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Title: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 18, 2011, 12:32:48 pm
We've decided to move to NH within 1 month.  That being said we're planning on staying somewhere (place yet to be determined) and scout from there.  One idea we had was to purchase an RV and scout from there.  How practical will the RV be in the winter is my question if we don't find something before winter begins to set in?

Other options are staying in a hotel or with someone else until we find something suitable but with two children, a dog and four cats that may prove to be difficult.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: ny2nh on August 18, 2011, 01:13:57 pm
You say you are moving in a month. Winter is months away. It generally doesn't even snow until late November...generally.  :o

It will get chilly in September and October, but you should be able to find a place to settle in less time than that.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 18, 2011, 01:31:36 pm
You say you are moving in a month. Winter is months away. It generally doesn't even snow until late November...generally.  :o

It will get chilly in September and October, but you should be able to find a place to settle in less time than that.

Let me be more specific, I haven't spent any time in an RV.  If there is 2' of snow on the ground and 10 degrees outside, does this make the "living out of the RV" idea a bad one?  If the RV sites there are open in the winter then I would assume they take care of the plowing but I would assume they are closed.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Liberty603 on August 18, 2011, 03:09:07 pm
What you describe sounds challenging -  I don't think there are any RV parks in NH that are open year-round. Most RVs are not very well insulated, you would need to get one equipped for winter use and/or do a lot of insulation work. Also, for a family of four (plus pets), even the largest RV might still be a little small as a primary residence.

If you were totally dedicated to the idea, you could probably make it work, but it would probably be a lot easier to visit NH ahead of time to scout things out, get an apartment, line up a job, etc.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 18, 2011, 04:09:36 pm
What you describe sounds challenging -  I don't think there are any RV parks in NH that are open year-round. Most RVs are not very well insulated, you would need to get one equipped for winter use and/or do a lot of insulation work. Also, for a family of four (plus pets), even the largest RV might still be a little small as a primary residence.

If you were totally dedicated to the idea, you could probably make it work, but it would probably be a lot easier to visit NH ahead of time to scout things out, get an apartment, line up a job, etc.

I'm sure it would be a challenge.  That's the scariest part.  The cats would likely live elsewhere and the dog would be in and out.  We like the idea of scouting ahead of time but making multiple trips can get very expensive.  We attended  Porcfest and don't want to make any more trips than necessary.  Very long drive, 2K miles round trip.  I wouldn't imagine that any of the RV's that are in our price range are NH winter ready:)

Not having any where to park the RV is a pretty big deal if they aren't open year round.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: ny2nh on August 18, 2011, 04:25:18 pm
If you have enough $$ for security deposit and 1st month's rent - I am sure you could find an apartment fairly quickly. The pets will make it a little harder, but not impossible. Maybe just you comes ahead of time and finds a place and then you return and the whole family comes out. Not sure where you are moving from, but you can often get fairly cheap airfare into Manchester. OR, you find a month to month apartment prior online and tolerate that until you find a more permanent place.

RV as a plan in the colder months is not what I would do....not with pets and kids. If it were May, then it would work because you would have many months to get settled. The problem with the colder months is there are not many campgrounds open year round...that allows dogs....and then heating can get very expensive very fast...and then there is frozen water, etc. to contend with.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 18, 2011, 05:54:11 pm
If you have enough $$ for security deposit and 1st month's rent - I am sure you could find an apartment fairly quickly. The pets will make it a little harder, but not impossible. Maybe just you comes ahead of time and finds a place and then you return and the whole family comes out. Not sure where you are moving from, but you can often get fairly cheap airfare into Manchester. OR, you find a month to month apartment prior online and tolerate that until you find a more permanent place.




Starting to sound like the RV plan isn't the greatest. We've explored the temporary apt idea but from what we've found they do not allow "aggressive breeds" which our German Shepherd is considered.  Boarding could get expensive. Maybe a post for someone whom could accommodate him would be good.

We enjoy flying but without the molestation and radiation.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Jerry on August 18, 2011, 07:39:06 pm
It is likely to cost you more to heat an RV in the winter in NH than rent for an apartment.

