:06:32 pm
In the future I'll be posting forum links to

http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=112.0

Thats where the action is!
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: cgsmbrazil on January 26, 2005, 07:16:11 pm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hope4America/message/37876

Claudia
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: cgsmbrazil on January 26, 2005, 07:26:13 pm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CJLA/message/5809


Claudia
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: cgsmbrazil on January 26, 2005, 07:28:26 pm
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Philalesbians/message/1521

Claudia
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: cgsmbrazil on January 26, 2005, 07:31:07 pm
Dear all,


I'm posting the message  about FSP at (totally) different groups and  going to make a follow up this coming week.

Claudia


P.S. Still waiting for two posts to be confirmed.


Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: cgsmbrazil on January 26, 2005, 07:34:04 pm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conservative-chat/message/18817


Claudia
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 28, 2005, 07:49:30 pm
Claudia you are such a treasure! !   Can't tell you how much it means to me to have you picking up this ball and running with it.    Now I'm going to go read all your posts if I can get to them!
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 28, 2005, 07:56:04 pm
I wasn't able to see the messages I clicked on, I guess you have to be a member.   I have also posted to some yahoo groups in the past but then decided to concentrate on web forums because I got more responses there.   The yahoo groups I did post on tended to be ones that are over 50 members, below that was not worth the effort.

I always figured if I got at least two responses within the first two days it was a worthwhile place to post, if not then I would tend to stop posting there.   

Another cool trick is to just visit yahoo.com and look at all their latest news stories.  If you click on a story that has to do with liberty or government spending , yahoo lets you weigh in on their public forum using your exiting yahoo login.    I write in and say something radically libertarian, invite people who agree with me to move to NH then post the FSP URL heh heh.     It doesn't get a ton of response but its very quick to do.
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 19, 2005, 10:24:53 pm
OK I think I will resume posting my threads here rather than just on NHunderground.com    I will post FSP threads here and undergound related threads there.  Here's a recent FSP thread

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=washposta363112005feb18&sid=37138445&mid=264&n=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 20, 2005, 01:39:33 am

reaching out to british fox hunters

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138459&tid=apbritainhunting&sid=37138459&mid=1164&n=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 25, 2005, 12:53:52 pm
attacking busybody interest group lobbying FDA

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=nmhealthsaltdc&sid=37138445&mid=918&n=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: bookish_lass on February 25, 2005, 01:38:29 pm
Good one Dave!  Don't these dodos realize that you must have salt to live?  It'd be like regulating the government your water intake.  I couldn't believe it when I read that article this morning.
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dave Mincin on February 25, 2005, 02:34:08 pm
Sweet jesus!  Next thing you know they will be wanting to regulate my beer intake!  ::)

Pat K......are you with me? ;D
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Pat K on February 25, 2005, 04:48:19 pm
 Bet they can't. ;D
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dave Mincin on February 25, 2005, 04:53:36 pm
Hey Pat...expect we have another freedom mission calling.  Expect you need to hurry
on up here so we can get busy! ;D
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 26, 2005, 02:59:05 pm
I posted to an Anti-AARP site which I heard about because a liberal websiite linked to it under "hate groups" (LOL)

http://usanext.org/voices.cfm

My post will not appear until feb 28 apparently.
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 27, 2005, 12:12:07 am
Cigarrette tax rebuttal

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138456&tid=nmeconomycigarettesdc&sid=37138456&mid=28&n=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 02, 2005, 12:45:54 am
recruiting RI biz owners:

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apsmokingban&sid=37138445&mid=2284&n=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 02, 2005, 12:52:29 am
Posting to these yahoo news threads (like the ones above) appears to be an increasingly effective technique.   I used to average only one response per post, now I average two responses.  That's an indicator the average post is probably getting read by 30 + people and its title (which always says something like "Move to NH to escape bad government") probably gets seen by 200 people.   That's a good result for just spending two minutes of writing.

Interesting how many NH resposnes I get, few of them as negative as you might expect (considering how radical my posts are)
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 04, 2005, 07:27:37 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=appettigers&sid=37138445&mid=110&n=1

animal ownership prevention busibodies on the loose in NV
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 04, 2005, 11:55:22 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apunwomenworseoff&sid=37138445&mid=567&n=1

UN report on women
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 05, 2005, 03:36:02 am
NH has most pot smokers

 bill maher forum link  (http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=drugs_medicine__health_issues&Number=684525&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 07, 2005, 09:41:22 pm
fight mccain come to NH


http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=apmccaindonor&sid=37138469&mid=156&n=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 07, 2005, 09:48:34 pm
move to nh to fight the min wage


 link  (http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=krwashbureaubcminimumwagewa&sid=37138445&mid=253&n=1)
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: JasonPSorens on March 10, 2005, 10:19:41 am
For this week's AAA project, I posted a thread on a baseball forum I've been hanging around a bit lately:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?t=93768
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 12, 2005, 03:50:40 pm
to lowell sun from me

Dear folks at the Sun:

Hey thanks for your editorial "The PC police" this month.  I appreciate you standing up for a citizen's right to display his pro-gun bumper sticker.  No one should ever be subject to government intimidation for such a simple and patriotic act.

I would like your readers to know, those who don't already...that the "Stop Crime - Shoot First" sticker, and its owner, would be welcome and appreciated here in New Hampshire.   I urge him and all freedom lovers in northern Mass. to consider doing what I did - head to FreeMe.org, move to the Free State, and join our fight to keep it from becoming a *police* state like Mass.  Busybodies, control freaks and most police chiefs are, however, urged to come here only as tourists!


Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 12, 2005, 05:50:39 pm
anti-city-official

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=apcitiesproblems&sid=37138469&mid=116&n=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 13, 2005, 03:17:12 pm
escape WI

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=aphotelshooting&sid=37138445&mid=10717&n=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 13, 2005, 10:37:21 pm
Jason your link leads to a registration dialogue box. but thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: MrOrange on March 14, 2005, 02:34:52 am
http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apsunshineweekrecords&sid=37138445&mid=113
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: JasonPSorens on March 14, 2005, 07:20:53 am
Here are the results from the poll on the OOTP developments forum:

A great idea that has a chance of succeeding    2 15.38%
It has a chance of succeeding, but I hope it fails    0 0%
I wish it could succeed, but I don't think it has a chance    6 46.15%
A horrible idea that has no chance of success    2 15.38%
I don't care.    3 23.08%
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 18, 2005, 09:10:24 pm
Free Staters enable surprise victory over educrats in New Hampshire town

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1363646/posts
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 18, 2005, 09:12:56 pm
Thanks mr orange for posting this! 

one thing i try to do which you might benefit from is getting a subject line that includes something in it about moving to NH to escape this...that way it reaches even the people who don't read inside the message.
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Ward Griffiths on March 20, 2005, 05:08:49 pm
Here are the results from the poll on the OOTP developments forum:

A great idea that has a chance of succeeding    2 15.38%
It has a chance of succeeding, but I hope it fails    0 0%
I wish it could succeed, but I don't think it has a chance    6 46.15%
A horrible idea that has no chance of success    2 15.38%
I don't care.    3 23.08%
Yeah, well, baseball fans don't tend to be the sharpest bricks in the chandelier.  I find it just about as exciting as watching Astroturf grow.  (And I also consider hockey and basketball too boringly slow to watch).
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 20, 2005, 05:48:08 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apunannanreforms&sid=37138445&mid=8&n=1

anti un
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 20, 2005, 07:04:44 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1366842/posts

free staters reach 100 migrants
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 22, 2005, 08:03:39 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apschoolshooting&sid=37138445&mid=19391&n=1

NH schools have gun freedom
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 23, 2005, 12:17:59 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=chitribtsteensrageexplodesasclassmatescower&sid=37138445&mid=71&n=1

nh schools have gun freedom , part 2
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 23, 2005, 01:55:56 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1368981/posts

Free Staters 3
Police Staters 0
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 23, 2005, 02:02:36 pm
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=688241&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=

NH law saves Free Stater in open carry incident
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 24, 2005, 08:23:56 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138459&tid=oneworld45361083571111681239&sid=37138459&mid=319&n=1

anti patriot act
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 26, 2005, 01:21:43 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=apbush&sid=37138469&mid=1047806&n=1

schools need gun freedom
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Steve on March 26, 2005, 05:11:32 pm
Dada, we discussed providing a list of talk radio shows for our participants to call.  Would it make sense to maintain a listing of discussion forums for us to participate in?  The primary criterion would that they contain a large number of libertarians, i.e. a large number of members with a large percentage of libertarians.  These lists would be separate web pages on the FSP web site.
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on March 26, 2005, 06:31:40 pm
That would be a great idea.
Swarm those forums.
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 27, 2005, 01:47:37 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1369352/posts
Free stater homeschool bill wins first round
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 27, 2005, 01:49:33 pm
<<Dada, we discussed providing a list of talk radio shows for our participants to call.  Would it make sense to maintain a listing of discussion forums for us to participate in?  The primary criterion would that they contain a large number of libertarians, i.e. a large number of members with a large percentage of libertarians.  These lists would be separate web pages on the FSP web site>>

iit's an idea...anyone who wants to can just go do it.   I find I have more luck taking action than making lists.  For now this thread will have to serve as the list.
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 27, 2005, 10:19:06 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apschoolshootingsteacher&sid=37138445&mid=17&n=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 27, 2005, 11:35:48 pm
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=690286&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 27, 2005, 11:43:21 pm
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=1612217#post1612217
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 27, 2005, 11:59:36 pm
http://christianexodus.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=18170#18170
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 28, 2005, 12:01:27 am
http://christianexodus.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=18171#18171
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 28, 2005, 12:07:23 am
http://christianexodus.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=18172#18172
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 29, 2005, 10:02:25 pm
http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=9580

