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Title: NH Green Party
Post by: JasonPSorens on May 21, 2013, 12:45:41 pm
Does anyone know what's going on with the New Hampshire Green Party? I believe Bill Grennon used to be their webmaster, and he used to frequent this forum. However, I haven't seen anything from him in quite some time. My impression is that the NH Greens are essentially inactive. I can't remember the last time they ran a candidate in a statewide election. If libertarians who are environmentally aware moved into the party, could it be used as a vehicle for sensible, market-oriented environmentalism?
Title: Re: NH Green Party
Post by: Bazil on May 21, 2013, 02:01:42 pm
Market oriented environmentalism?  You have any links describing that?
Title: Re: NH Green Party
Post by: freedomroad on May 21, 2013, 03:16:54 pm
I would like to see a 4th political party (5th if you count the New Hampshire Liberty Party) in New Hampshire to open up the discussion (the marketplace of ideas). There should already been plenty of Green Party like folks in New Hampshire. Ralph Nader did OK in NH in 2000 and the voters of NH are even more socially liberal now then they were when Nader ran for President. In northern and parts of central NH, opposition to Northern Pass is popular. In all of NH, opposition to giant wind mills seem to becoming more and more popular. Greens to campaign on these issues and whatever it is you are suggesting and maybe even beat the Republicans in some parts of NH.
Title: Re: NH Green Party
Post by: MaineShark on May 21, 2013, 03:31:25 pm
Market oriented environmentalism?  You have any links describing that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-market_environmentalism
Title: Re: NH Green Party
Post by: Sam Adams on May 21, 2013, 04:12:06 pm
I would like to see a 4th political party (5th if you count the New Hampshire Liberty Party) in New Hampshire to open up the discussion (the marketplace of ideas). There should already been plenty of Green Party like folks in New Hampshire. Ralph Nader did OK in NH in 2000 and the voters of NH are even more socially liberal now then they were when Nader ran for President. In northern and parts of central NH, opposition to Northern Pass is popular. In all of NH, opposition to giant wind mills seem to becoming more and more popular. Greens to campaign on these issues and whatever it is you are suggesting and maybe even beat the Republicans in some parts of NH.
                        Greens pretty much hide behind epa and gores/Gorbachev lies about pollutants. EPA raised our levels of nuclear contamination after Japans nuclear destruction by 2 times, no complaints from Greens. EPA and unsupreme court rules CO2 as a pollutant which is directly against basic science and is vital to humans existence, no word from Green scientist. Global warming declared nonexistence since 1998 on Earth, no word from eco-people. I can understand why Green Party disbanded, its fraud. Now, my brother and uncle work for the Navy research, want people to understand their part in Electromagnetic energy and explain Super Storms. Look up HAARP...
Title: Re: NH Green Party
Post by: JasonPSorens on May 21, 2013, 09:23:16 pm
http://perc.org/ is a think-tank out west that does free-market environmentalism. I'm maybe even a stitch to the left of PERC on environmental issues, but only a stitch. The environmental movement is multifarious; I know from working in it here in NY. Conservation types are not on board with green energy subsidies, for instance. There are even other libertarians. The Green Party has typically been just the far left of the Democratic Party, but of course that need not be the case.
Title: Re: NH Green Party
Post by: Sam Adams on May 22, 2013, 05:46:19 am
http://perc.org/ is a think-tank out west that does free-market environmentalism. I'm maybe even a stitch to the left of PERC on environmental issues, but only a stitch. The environmental movement is multifarious; I know from working in it here in NY. Conservation types are not on board with green energy subsidies, for instance. There are even other libertarians. The Green Party has typically been just the far left of the Democratic Party, but of course that need not be the case.
                Enjoyed reading a few of PERC articles. Its nice to see a different perspective on these issues vs govt mandates and UN rules over human rights to their environment. As far as water rights and scarcity, US is continuing to destroy hundreds of perfectly built dams throughout the US, in the name of WildLand Act[UN agenda] Look at US WildLand Biodiversity Map. Turning US into massive corridors with most of land limited human useor no-human use. Corporations and Govt and environmentalist are buying this land. Re- wilding America is not for citizens benefits. If 200 dams weren,t removed the Colorado River would still flow to the Pacific, its the water sheds that are being ignored which flows water to the reservoirs and resource is saved and flow controlled. God put man in charge of the environment, not govts or groups of special interest. As far as reintroducing wolves and grizzlies  and protecting other creatures with spots or no spots, its all about controlling the human population, its not about them caring about the animals. Abundant CO2 in the enviroment is essential to plant and animal and human life. Its not a toxin as declared by govt and UN nutjobs. thanks Jason, I will more of PERC
Title: Re: NH Green Party
Post by: Alex Libman on May 22, 2013, 05:07:39 pm
GP is commie to the core (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pillars_of_the_Green_Party)!  (And this is coming from the ex-idiot who voted for David Cobb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cobb) in 2004...)

They're last on the list of parties ranked by degrees of evil (least evil first); behind the Democrats, who in turn are behind the Republicans, who in turn are behind the LP.  (Any explicitly Socialist / Communist party, though there hasn't been a serious one in years, would rank on par with the Greens.)

I don't see what good this vanguardist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguardism) stunt could possibly accomplish, but it will also accomplish a lot of bad: watering down the philosophical integrity of any Free Staters involved.
Title: Re: NH Green Party
Post by: Auspicious Aspect on May 22, 2013, 11:23:50 pm
Does anyone know what's going on with the New Hampshire Green Party? I believe Bill Grennon used to be their webmaster, and he used to frequent this forum. However, I haven't seen anything from him in quite some time. My impression is that the NH Greens are essentially inactive. I can't remember the last time they ran a candidate in a statewide election. If libertarians who are environmentally aware moved into the party, could it be used as a vehicle for sensible, market-oriented environmentalism?

I don't think that the Greens have ever actually been "active" in NH. There were some occasional, random postings, but nothing substantial or sustained.