Check out the seacoast.  Off-season rentals are quite reasonable.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: time4liberty on August 19, 2011, 07:07:32 am
Here's one that accepts large dogs (looks lIke it's probably pricy though): http://www.apartmenthomeliving.com/apartment-finder/Wellington-Hill-Manchester-NH-03104-271113.pdf
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: time4liberty on August 19, 2011, 07:15:34 am

A couple more:

http://www.apartmentsforpets.com/apartmentlist.asp?city=Nashua&State=NH
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 19, 2011, 08:54:55 am
Here's one that accepts large dogs (looks lIke it's probably pricy though): http://www.apartmenthomeliving.com/apartment-finder/Wellington-Hill-Manchester-NH-03104-271113.pdf

We'll need something that is furnished and month to month.  So far it looks like CL is our best bet.  Thanks for your assistance!
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: MaineShark on August 19, 2011, 10:32:52 am
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=23792.0
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: 10stateswithnh on August 19, 2011, 11:32:18 am
We've decided to move to NH within 1 month.  

It may be tough to pull off if you have all those pets along with you, but the timing of when you plan to move aligns pretty closely with my Liberty Caravan. If you do drive across the country, we could try to hook up and travel together. Check out the website for the caravan (www.libertycaravan.org (http://www.libertycaravan.org)). The dates when I am planning the caravan for are from Sep 6 - 17 (or maybe just until the 14th as the date to arrive in NH), I will be driving from Utah for this move.


Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: 10stateswithnh on August 19, 2011, 11:34:09 am
It might be warm enough that you could live in the RV for 3 or 4 weeks, so if you find somewhere to park it (but not live in for the winter) then the RV might still make sense.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 19, 2011, 11:49:34 am
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=23792.0

The cl ad is dead. For employment purposes we may try to stay closer to the seacoast as his is where most of the poker rooms are.
Thanks Joe.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 19, 2011, 11:53:33 am
We've decided to move to NH within 1 month.  

It may be tough to pull off if you have all those pets along with you, but the timing of when you plan to move aligns pretty closely with my Liberty Caravan. If you do drive across the country, we could try to hook up and travel together. Check out the website for the caravan (www.libertycaravan.org (http://www.libertycaravan.org)). The dates when I am planning the caravan for are from Sep 6 - 17 (or maybe just until the 14th as the date to arrive in NH), I will be driving from Utah for this move.


All of the cats are new editions. We're attached but have decided it would be easier to find them new homes here. The dog is very low maintenance when traveling. We are in NC so I'm not sure if our paths will cross before we get to far from NH. If thy do then meeting your deadline sounds good. We plan on leaving September 15th 2 or 3 days plus or minus.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 19, 2011, 11:56:16 am
It might be warm enough that you could live in the RV for 3 or 4 weeks, so if you find somewhere to park it (but not live in for the winter) then the RV might still make sense.

We don't have the rv yet. If we were to purchase one we'd like to stay in it for awhile. The purpose of using it would be to offset rental cost and be mobile.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: 10stateswithnh on August 19, 2011, 12:49:29 pm

We are in NC so I'm not sure if our paths will cross before we get to far from NH. If thy do then meeting your deadline sounds good. We plan on leaving September 15th 2 or 3 days plus or minus.

Well, if you travel up the coast we could meet somewhere in NY (or maybe PA if I go via Philadelphia), you're right that would just be the last day of the trip. Still it might be worth considering, esp if I can get anyone else to sign up for this thing.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 19, 2011, 01:11:42 pm

We are in NC so I'm not sure if our paths will cross before we get to far from NH. If thy do then meeting your deadline sounds good. We plan on leaving September 15th 2 or 3 days plus or minus.

Well, if you travel up the coast we could meet somewhere in NY (or maybe PA if I go via Philadelphia), you're right that would just be the last day of the trip. Still it might be worth considering, esp if I can get anyone else to sign up for this thing.


That sounds like a plan.  I'll confirm next week exactly what day we're leaving then go from there. I can pm you or contact you via the website.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: MaineShark on August 19, 2011, 01:17:37 pm
RVing in the winter is possible, in NH.  I know folks who've done it.

RVing in the winter, and having running water, in NH, is not practical.

So you'd need to find a place with bathroom facilities, if you wanted to do that.  And you would potentially need to be running outdoors to use the bathroom, in the middle of blizzards.

It is, technically, possible to have an RV with running water, here, in the winter, but it typically requires modifications to keep the pipes from freezing, and to keep the water pipe in and the waste pipe out, from freezing, as well.

Joe
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: ny2nh on August 19, 2011, 02:11:22 pm
There is a poker room in Milford as well if I am not mistaken.

http://www.apartmentsforpets.com/apartmentdetail.asp?apartment=2655  Countryside Village in Manchester....more reasonable than the links in Nashua.

You want furnished AND month to month AND takes dogs. Anything else??