Free Staters enable surprise victory over educrats in NH town
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 31, 2005, 01:41:36 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1374766/posts

NH votes to maintain gun freedom in schools
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on March 31, 2005, 02:16:32 pm
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=692361&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=

NH to maintain school gun freedom
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 01, 2005, 12:41:55 pm
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=1620714#post1620714

joined thread
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 01, 2005, 12:42:57 pm
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=132642

NH schools to maintain gun freedom
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 01, 2005, 01:46:48 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375601/posts

Homeschool deregulation passes NH House
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 01, 2005, 01:50:31 pm
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=693120&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=

homeschooling dereg passes NH house
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 01, 2005, 01:52:53 pm
http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=9609

homeschool dereg
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 01, 2005, 02:02:21 pm
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=487237#487237

homeschool dereg passes nh house
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 01, 2005, 02:08:25 pm
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=238025&messageid=1112382434&lp=1112382434

homeschool dereg passes NH house

(may be a bad forum to post to, no responses, many popups)
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 01, 2005, 08:03:29 pm
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=474504#post474504

homeschool dereg passes
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 03, 2005, 06:57:43 am
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=490075#490075

NH schools to maintain gun freedom

crossfire site removes links in sigs
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 03, 2005, 07:03:59 am
http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=9602

nh to maintain gun freedom in schools
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 03, 2005, 09:43:12 am
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54870#54870

great site to post stuff
nh to maintain gun freedom in schools


Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 09, 2005, 03:25:06 pm
I urge others to copy the messages I am sending to these web forums and send them to other well-trafficked web forums that I'm not reaching.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 10, 2005, 05:00:34 pm
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=chitribtsthebusinessofinfluenceinwashington&sid=37138445&mid=269&n=1
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 10, 2005, 08:00:50 pm
http://www.politicalforum.com/

would be a good place to post but I haven'te gotten around to registering there.

edit:  ok now I'm registered there and so is dreepa i think.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 11, 2005, 07:50:51 pm
more political forums that appear active enough to be worth posting to:


http://rantweb.proboards4.com/
http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/political/configpol.pl
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/
http://s7.invisionfree.com/I_P_F/index.php?act=idx
http://debatepoint.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=general
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/?s=Master
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/

Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 11, 2005, 07:56:27 pm
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=125006#125006

school gun freedom
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 11, 2005, 08:32:50 pm
http://rantweb.proboards4.com/index.cgi?board=Politics&action=display&num=1113272864&start=0

gun freedom in schools
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 13, 2005, 10:40:12 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1382872/posts

NH to maintain red light cam ban
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 13, 2005, 10:45:17 am
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=697605&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

NH to maintain ban on red light cams
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 13, 2005, 10:50:48 am
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9087328#9087328

NH irs protest


http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=73512

gun freedom
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on April 14, 2005, 12:40:39 am
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=125489#125489
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 14, 2005, 04:04:46 pm
Good work dreepa...   If you want to keep doing this, there are several good forums I'm not registered on yet and don't plan to be.  These are the ones where you could do max damage:

http://debatepoint.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=general
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/?s=Master
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/

In the meantime I'll continue hammering at the ones I've posted to in the past.   Anyone else want to get involved in this?


Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 14, 2005, 04:16:04 pm
reminder to self: 

visit

http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/political/configpol.pl

to see if my message took

hmmm... it didn't
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on April 14, 2005, 09:56:23 pm
Dada I will hit those when I get back on Monday!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 18, 2005, 07:16:17 am
Nice going Joe, good to have you back in action!    When are you getting yer butt up here???
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 18, 2005, 07:27:25 am
Tracy Saboe now in action as part of this effort.

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=9794.msg129674#msg129674
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 18, 2005, 07:57:00 am
Here's a release I hope you guys will broadcast to some of the other forums out there:



New Hampshirites hail tax resisters at Manchester protest

Carrying "Don't Tread on Me" flags and "Ax the Tax" signs, 20 New Hampshirites converged on New Hampshire's biggest post office April 15 to oppose the "Internal Robbery Squadron."  The facility, located on Goffs Falls Road in Manchester annually serves as the destination of choice for last-minute filers.

The demonstrators stayed in action from 11 AM to midnight but were not all there at the same time.  They handed out flyers praising as heroes those who refuse to pay the tax.   They got coverage on the state's main AM radio network (WGIR) and in the Union Leader paper but were ignored by the state's primary TV station.   Interestingly, they were also largely ignored by local postal officials who allowed the protest to occur on post office property.  But curious postal workers and tax filers lined up to watch the fun.

About half of the protesters were Free Staters, members of a movement urging liberty lovers to move to New Hampshire and establish "liberty in our lifetime."

Pictures from the event:

http://www.soulawakenings.com/underground/tikiwiki/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=21&sort_mode=created_asc&desp=11&offset=0&imageId=548

More info on the Free State Project:

www.FreeStateProject.org
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Tracy Saboe on April 18, 2005, 08:29:41 am
Per Dada's request I'm posting this here too.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I recently posted messages about Larkin Rose, on all these forums. http://www.861.info/message.html  I've even responded to some of them when there's have been replies.

To my knowledge Larkin Rose is a free state project member as well, and I was thinking that if anybody who'se already members of these forums. (Somebody with a more credibility their then I have) could post replies to all of them. Perhaps simply mention that Larkin Rose is a member of the Free State Project and that New Hampshire actually had two bills last year about the income tax.

Establishing a committee to study the constitutionality of the federal income tax and constitutional abuses in the collection of the income tax and its effects on New Hampshire citizens.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2004/HB1193.html


Nullifying the Sixteenth amendment to the United States Constitution.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2004/HB1245.html

Nullifying the income tax -- or at least the IRS' misapplication of the laws (Which-ever you want to believe) is already in the consciousness of NH residents and law-makers.  And make the statement that allong with that Mr. Rose is moving to New Hampshire.  It might not be long before NH becomes a bit of a haven.

These are all the threads I started on this issue. If you're already a member of any of these forums. Please, chime in and promote the FSP, Defending FSP member Larkin, and abolishing the Income Tax.

Dada, I can help post your newsletters and things to the following forums. I couldn't get in others, so if they aren't on this list, I can't help you with them.

http://www.libertarianunderground.com/Forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1102

http://www.gnn.tv/forum/thread.php?id=4420

http://420.marijuana.com/showthread.php?t=33668

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=134969

Jefferson State
http://members5.boardhost.com/jeffstate/msg/1556.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1385136/posts
(Are freepers all so mean and rude? ) They banned my posting after just one post saying I was a troll!)

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2145856
(Wouldn't let me post URL till I have 50 posts. Perhaps somebody else could post my messages there. -- At least untill, I develop some reputation. But I'm so out of my element over there. I wasn't able to post about Rose or FSP or anything. )

freedomofspeech
http://p197.ezboard.com/ffreedomofspeechfrm17.showMessage?topicID=666.topic

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?p=157361

NorthStarPreparedness
http://p068.ezboard.com/fnorthstarpreparednessnetworkfrm5.showMessage?topicID=526.topic

http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=13764

http://www.opinionatedjerks.com/cgi-bin/forum.pl?read=21330

http://www.centristcoalition.com/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB_14&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=333&0

http://www.the-brights.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=3209&pid=42468&st=0&#entry42468

http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9108436

http://www.volconvo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=111529&posted=1

http://www.libertarian.org.au/blog/readArticle.jsp?articleID=8868756

http://www.thementalmilitia.org/clairefiles/index.php?s=70028f3f86827311e2900ae01ddc3707&act=ST&f=22&t=4284&st=0&

http://www.potsmokerslounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2001&highlight=#2001

http://www.itsallpolitics.com/irs-caught-cheating-vt3082.html?sid=1735f8baaf255c5b030f07be2cb6b010

http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3
I had a post here, but it looks like it was deleted.


http://rantweb.proboards4.com/index.cgi?board=Politics&action=display&num=1113780118

http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/political/configpol.pl?read=4472

http://s7.invisionfree.com/I_P_F/index.php?showtopic=1218&st=0&

http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1113781216;start=0

http://debatepoint.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1113781848&start=0

http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=348498

http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9541

I couldn't post to Bill Mayher's site. Something wrong with my ISP or something. Those two major gun sites  www.ar15.com and www.ak-47.netwouldn't take my yahoo e-mail address either. I'm not doing any of the Yahoo forums and didn't register to slash-dot either.

But the above forums, I would apreciate your help in Promoting the FSP, Getting Larkin Rose's message out, and hopefully abolishing the Income tax -- At least with-in New HAmpshire. Tax Protestors, resistors, and tax honesty movement people are the very people we need to be recruiting.

Thanks,

Tracy
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Tracy Saboe on April 18, 2005, 04:53:05 pm
I could really use help generating discussion on all these forums.
Could really use some help here.

http://www.potsmokerslounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2190

Tracy
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Tracy Saboe on April 18, 2005, 05:42:37 pm
And here.

http://debatepoint.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1113781848&start=0
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 18, 2005, 09:52:33 pm
I could really use help generating discussion on all these forums.
Could really use some help here.

http://www.potsmokerslounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2190

Tracy

done
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 18, 2005, 10:12:17 pm
Means  a lot to me that you guys are  joining me in this forum recruitment crusade...I hope you enjoy it as much as I do and keep it up.   It's kind of like farming.... you go back and tend the seeds you've sewn around the Net :)
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 18, 2005, 10:19:54 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1386333/posts

Tax protest
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Tracy Saboe on April 19, 2005, 09:36:41 pm
I really would apreciate it if some others who are already members of the above forums, (if you are.) to chime in a little.

I recently posted about Gun Rights to

http://catallarchy.net/blog/archives/2005/04/19/today-in-history/

Tracy
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Tracy Saboe on April 19, 2005, 10:01:01 pm
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2148319

and
 
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2148307

I need somebody who's already a member and has 50 posts here at gunsnet to post some URL's for the Free State Project, in both of these links.  I'm not allowed to post links untill I've got 50 posts or so.

Tracy
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 20, 2005, 09:09:02 pm


http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=15523#post15523
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 20, 2005, 09:19:45 pm
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=3775
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: freedomroad on April 21, 2005, 04:54:22 am
I just posted a new topic on Free Republic. Note how I posted that topic. Note also the responses. You thus may learn how better to post over there. If you are a Free Republic member, especially a long-time member, please add a response after the other FReepers have had a chance to post a dozen responses.  Keep posting periodically to bump the topic.  Beware that it will draw fire from the anti-libertarians. Please don't present yourself as overly defensive of pot-heads, druggies, anarchists, or similar extreme positions typically associated with libertarians -- otherwise you may just prove to the FReepers that the Free Staters are nothing but a bunch of pot-heads, druggies, and anarchists.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1388006/posts

Maybe this is just me wanting to argue...don't worry, though, I won't post to that thread.   Anyway, I don't think pot-head is an extreme position and I only wish it was typically associated with libertarians as that might give the LP 50,000,000 more votes from past and current pot smokers  ;)

BTW, nice post to FR.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 21, 2005, 05:43:22 am


http://www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=7854
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 21, 2005, 06:32:30 am
rcvd. confirmation from the two above now,

awaiting confirmation email from the one below:
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 21, 2005, 08:42:10 am
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=92876

http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1114112563;start=0#0

  - the second on bans links supposedly until you are old hand
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on April 21, 2005, 04:45:21 pm
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=351664#post351664

Tax protest

Dada I like how you call them 'seeds of the internet'. :D
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 24, 2005, 05:53:39 pm
Good work dreep....keep it up.  don't always feel like you have to have us in there on the same thread backing you up; we're probably not always going to be registered for the same forums.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: freedomroad on April 25, 2005, 12:38:02 am
I joined the Showtime messageboard.

Here is my first post,
http://www.sho.com/site/message/thread.do?topicid=93894&boardid=1052&groupid=15&pagenum=1&view=linear&messageid=1952234

Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Tracy Saboe on April 25, 2005, 05:23:48 pm
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2155197&postcount=150
:)

Tracy
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 27, 2005, 11:18:44 am
got this message in my email:

<<The website and forum for Politics & Current Affairs is moving from www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.com
to www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.co.uk - Please therefore update your bookmarks
accordingly.

The forum address is now www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.co.uk/Forum>>
Title: Re: Get Involved! Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 27, 2005, 12:07:37 pm
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=93526

NH to maintain gun freedom in schools
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 27, 2005, 12:16:35 pm
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=93507&Disp=3#C3

Pot
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: freedomroad on April 27, 2005, 10:57:22 pm
http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=13858

I know of at least one new poster to the forum because of it.  Also, feel free to post to the forum, you don't even need to register!
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 28, 2005, 09:33:39 am
joe wrote:

<<update...
The above has only had two responses.  Porcupines FReepers should add their comments.>>

done. 
also posted to Keith's thread good work keith
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on April 30, 2005, 10:51:03 pm
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/listarticles.cgi?104#A93887
http://politicsandcurrentaffairs.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=110033#110033
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1394621/posts
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=3843
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=17544#post17544
http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=9775

NH Attorney General threatens arrest of Free Stater
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on May 01, 2005, 01:42:19 pm
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/here-vp64397.html#64397
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=128917#128917
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=359114#post359114

NH Attorney General threatens arrest of Manicurist

Dada hope you don't mind... they were cut and pasted from yours.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 01, 2005, 03:06:14 pm
Good work!  everyone who can PLEASE cut and paste more of my press releases above, not enough folks are doing that.    we could become like  a virtual major media outlet if we had 5 or 10 of us copying and spreading these press releases around the Net.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 04, 2005, 07:06:36 am
http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138446&tid=afpafplifestyleus&sid=37138446&mid=711&n=1
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 04, 2005, 05:44:24 pm
dont' forget to revisit the threads you've started guys.   It's fun to see the reaction and you can bump up the visibility of your threads by participating in the debates they generate.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 06, 2005, 10:30:17 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1397975/posts

NH govt. backs down in faceoff with Free Stater
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 07, 2005, 06:34:15 pm
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?t=1338&goto=newpost

NH...the free state?
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: SteveA on May 07, 2005, 07:48:26 pm
I wish more sites would let people post without registering. :(  I keep trying to post on some of the threads you've put here but I'm reluctance to do the registering .... maybe I should get a bogus e-mail account and register on them as Fred? ;)
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on May 08, 2005, 01:25:15 am
Steve I went and opened up another email at Google (gmail) and do all my posting under that email account. (so far I haven't seen any spam).
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 09, 2005, 05:18:23 pm
I wish more sites would let people post without registering. :(  I keep trying to post on some of the threads you've put here but I'm reluctance to do the registering .... maybe I should get a bogus e-mail account and register on them as Fred? ;)

Just adopt a couple forums and post to those, preverably forums we are not already hitting.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 09, 2005, 05:44:00 pm
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=94732

Free Stater chooses jail over licensing
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on May 10, 2005, 10:46:47 am
Updated these with news of the arrest:
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/here-vp64397.html#64397
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=128917#128917
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=359114#post359114

Posted new threads with News Article of arrest:

http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=367222#post367222
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67124#67124
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 12, 2005, 08:23:58 am
NH: Free Stater protest draws heavy media coverage. 

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1401660/posts
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=709649&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=94991
http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=9837
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=19229#post19229
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=3992
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1115907325;start=0#0
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=505682#post505682
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=571317#571317
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9218049#9218049

Below is the message I posted to the above forums.  Please copy and paste it into other web forums if you can!

---

NH: Free Stater protest draws heavy media coverage

New Hampshire's "outlaw manicurist" Mike Fisher got what he was after this week...his own arrest and a new focus on the legitimacy of business licensing. 

His goal was to deliver a message:  "In a free country, you do not need the government's permission to start a business."

On Monday May 9, Fisher chose to perform a manicure without a license, in front of the New Hampshire Board of Barbering.  He had vowed to continue doing so "until they force me to stop" and was as good as his word.   After giving him multiple avenues for retreat, Concord police reluctantly cuffed the 23-year-old Free Stater after he told them he would not voluntary stop performing the manicures nor appear in court if summoned.

Fisher had to spend one day in Merrimack county jail, but by the 11th his defiance of authority had generated coverage from every major media outlet in New Hampshire and many others outside the state.  He made the front page of the state's main paper (the Union Leader), received hours of news and talk attention on the state's primary talk radio stations and was on the evening news at least three times WMUR, New Hampshire's main TV station.   On Wednesday the Union Leader published a double-sized editorial against overzealous licensing and a sympathetic political cartoon depicting Fisher on a wanted poster. 

At least 5 TV stations outside New Hampshire reported the event, as did The Liberator Online.   The Free Staters themselves have a syndicated radio show which airs in about 9 markets around the U.S.; coverage there lasted all week. 