Some furnished winter places near the beach:

2 BR - $1000 - pets negotiable - lease - avail 10/1
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/2553397448.html

http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/2535145134.html
3BR - $1200 - pets considered - avail 10/2

http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/2532869004.html
3BR - dog OK - $700

You might have to delay your arrival until after 10/1 to find a place at the beach...maybe stay in a motel for a couple of days....and it might just mean calling dozens until you find one that is OK with the German Shepard.


Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 19, 2011, 02:40:05 pm

You want furnished AND month to month AND takes dogs. Anything else??


That is correct.  Thank you for the links!!!
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: Grey on August 19, 2011, 02:45:01 pm
RVing in the winter is possible, in NH.  I know folks who've done it.

RVing in the winter, and having running water, in NH, is not practical.

So you'd need to find a place with bathroom facilities, if you wanted to do that.  And you would potentially need to be running outdoors to use the bathroom, in the middle of blizzards.

It is, technically, possible to have an RV with running water, here, in the winter, but it typically requires modifications to keep the pipes from freezing, and to keep the water pipe in and the waste pipe out, from freezing, as well.

Joe

You've answered my questions.  Yes its doable but doesn't sound practical.  Purchasing the RV then ending up having to stay in a hotel or attain a rental doesn't fit in financially.  Lots of wisdom Joe.  Looking forward to meeting you.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: MaineShark on August 19, 2011, 04:07:39 pm
You've answered my questions.  Yes its doable but doesn't sound practical.  Purchasing the RV then ending up having to stay in a hotel or attain a rental doesn't fit in financially.  Lots of wisdom Joe.  Looking forward to meeting you.

Thanks.

It's certainly do-able, but it's not simple.  If someone was dead-set on RV-ing, it might make sense, but otherwise, it's cheaper and simpler to rent.

Joe
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: 10stateswithnh on August 20, 2011, 04:52:22 pm

We are in NC so I'm not sure if our paths will cross before we get to far from NH. If thy do then meeting your deadline sounds good. We plan on leaving September 15th 2 or 3 days plus or minus.

Well, if you travel up the coast we could meet somewhere in NY (or maybe PA if I go via Philadelphia), you're right that would just be the last day of the trip. Still it might be worth considering, esp if I can get anyone else to sign up for this thing.


That sounds like a plan.  I'll confirm next week exactly what day we're leaving then go from there. I can pm you or contact you via the website.

I think I would like to arrive on the 16th, actually. There is a huge marijuana freedom rally in Boston on the 17th, and though I am not a marijuana user I would like to go to it. I also don't want to drive through Mass during the move if I have any guns, they have draconian rules about transporting them ( I would avoid New Jersey for the same reason, if this is an issue for you). Anyway, I would suggest we try to meet around Albany NY on the 16th, and drive over via Vermont if this schedule works for you.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: MaineShark on August 20, 2011, 08:34:57 pm
I also don't want to drive through Mass during the move if I have any guns, they have draconian rules about transporting them...

I'm not encouraging you to drive through Mass, but FYI, if you're driving on the Interstate, and you have the firearms locked up in the trunk, you're covered by Federal laws.  They have to be locked, inaccessible to the driver, and any ammunition must be separate from the firearms.  You're allowed to make stops for fuel and food, but no extended detours.

Various groups have made up little pamphlets that you can hand to cops.  Or, more importantly, since they won't even know you have guns unless they're searching the vehicle, that can be taped to the cases, so they can't help but see them as soon as they see the gun case.

But the drive over through Vermont is fairly pretty, so that's likely a good idea, anyway...

Joe
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: 10stateswithnh on August 21, 2011, 09:26:54 am

I'm not encouraging you to drive through Mass, but FYI, if you're driving on the Interstate, and you have the firearms locked up in the trunk, you're covered by Federal laws.  They have to be locked, inaccessible to the driver, and any ammunition must be separate from the firearms.  You're allowed to make stops for fuel and food, but no extended detours.


Do they have to be in a locked case, inside the locked trunk, and with the ammunition in a separate locked case inside the trunk? That's what I seem to recall hearing before.
Title: Re: RV'ing in NH while scouting for permanent residence
Post by: MaineShark on August 21, 2011, 09:35:34 am
Do they have to be in a locked case, inside the locked trunk, and with the ammunition in a separate locked case inside the trunk? That's what I seem to recall hearing before.

Pretty much.

I don't think the ammunition actually needs to be in a locked case - just outside the locked case containing the firearms.  But I couldn't swear to it, and I would not suggest doing it otherwise, as they generally need a warrant to open a locked case, but only probable cause to search anything unlocked in a vehicle.

Joe