Virtually all of the media attention was positive or neutral.

A sampling of coverage:

http://www.soulawakenings.com/underground/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Activists+to+Defy+State+Licensing+Laws

The question no one knows the answer to is...what's next?

More information on the libertarian migration to New Hampshire: 
www.FreeStateProject.org


 



Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 12, 2005, 12:12:15 pm
Posted the message below to:

http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=505714#post505714
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1115913443;start=0#0
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=3993
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=19251#post19251
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=95022
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9218040#9218040


I urge others to post this message to other well-trafficked web forums

---

New Hampshire: Surprise victory for homeschoolers

A bill that boldly reduces regulation of homeschoolers in New Hampshire passed its third major hurdle on the way to becoming law this week.

Crafted by Free Stater Dawn Lincoln of Winchester, House Bill 406 would reduce government involvement in homeschooling by an estimated 30%.   It has spent the last three months working its way - narrowly - through State House committees, then the House itself.   On Tueday May 10 the bill came up for a vote in State Senate committee, where it passed 6-0.

It must now survive the full Senate and earn the governor's signature in order to become law.   Not bad for a piece of "extremist" legislation!

Text of the bill:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2005/HB0406.html

One of the things I like is that it removes about 100 words text from the law rather than adding text.

More information on the libertarian experiment in New Hampshire:

www.FreeStateProject.org
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dalamar49 on May 16, 2005, 06:52:02 pm
I placed one of the articles and the funny cartoon about Mike on this forum:

http://merit.nosync.org/index.php?showtopic=363&s=

Its a gamer website for members of my gamer region, so please don't decend on them.

I'm still here guys and doing what I can. Live free or die, yeah!!!
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 21, 2005, 11:41:30 am
Sending this to various forums, listed below.   Please if you can , post this press release to other well trafficked forums.  I can't get to them all!

----

From NHfree.com
Man Without I.D. Vows to Board Flight or be Jailed

Manchester, NH
May 21, 2005

Inspired by New Hampshire's "outlaw manicurist," another Granite Stater is stepping forward to peacefully defy license-related laws.  Thirty-five-year old Russell Kanning of Keene has announced he will approach a Transportation Security Administration (TSA) checkpoint at Manchester airport on June 11 and refuse to cooperate with the requirement to show ID.  "I will either board the plane without I.D. or be arrested," he says.  "In a free country you do not need government permission to travel."

Kanning has a ticket to Philadelphia and, if allowed to travel there, plans to celebrate by visiting Independence Hall.

Two months after the September 11th attacks, the Aviation Security Act federalized airport security nationwide and granted new police powers to the TSA.  Now, an ID is mandatory to travel by commercial aircraft, passengers must travel alone past security checkpoints, and random full-body searches in public are considered normal.

Kanning stresses that he will not resist arrest or do anything that might be perceived as physically threatening.  He says this act of nonviolent resistance will follow the model laid down by Gandhi, who used peaceful noncooperation to expel the British from India.  "We will tell them everything we're going to do ahead of time.  We are not going to disrupt the operation of the airport," he says.

Kanning says the parallels with Gandhi's situation go further than a shared belief in nonviolence.   "In South Africa (where Gandhi's protests began), Indians had to have special I.D...so it's very similar that way, and he wanted to burn it...He was appealing to that same basic idea that we have rights to not have to have paperwork to be able to move freely."

Earlier this month another Gandhi admirer, Mike Fisher of Newmarket, used the Mahatma's techniques to protest business licensing.  After announcing he would perform an unlicensed manicure in front of the state licensing offices, he carried out his promise, earned a brief trip to jail and received heavy regional media coverage for his viewpoint.

Kanning says Gandhi's and Fisher's examples inspired him to take similar action against the growing "surveillance state."  He believes the Real ID amendment passed by the Senate this month will make things even worse.  But he says it's important to stay positive.    "The goal is we want to get to the point where we can travel without having to have paperwork so, this is the beginning of that.  We see light at the end of the tunnel. "

Currently the plan is for Kanning to approach the security checkpoint at 12:30 PM.  Journalists and supporters will want to be there by noon.

Summary:

What:  Civil disobedience against ID requirements under federalized airport security.
Where:  Manchester Airport in New Hampshire (exact spot to be determined)
When:  Saturday, June 11 @ noon
Who:  Russell Kanning of Keene, NH, supporters from NHfree.com
Why:  To draw attention to the recent and continuing loss of privacy and freedom due to federalized airport security and National ID.
How:  By approaching a TSA checkpoint with a ticket but no ID, refusing to show ID, and refusing to cooperate with the law until arrested or allowed to board the plane.
Contacts:  You can find out more and post questions to the discussion boards at NHfree.com   

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posted above to
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9267085#9267085
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=593932#593932
http://207.58.169.66/forum/showthread.php?p=511396#post511396
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1116694448;start=0#0
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4080
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=20947#post20947
http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=9882
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=95967
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=713348&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1408111/posts
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=1417.0

http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9747#9747
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=2359;start=0#lastPost
http://www.youngelephant.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3544#post3544
http://forums.delphiforums.com/bully/start
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=11027



Thinking about adding some kind of info from this to the news release...
http://varrin.com/security.htm
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: FTL_Ian on May 24, 2005, 11:59:47 am
The FSP is discussed somewhere in this mammoth thread:
http://www.podcastalley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1723
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on May 25, 2005, 12:01:07 am
These got the Airport protest from above:


http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=383781#post383781
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?p=72259#72259
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=133725#133725
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 25, 2005, 10:33:28 pm
thanks dreep

Forums I am registering for now

one or more at
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=dp-civgov&nav=index
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php
http://forums.seawolf.cc/register.php?a=act&u=499&i=61888425
http://forums.delphiforums.com/bully/start
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on May 26, 2005, 02:59:56 pm
Sending this out to web forums, direct links to the discussions are at the bottom.   Others who can plz do the same.

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Libertarian talk radio surges in New Hampshire

Not sure how much to read into this...but in the 9 months since I moved to New Hampshire I've noticed a lot of changes in the talk radio culture, mostly positive for local freedom lovers.

When I first got here to Keene in late August '04, there was apparently only one local libertarian talk show in the state - Gardner Goldsmith's program airing 3-6PM weekdays on WGIR-AM.  Now he airs an extra hour each day, and his signal reaches about half the homes in the state.

Southwestern New Hampshire's main radio station had no local libertarian show last year, but now libertarian Eric Scott is on from 10AM-11:30AM every weekday. 

Free Talk Live, the syndicated show run by Free Staters was a nearly unknown Internet show when I moved here.  Now it airs on two radio stations in New Hampshire and one in Mass; the Mass signal reaches southern NH.  Though not technically a local show, Free Talk Live discusses New Hampshire issues on nearly every broadcast (six nights a week 8-10PM EST).  These guys are hardcore libertarians and field a lot of calls from New Hampshire residents which air in about 10 markets around the nation.   

During the same 9 month time period one major socialist show (Arnie Arneson's) has gone off the air in Concord...though it's still airing in the northern part of the state.   The "Bureaucrat Doctor" show  -  where a local government physician answers questions - has been cut in half on WKBK in Keene.  Other things have probably happened that I don't know about, but these are just the changes I'm aware of as a listener.

It's not clear to what extent this minor sea change is connected to the Free State Project (www.FreeStateProject.org), which selected New Hampshire as a target for libertarian migration about two years ago.  So far about 150 liberty activists are thought to have moved here, with another 6,500 pledged to follow.   This *has* had a disproportionate impact on call-ins to NH talk radio...with more and more freedom activists each "liberating" a few minutes a day on talk shows around the state.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/postarticle.cgi
http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=9909
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=80798
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28543
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1117138374;start=0#0
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4116
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?t=1640
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=show_business__media&Number=715576&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1411214/posts
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=1426.0
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9792#9792
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=2367;start=0#lastPost
http://www.youngelephant.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3550#post3550
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=bully&nav=start
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=11055
http://207.58.169.66/forum/showthread.php?p=511396#post511396   (old thread diff topic)

the above list iincludes all of the forums i post too i think
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: FTL_Ian on May 26, 2005, 03:34:18 pm
Ahem..  2 stations in NH.   ;D

WNTK FM
WUVR AM

See this thread (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=10050.0) for details.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 01, 2005, 12:51:35 pm
Sending this out to web forums, direct links to the discussions are at the bottom.   Others who can plz spread this message to other web forums.

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New Hampshire schools to continue allowing guns

OK this is a little dated but most of the nation doesn't know about it:

The New Hampshire House voted overwhelmingly this session to kill a gun control bill which would have restricted the possession of guns on public school property. NH will continue to be one of a tiny handful of states that still respects the 2nd Amendment in and around schools.

I and other Free Staters had a chance to testify against this bill back when it was in committee; I got the hearing's only standing ovation (and it's been all downhill since when I show up to testify, sometimes the reps want to strangle me LOL)! But at this hearing the citizen gun lobby really came out of the woodwork; probably 20 of them testified against, outnumbering the gun controllers around 3-1. The committee voted our way narrowly, recommending 7-6 that the "control freak" bill was "inexpedient to legislate." That enabled the stunning victory in the House. I dont' remember the exact House vote but it was about 2-1 to keep guns legal in schools.

Free Stater, by the way, are people who have moved to New Hampshire for more freedom and for the purpose of enhancing the existing freedom here (details on that at FreeStateProject.org )

Details on the gun vote are at:

http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=734.0

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These are the forums I've posted the above msg to:

http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=11164
http://forums.delphiforums.com/bully/messages
http://www.youngelephant.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3551#post3551
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=2376;start=0#lastPost
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9906#9906
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=1462.0
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=23283#post23283
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4174
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=gun_rights;action=display;num=1117658331
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=97105
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 01, 2005, 03:29:00 pm
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4110&st=0&p=47164&#entry47164   (reply #18)
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 05, 2005, 09:18:35 am
Posting this mini-press-release around the net also (not a priority item...those of you who are following my lead should probably post the more interesting stuff before bothering with this one)

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"March for Capitalism" in New Hampshire

Waving "Don't Tread on Me" flags and NHfree.com signs, 18 of us turned out June 4 for what I believe was the third annual "March for Capitalism."   It's been happening around the world in the past but I believe this year was the first year for tiny New Hampshire.  About a third of us were Free Staters who moved here  since the state was targetted for libertarian migration back in '03 (www.FreeStateProject.org).   Organizer Jim Perry awarded small business owner Edi Swearingen of Keene the title of New Hampshire  "Capitalist of the Year."

Compared to the pro-freedom civil disobedience that's been going on in-state lately this event was nothing huge, but it's always fun to see liberty-friendly activity in the Free State.

Will try to come back and post pics as soon as they are up...

http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=520338#post520338
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 05, 2005, 11:04:26 am
below msg posted to:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1416936/posts
http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=9955
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9344807#9344807
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4206
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=97511
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=622844#622844
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=24320#post24320


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NH Senate:  VT town may secede to New Hampshire

As some of you may know, entire towns are working to try and secede to low-tax New Hampshire, the most prominent of them being Killington, Vermont.   This month the resort town moved a step closer when it won tentative support from the "Free State's" Senate.

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From http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=3370478
(a Vermont TV station)

CONCORD, N.H. The New Hampshire Senate has joined the House in approving a plan to help Killington (Vermont) join the Granite State.  The Senate yesterday approved setting up a commission to negotiate the terms of Killington's secession, but only if Vermont establishes a similar commission.

The plan must go back to the House for another vote, because the Senate made a change to the version the House passed. The governor's office would not say whether Governor John Lynch plans to sign the plan.

In Killington, Norman Holcomb, chairman of the Select Board, said he hopes the secession talk will prompt changes in Vermont's tax system so town residents will change their minds about wanting to leave. But he says they're still working to get lawmakers to set up a commission to negotiate with New Hampshire.

Vermont Governor James Douglas says he's confident Killington will remain part of Vermont.

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For information on how *you* can secede to New Hampshire and attain more freedom, visit www.FreeStateProject.org
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 05, 2005, 05:16:15 pm
Will post this around the net as soon as I can.  really need help i can't get these messages out fast enough...

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From Concord Monitor 6/5/05
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/06052005/news/46059.htm

Libertarians push limits of law

By Daniel Barrick
Concord Monitor   

CONCORD - This Saturday, Russell Kanning will attempt to board a flight from Manchester to Philadelphia, carrying nothing but a Bible and a copy of the Declaration of Independence. He doesn’t expect to get very far.
In what he calls an act of civil disobedience, Kanning, a 35-year-old accountant from Keene and a staunch libertarian, will refuse to show identification to airline officials or submit to a security search. But even if he’s barred from his flight, Kanning hopes his actions will highlight what he considers overly burdensome state intrusion.

"They’re not going to be happy I’m doing this," Kanning said. "But people shouldn’t have to go through all the hassles we have to go through. They just want to control us."

Kanning’s performance at Manchester Airport will be the latest in a series of public protests that libertarians here and elsewhere are using to promote their belief in individual freedom and limited government.

Last month, a Newmarket man spent a night in jail after he filed a friend’s fingernails without a license from the state cosmetology board. The man, Mike Fisher, made sure to reap maximum publicity for the stunt, telling police, state officials, and local news outlets about his plans ahead of time. Unlicensed manicuring is a misdemeanor in New Hampshire.

"Normally, we would like to handle this kind of situation with a warning," said Lt. Jay Brown of the Concord Police Department, which handled Fisher’s arrest. "But this individual was asked to stop and when he did not stop, we arrested him."

Other planned demonstrations include starting a private mail service, to call attention to the federal government’s monopoly on first-class mail delivery, and selling bottles of liquor, in defiance of state liquor laws. A crew of libertarians in Kentucky plans to serve alcohol to an underage military veteran next month, letting local police know ahead of time for maximum exposure.

"Libertarians have spent so much time complaining about government, but civil disobedience is a path to actually fixing things," Kanning said. "Who knows what this might inspire?"

But enthusiasm for such public displays isn’t shared throughout New Hampshire’s libertarian community. Some libertarians dismiss protesters like Kanning and Fisher as publicity hounds who risk turning people off with their stunts.

"This kind of protesting is non-productive, counter-productive, and in my opinion is quite sophomoric and egotistical in its approach," said Don Gorman, a former libertarian state representative from Deerfield. "Individuals can pursue the cause of liberty as they see fit, but the way to accomplish those goals is by working with the establishment."

Increasingly visible protests come as libertarians of all stripes seek a more prominent platform in New Hampshire. The Free State Project earned national headlines last year when its members settled on New Hampshire as the setting for its experiment in coordinated pro-liberty living. The project’s leaders hope to move 20,000 like-minded libertarians to the state in the next few years, fostering an environment of limited government. They say hundreds have already made the move.

New Hampshire "is really where it’s happening," said Fisher, who moved to the state a year ago as part of the Free State Project. "We’ve all come here to take part in this. More and more, we are starting to translate our ideas into reality, and people aren’t going to be able to ignore it anymore."

John Babiarz, chairman of the New Hampshire Libertarian Party, said such an approach represented a generational shift in libertarian thinking.

"A decade ago, we tried to make changes by lobbying politicians and talking to people, and we got nowhere," Babiarz said. "The newer breed of younger people are making the same arguments, but instead of through the State House, they’re doing it in public by creating a public spectacle. As long as it’s done peacefully, it makes for great political theater and it brings the issue into the news."

Like all political parties, Babiarz said, the Libertarian Party includes both purists and pragmatists. The two sides may disagree over tactics while still sharing the same goals.

Critics in the movement say libertarians can have a bigger impact by working with the existing power structures. Gorman, for example, leads tours of the State House for libertarians who want to see government from the inside. He encourages his students to meet their local representatives, observe the lobbying process and submit their own legislation. He said he’s already grooming potential candidates for next year’s elections.

Staged protests might make sense in oppressive police states, Gorman said. But in New Hampshire, the relatively relaxed political environment make such displays unnecessary.

"This is not a closed society where it’s difficult to reach your elected official, as it is in a lot of states," Gorman said. "If you want to talk to the governor, walk into the chamber at the next council meeting and do it."

His advice for frustrated libertarians: "Your first job is to be a good citizen. Get involved in the Boy Scouts, in local boards and committees, in the volunteer fire department. Seek political office, if you like, and bring your philosophy into the realm of government."

Such advice holds little attraction for Kanning. He claims not to have paid federal income tax since 1998 and drives without a valid driver’s license because he thinks it’s a nuisance. He’s considering burning his Social Security card. The idea of speaking before the Legislature disgusts him.

"I wish there weren’t things like government because they just get in the way of us living our lives," he said. "I don’t want to have to deal with it at all."

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posted above article to
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1417085/posts
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=11277
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 07, 2005, 12:22:23 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1417922/posts
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: KBCraig on June 07, 2005, 02:16:16 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1417922/posts

I gave up on the freepers about 30 seconds after they started.

Freerepublic.com has descended into a combination flamefest and inside joke. It started out as a great online movement, but I see little evidence today that it's anything other than a big internet wankfest. No matter what gets posted there, no matter the merit, within three posts the thread is a derisive flamefest.

I've got no time for the freepers. They need to spend some time working for change, instead of beating off about how they just showed so-and-so.

Kevin
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 12, 2005, 08:55:01 am
New Hampshire Free Stater chooses arrest over TSA compliance

This gentleman went to jail so you folks could debate the merits of his cause.  Don't let his sacrifice go to waste!

"Unidentified Flying Objector" charged, jailed over I.D./patdown refusal

From NHfree.com
Manchester, N.H.
6/11/05

Right on schedule and true to his word, 35-year-old Russell Kanning of Keene, New Hampshire attempted to board his flight at Manchester Airport Saturday...without showing I.D. or submitting to a pat-down.

The "Unidentified Flying Objector" and 15 of his supporters found themselves slightly outnumbered by police, TSA "suits" and FBI agents, at least two of whom surveyed Kanning's home all morning and politely followed his car to the airport.

Entering the security checkpoint clutching a Bible and a copy of the Declaration of Independence, Kanning spent four minutes conversing with security and state troopers.  A TSA employee stood in the metal detector to block his way.  Kanning showed his boarding pass and requested passage to his flight but refused to show I.D., remove clothing or submit to a patdown.

"That's the way it used to be done; we fought 40 years of Cold War without needing those things," said his wife Kat Dillon, who watched with mixed feelings from twenty feet away.  "But now we have all these alphabet agencies that take more of our money; they make it too tough for our pilots to arm themselves and still don't protect us very well."

Six media representatives including a Manchester TV crew documented Kanning's progress - or lack thereof - as state troopers flanked him, held him loosely by the arms and escorted him away from the checkpoint.   After Kanning promised them he would continue peacefully trying to board his flight until arrested or allowed to do so "the pre-911 way", officials placed him under arrest and took him to a small "law enforcement center" near the airport entrance.

Mike Fisher, a friend of Kanning's who witnessed the arrest, says the bearded NHfree.com activist was charged with criminal trespass, a Class B misdemeanor.  Then they transported him to Rockingham County Jail, where he will remain for at least two days...until arraigned at Derry District Court Monday morning.   Fisher says his understanding is that the Class B charge means no there will be no additional jail time for Kanning.  Fisher himself is no stranger to civil disobedience.  He earned statewide notice last month for performing a manicure without a license - in front of the licensing board.   His penalty - a Class A misdemeanor charge and a 30 day suspended sentence - was harsher than Kanning's.

Harsh or not, Kanning's sacrifice is meant to draw attention to what he calls an out of control "papers please" approach forced on travelers by government.   He's urging Washington to end its involvement in airline security, pointing out that D.C. commandeers billions for it while making it difficult for pilots to arm themselves and using bailouts to prevent airlines from being held accountable.

"In a free country," he adds, "you do not need government permission to travel."

Liberty-related activity has been on the rise in New Hampshire since the state was targeted for migration by a libertarian group, the Free State Project, in 2003.  So far at least 107 activists have moved here.  Kanning is a member of NHfree.com, a loose-knit network set up by local Free Staters and conservative/libertarian New Hampshire natives.  It works to reduce government and currently runs the state's most active political forum, where the next arrest is already being planned.   

Other media coverage:

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=88968
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NH_LIBERTARIANS_PROTEST_NHOL-?SITE=NHMAL&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Info on the libertarian migration to New Hampshire:
www.FreeStateProject.org
www.NHfree.com


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posted above message to:
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=525953#post525953
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1421311/posts
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=11419
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10657#10657
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=1553.0
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=725050&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4331
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=643291#643291
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9386674#9386674
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=98445&Disp=1#C1

Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on June 12, 2005, 11:34:56 pm
Above posted here:


http://www.itsallpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79978#79978
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=137369#137369
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=402026#post402026
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 14, 2005, 02:06:30 pm
Here is a list of forums that currently are not getting much traffic about the FSP and would benefit from these press releases!

First on the list is:


http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl

More I will post later if and when I find them.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on June 14, 2005, 11:01:57 pm
Done!

http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=outrage;action=display;num=1118808081;start=0

Dada send me a list and those can be 'mine'
I normally hit the three above and I can add as many as you want me to.

Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 17, 2005, 05:10:25 pm
Ok Dreepa for now your list appears to be

http://www.itsallpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79978#79978
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=137369#137369
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=402026#post402026
http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=outrage;action=display;num=1118808081;start=0
 
I may suggest more for you later...but don't let that stop you from finding some on your own.  thanks dreep!
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 17, 2005, 09:07:50 pm
The message below has gone out to the following forums...  hoping you can send it to yours too Dreep

http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=530602#post530602
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=11552
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=2389;start=0#lastPost
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10840#10840
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=1596.0
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1425435/posts
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=727127&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=28889#post28889
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4381
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31509
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=652581#652581
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9406222#9406222

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New Hampshire family to defy school tax

From NHfree.com
Keene, N.H.; June 15 2005

38-year-old Kat Dillon isn't satisfied she's getting her money's worth from government schools.  In fact, she says she isn't getting anything from them at all.

"My child is homeschooled," says Dillon.  "She's never gone to public school and never will.  I don't get any use out of it, so it's wrong for them to make me pay for it."

To drive her point home, Dillon will appear at Keene City Hall on June 30 with a check for only a fraction of what the city says she and her family owe.

"The part that would have gone to public schools...we're keeping it.  It's our money."

After handing over her truncated check, Dillon will lead a protest outside city hall urging others to "recalculate" their taxes as well.  She says she has no idea whether her act of noncompliance will inspire anyone else to do the same but that her family will "do this alone if necessary."

Dillon is a longtime opponent of tax-funded schooling, which she considers "education prevention."  And she's no stranger to protest. On June 11 her husband Russell Kanning made national news when he chose arrest over compliance with TSA regulations at Manchester Airport.  And it was Dillon who received the infamous nail buff from "Outlaw Manicurist" Mike Fisher.  In May, Fisher gave her an unlicensed manicure in front of the state licensing board and also went to jail for it.   

The soft-spoken computer programmer says she recognizes her act of civil disobedience will probably trigger retaliation, possibly even the loss of her home.  "But," she says, "it's the right thing to do."

Summary:

What: Civil disobedience against school property tax
How:  By handing over a check that does not include the "school portion" of the tax, then leading a protest.
Why:   "It's my money!"
Where: Keene City Hall: 3 Washington St. (at the traffic circle), Keene, NH.
When:  10:00 A.M. Thursday, June 30, 2005.
Who:  Kat Dillon, supporters from NHfree.com, whoever wants to join us.
Contacts:  See NHfree.com
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: KBCraig on June 18, 2005, 02:31:10 am
On the spur of the moment, I may have gotten the bail amount wrong. But the response is still good.  :)

http://www.britishguns.net/cgi-bin/forums/rant-ot.pl?read=9136

This is an international forum of Lee-Enfield collectors (and collectors of other British weapons). Americans, Canuckians, Aussies, Kiwis, Zud Arrikaaners, and Brits all mingle there, so the responses must be considered in that light.

Kevin
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 18, 2005, 08:36:50 am
Dreep can you add the following two forums to the four already on your list:

http://www.conservativepunk.com/forum/default.asp
http://pub104.ezboard.com/famericanconservativefrm1

And any others you find on your own and want to add.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 18, 2005, 08:52:57 am
Dreeep if you are up for it here are some more forums you could post these releases to; these are libertarian forums which have traffic exceeding 3 posts per day.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomforum2/   4 posts per day
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GLIL/  10 posts/day
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/libertarianissues/   7 messages a day

More libertarian forums listed at
http://www.earthmoms.com/directory/Society/Politics/Liberalism/Libertarianism/Chats_and_Forums 

And here are is another forum with much more traffic, but generic rather than libertarian:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/193769
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on June 20, 2005, 09:00:16 pm
Ok I am just back from vacation.
Tomorrow I will sign up for the ones above and start posting!
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on June 30, 2005, 04:02:52 pm
Posted message below to the follwing web forums;

http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9466045#9466045
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=685376#685376
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=539375#post539375
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4520
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=735398&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=1
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=1758.0
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1434239/posts
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11842#11842
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=2399
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=11896
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32058

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NH: Free Stater behind anti-Souter land grab

Looks like the man trying to take over Supreme Court justice David Souter's New Hampshire home is a Free Stater (www.FreeStateProject.org).  He's retaliating against Souter's support for eminent domain abuse in this weeks Kelo vs. New London ruling.

From the Concord Monitor:
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050629/REPOSITORY/506290321/1031

'Hotel' targets Souter's home 
Property rights advocates make protest personal 
By MEG HECKMAN
Monitor staff
June 29. 2005 8:00AM

A letter that emerged yesterday from the fax machine in the Weare Town Hall has thrust Supreme Court Justice David Souter's beloved farmhouse into a national debate over property rights.

Souter, a longtime Weare resident, joined in a court decision last week that allows governments to seize private property from one owner and turn it over to another if doing so would benefit a community. Now, an outraged Californian wants to test the ruling - by asking Weare's selectmen to let him replace Souter's farm with a posh hotel.

"A recent Supreme Court decision. . . . clears the way for this land to be taken," Logan Darrow Clements wrote in a letter faxed to town officials yesterday. "The justification for such an eminent domain action is that our hotel will better serve the public interest as it will bring in economic development and higher tax revenue to Weare."

The letter, which included Souter's street address, was posted on conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh's Web site yesterday afternoon, spurring concerns in town about the reclusive justice's safety and privacy.

Souter was attacked last year while jogging in his Washington, D.C. neighborhood, although the police there believe it was not related to his work in the court. While most locals here know where he lives, they respect the justice's desire for solitude. Yesterday, for example, town officials blacked out his address before sending a copy of a letter about the hotel project to the Monitor.

Souter couldn't be reached by phone yesterday and had not yet returned to Weare last evening, but a few police cruisers were parked on the edge of his property.

"It was a precaution, just being protective," said Lt. Mark Bodanza.
Clements is the CEO of Freestar Media, a Los Angeles-based outfit that fights "abusive" government through a Web site, a fledgling cable show and efforts like the one in Weare. Clements, who could not be reached yesterday, plans to move to New Hampshire soon as part of the Free State Project, a group that supports limiting government powers. Thousands of Free-Staters plan to move to New Hampshire in the next few years because of its small government, few taxes and "Live Free or Die" motto. (Other members of the project stressed that Clements's hotel plans are not affiliated with the group.)

Clements's request fascinated the staff at town hall, and Code Enforcement Officer Charles Meany said he passed the letter on to the board of selectmen.

"Am I taking this seriously? But of course," said Meany, who handles building requests. "In lieu of the recent Supreme Court decision, I would imagine that some people are pretty much upset. If it is their right to pursue this type of end, then by all means let the process begin. . . . I have to allow the law to take its course."

Clements dubbed his project the Lost Liberty Hotel, and says it will include a dining room called the Just Desserts Café and a museum focused on "the loss of freedom in America." And those Bible-leaving Gideons won't be welcome. Instead, Clements wants to tuck copies of Atlas Shrugged into the night stands, giving visitors a chance to read author Ayn Rand's individualistic tome.

Souter's two-story colonial, assessed at just more than $100,000, brought in $2,895 in property taxes last year. A hotel, especially one as unique as Clements's, would likely net the town a much greater tax payment - not to mention a potential tourism boom for local businesses.

By mid-afternoon yesterday, Meany had received two more letters about the project - one from a women in Houston, Texas vowing to visit Weare if the hotel were allowed and another from a man in McMurray, Pa. pledging financial support if town leaders choose to hand Souter's land over to Clements.

Both letter writers signaled their distain for the court's ruling in Kelo vs. City of New London.The case stems from a battle between a group of Connecticut homeowners and a city government that wants to boost tax revenue by replacing a neighborhood with an office complex. The majority opinion, written by Justice John Paul Stevens, said it was up to states, not the federal government, to craft regulations around property. Souter supported Stevens along with justices Anthony Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.

Weare's selectmen planned to review the letters at its meeting last night, and will decide how to proceed, said chairwoman Laura Buono.

"It was an interesting e-mail,"she said.

Even if the five-member board were to endorse Clements's project, zoning laws would have to be changed and the hotel would have to garner approval from the planning board. After that, the project would fall under Meany's watchful eye.

"The big thing is, you have to own the land before you deal with me," he said.




 
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 30, 2005, 04:42:00 pm
Looks like the man trying to take over Supreme Court justice David Souter's New Hampshire home is a Free Stater

If he's a Free Stater, then I'm one happy camper!

But I don't see anything in the article that he is a Free Stater; just that he thinks
Free Staters might like to stay at his proposed hotel (count me in!!!)

Can someone check on this?
If he's not a Free Stater, I volunteer to do whatever sweet-talking it takes to get him on board! :)

-Denis
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 30, 2005, 04:51:57 pm
Looks like the man trying to take over Supreme Court justice David Souter's New Hampshire home is a Free Stater

If he's a Free Stater, then I'm one happy camper!

But I don't see anything in the article that he is a Free Stater; just that he thinks
Free Staters might like to stay at his proposed hotel (count me in!!!)

Can someone check on this?
If he's not a Free Stater, I volunteer to do whatever sweet-talking it takes to get him on board! :)

-Denis


Most of the stories do say that he's a Free Stater; for example:

http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/06302005/maine/50206.htm
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 30, 2005, 05:02:17 pm
Most of the stories do say that he's a Free Stater; for example:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/06302005/maine/50206.htm

Groovy  8)
Thanks Jason!

Now I have just given myself an action item to:
a) find out the names and phone numbers of local TV station program managers here in Nashua, and
b) call them up, and ask them to carry "The Lexington League" (see http://www.freestarmedia.com/support.html)
c) do the same for Redwood City, the community in the imprisoned state of California that I recently fled  ;D
d) post that info here for others to use (hint, hint...)

-Denis
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on July 01, 2005, 11:47:17 am
Send these about the Tax Protest:

http://www.itsallpolitics.com/here-vp88483.html#88483
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=142513#142513
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=418152#post418152
http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=freedom;action=display;num=1120235487;start=0
http://p089.ezboard.com/famericanconservativefrm1.showMessage?topicID=11172.topic

Most had an article about the Souter issue.  I posted on them mentioning that 5 justices but only the one in NH acted about because of the FSP. Most people really want him to lose his house.

Dada.. I have been crazy busy at work but I will start add to those other forums as well.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on July 03, 2005, 09:57:00 pm
Good work Dreepa your threads are really taking off!  I wish we had 5 more folks like you that would make us into a real media outlet!
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Denis Goddard on July 04, 2005, 08:21:26 am
I post to Slashdot pretty much every day; the high traffic of that site, and the strong Libertarian bent of many sefl-described Geeks makes it almost too easy.

Anyway, there was an article about the Columbine tragedy on Shashdot today, and I posted something that I hope resonates well with the Slashdot crowd and maybe points out how important these abstract concepts like "Freedom" are. Please feel free to moderate up or post replies....

http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=154740&cid=12979022
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Mike Lorrey on July 04, 2005, 03:01:45 pm
I've posted the Souter story to the Extropians list, and a friend who is an engineer at Lockheed says that the engineering dept was in giggles all day over it. The engineering dept at Ruger was also similarly entertained.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: freedomroad on July 06, 2005, 12:07:53 pm
I posted about the Souter case to Pledgebank on two different pledges that I joined.  I noticed that other FSP members also posted to at least one of the pledges.  Remember, you don't need to pledge to post.

http://www.pledgebank.com/FarkPartySouter

http://www.pledgebank.com/LostLibHotel



Here is one of the posts below mine-

"Hello all,

I have to admit that I'm new here. Just read all your posts this evening--interesting stuff. I'd just like to say that I'm a reformed-liberal-turned-libertarian who has lived in NH for the past twenty six years, and am now a 'friend of the FSP'. For all you fellow porcupines out there, I believe you'll find a pretty warm reception should you choose to make the move. The folks here generally tend to be very liberty-conscious--we take our license plates seriously :-)"

Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on July 15, 2005, 03:26:34 am

Posted the msg below to following forums:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1443379/posts

NH: Free Staters to protest at Supreme Court Judge's house

This went out to New Hampshire media yesterday: 

Weare, New Hampshire

U.S. Supreme Court Justice David Souter lives at 34 Cilley Hill Rd. in Weare, N.H.
Why do you need to know this?  Because that's where you'll be Sunday, July
17 at 1:00 p.m, those of you who want want to take a stand against his decision to reduce
your property rights. 

Ultimately, you could say there is - or was - an unspoken contract between the people
and their government.  You don't show up at our homes with bulldozers, and we won't
show up at yours with signs.  This month, in the already infamous Kelo vs. New London
decision, the court broke that contract, with David Souter's support.  He
voted with the majority, not merely to allow but to *support* vicious land grabs
against homeowners.

It's beyond our poor power to counter every evil this man has loosed upon us.  But
we *can* rally outside his home to support the efforts of Free Stater Logan Clements,
who has turned the tables on this robed tyrant by asking the city of Weare to let
him demolish the Souter home and build a hotel in its place.   We'll have signs that say
"Give Souter the Booter!"

What:  Protest outside U.S. Supreme Court Justice David Souter's house
When: Sunday, July 17 1:00 - 2:00 PM
Where: 34 Cilley Hill Road, Weare, N.H.
Why: To express our opposition to Souter's ruling against property rights in Kelo vs. New London.  And to support Free Stater Logan Clements' effort to fight back.  Clements has asked the town of Weare to give him Souter's propety so he can build the "Lost Liberty Hotel" there.
Who:  Activists from NHfree.com and whoever wants to come!  Projected turnout: 15
More info at NHfree.com
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Denis Goddard on July 27, 2005, 02:35:19 pm
There's a great thread on Slashdot right now about overzealous Government regulating video games.
Of course, I've chimed in as usual with an FSP-related post :)

http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=157187&cid=13178963

As usual, any follow-ups would be much appreciated, slashdot is a very high-traffic site.
And of course, if anyone has Slashdot mod points at the moment, I'd much appreciate your boostership.

P.S. See y'all at PorcFest!

Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: freedomroad on August 25, 2005, 04:16:59 pm
I posted the following as a bulletins on the Myspace Libertarian Group.

http://groups.myspace.com/myspacelibertarians  if you check out this site, also check out the photos section and you will see two FSP stickers :)

http://bulletin.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bulletin.read&messageID=3079908&groupID=100378589&Mytoken=20050825141241

Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Friday on September 03, 2005, 11:44:28 am
I created a profile for the FSP in the Intentional Community Database at http://icdb.org/index.php .  We're definitely in there now, but for some reason don't come up when you search by words such as "libertarian" or "New Hampshire". Hopefully there's just a time-delay with that. The Port Watson project is in there (libertarians on an island).

edit: It's working now. The FSP comes up on searches for "libertarianism", "capitalism", "private property", and "New Hampshire".  :)
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on September 03, 2005, 09:23:01 pm
thanks for posting these, guys!
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Denis Goddard on September 14, 2005, 09:44:59 pm
I just posted a juicy one to Slashdot... anyone with /. mod points, please, please mod this up!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=162260&cid=13563129

Article:
Video Game Industry to Sue Michigan's Governor

My post:

Quoth the poster:
It's not the Government's place to tell it's population what they can, and can't play. Really, it's gone way the f*** too far.

Well... whose fault is that? Are you sitting on your butt and letting them? Huh?

Folks, please do more than just bitch on Slashdot about how restrictive the U.S. Government has become.

There is a real, active plan to make at least one single U.S. state as Free as possible. Moreover, it's a plan with actual results, in which thousands have signed up, and over a hundred free-market, free-speech, "free-Everything" activists (including myself) have already moved in and are making a difference right now.

It's called the Free State Project [freestateproject.org].


"A Republic... if you can keep it" - B. Franklin
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 18, 2005, 10:12:29 pm
bump
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 19, 2005, 09:44:45 am
Sent this message to the webforums listed at bottom.
As always...could use more folks doing this...

Armed New Hampshirites torch UN flag - again

Keene, New Hampshire
Dec. 18, 2005

Carrying pitchforks, revolvers and pistols, 21 New Englanders came together in southwestern New Hampshire Sunday for the Second Annual UN Flag Burn.   All smiles despite sub-freezing weather, most indicated they are members of NHfree.com, a local offshoot of the Free State Project. 

Demonstrators focused particular scorn on the UN's repeated efforts to support gun bans around the world...But a more subtle goal is to re-inforce New Hampshire's Live Free or Die reputation, drawing additional freedom lovers to move to the state.   New Hampshire has some of the loosest gun laws in America...and a tiny crime rate as the reward.

"This kind of thing helps get the word out," says activist Dave Ridley of Keene.  "If you are a freedom lover, there's a party going on in New Hampshire, and you're missing it." 

Since New Hampshire was chosen as a target for migration by the libertarian Free State Project, about 150 have moved and become increasingly vocal in the state's political process.   It's estimated that the two major parties in-state have only about 1000 hardcore activists each, and the Free Staters tend to be allied with conservatives on most issues.

Photos: http://underground.soulawakenings.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=45
Discussion: http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=1975.0

Details on the migration to New Hampshire:  www.FreeStateProject.org

----

posted above to: 

http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=663330#post663330
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543270/posts
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=15308
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=2562;start=0#lastPost
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=23642#23642
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=4324.0
http://boards.billmaher.com/showthread.php?p=545454#post545454
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=6158
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1042138#1042138
www.protestwarrior.com
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on December 19, 2005, 04:25:09 pm
Dada I will hit 'my list' tonight.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on December 19, 2005, 06:15:03 pm
Posted:
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/here-vp148818.html#148818
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=185066#185066

Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on December 20, 2005, 09:44:35 am
Thanks dreep!  In my mind, posting these messages to the net is even more important than being there so you are way much appreciated..
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 03, 2006, 12:50:31 am
Will be sending the message below to various web forums.   Can any of you help by doing the same?

thus far have sent it to

http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=10332129#10332129
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=gun_rights;action=display;num=1136268552;start=0#0
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1067958#1067958
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=6264
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=2141241#post2141241
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=672279#post672279
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1551147/posts
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=15581
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=2571;start=0#lastPost
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24787#24787
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=4478.0
http://boards.billmaher.com/showthread.php?p=563712#post563712
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=6267
http://www.libertarianunderground.com/Forum/index.php?board=15.0
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=601718#post601718
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conservativecoffeehouse/message/8497
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/44259
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/44259
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheCREST/message/17563
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/showthread.php?t=9953

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New Hampshire bill aims to prevent Katrina-style gun seizures

January 2, 2006
Concord, N.H.

Concerned by perceived abuses of Federal power during the Katrina crisis, New Hampshire state reps are reviewing a bill which would criminalize certain weapons seizures - even if the perpetrators are Federal officers.  House Bill 1639-FN, prohibits the confiscation of lawfully owned and lawfully carried firearms during a state of emergency, making a felon of any law enforcement officer who attempts to seize such a firearm during a disaster.

The bill was sponsored by Rep. Paul Hopfgarten at the request of local Free Staters - members of a group trying to recruit freedom lovers to New Hampshire and turn it into an even more libertarian state than it already is (www.freestateproject.org).

The bill reads:   "Any law enforcement officer, person acting as a law enforcement officer, or other public official who confiscates or attempts to confiscate lawfully carried or lawfully owned firearms in this state during a declared state of emergency
shall be charged with a class A felony."

In the chaos following Hurricane Katrina, various government agencies - including Federal Marshalls - made systematic
attempts to sweep New Orleans of guns - even if that meant entering the homes of law abiding gun owners.  The move did not cause widespread outrage in most states.  But New Hampshire residents reacted by burning a FEMA flag in front of a local Federal building.  They also circulated a petition pledging resistance if such a move were ever attempted in the "Live Free or Die" state....a place where guns are part of the culture and gun laws are the second-loosest in the nation.   

Activists say whether it passes or not, this "Gun Protection Bill" is one more small thing they can do to try and protect themselves from disarmament at the hands of any government, during a time when they believe they will need their weapons most.

Bill text:  http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2006/hb1639.html
Information regarding the date and time of the bill hearing:
http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=2550.0
Media coverage of FEMA flag burn: 
http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050922/REPOSITORY/509220363/1001/NEWS01
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 03, 2006, 06:15:39 pm
I was alerted to this new forum link
http://forumnazis.com/
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: lloydbob1 on January 03, 2006, 06:24:09 pm
I was alerted to this new forum link
http://forumnazis.com/

 8) ;D
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on January 04, 2006, 08:23:04 am
I was alerted to this new forum link
http://forumnazis.com/
Yes I heard you were in charge there. ;)
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 04, 2006, 12:27:23 pm
http://forumnazis.com/
Yes I heard you were in charge there. ;)
We run a pretty tight ship there. Some people have even questioned our "gestapo-like" methods.
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: Dreepa on January 04, 2006, 11:05:26 pm
Posted here and email to several lists:

http://www.itsallpolitics.com/here-vp155595.html#155595
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=190300#190300
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 06, 2006, 07:26:18 pm
other forums worth posting things to:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/index.php
worldaffairsboard.com
uspoliticsonline.com
http://glocktalk.com/
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: politicalGRAFFITI on January 07, 2006, 07:39:18 am
Well they're at it again...

The FREE RADICALs of the New Hampshire Underground are burnin' things precious to the Bureaucrats... again. Last time on the pyre were the Social Slavery Cards.
http://nhfree.politicalgraffiti.com/NHfree-SS_Card_Burn.mov

This time the target of the barbecue treatment is the 'old baby blue' of the UN Flag.

It seems the folks at NHFREE.com take exception to the UN's plans of a 'One World Government' and their stated mission to disarm  the citizens.

This band of 'merry men and women' , get a letter to the editor published in the Keene, NH newspaper, inviting people to come enjoy torching the flag of the one worlders' with them.

"... participants are invited to bring open-carried, lawfully borne firearms, that they may peacefully
celebrate those gun rights which New Hampshire enshrines but the UN seeks to destroy..."
(good job Dave 8) )

Checkout how the Parks Dept.head 'crat attempts to spoil the fun and block the exercise of their rights.

Appropriately the hallowed ground chosen to ROAST the WEENIES is called Robin Hood Park.
Tally ho! checkout the 7 min video
http://nhfree.politicalgraffiti.com/second_annual_UN_Flag_Burn.htm

Help the 'viral video' spread... post this link to other forums  ;)
Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on January 08, 2006, 11:00:07 pm
Roger i have forwarded your message above to all of the thread where I originally posted our UN flag burn announcement, and attributed it to you.  that ok?

Title: Re: Other forums discussing FSP
Post by: RidleyReport on February 15, 2006, 10:19:29 pm
Can't remember if I mentioned this but I have sort of moved this discussion to NHfree.com since there is so much more activity there than here:

http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=2613.0

Of course if you want to keep posting here where I left off that 's great!