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Title: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Bryant, DC on June 05, 2010, 10:17:28 pm
Alright everybody, here's my situation.  I was able to get my wife to go along with going to PorcFest, but only for Saturday.  We won't be camping but are going to drive up from our house in the lower lakes region that morning.  I'm hoping to use PorcFest to showcase to her what the Free State Project is about and I'm looking for people to recommend events for us to visit.

A little bit about us: 

I'm a self-described agorist while she is much more of the minarchist persuasion.  We're both Christians so while we support people's right to do what they want as long as they don't harm others, I don't think she would get too excited about things like Topless Tuesday or Buzz's Big Gay Dance Party.

She is interested in some of the self-sufficiency type stuff as well as homeschooling, and alternative medicine so any recomendations along those lines would also be appreciated.  Also, we have a son who will be one year old by then and one on the way so I also want her to see that kid and family-friendly activities are there so we can bring everyone and stay longer next year.

Thanks in advance.

Oh, by the way, what time will the gates be open in the morning?
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on June 06, 2010, 08:14:02 am
http://porcfest2010.com/schedule

Check it out. A lot of work has gone into making that an incredible feature/benefit
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Bryant, DC on June 06, 2010, 03:31:06 pm
Nice!  anybody know if the Alt Expo will be going on as well?
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 06, 2010, 04:31:30 pm
There's also a weekly meetup on Saturday afternoons at 2pm at the Butcher Shop & Fish Market at 97 Lafayette Rd.  I'll be out of town that week, but the food is awesome, and Chad has eight different sandwich deals (with fries) for $2.99.  There's a steak burger, marinated salmon, swordfish, two hot dogs, BBQ pork, beef brisket, etc.  It's probably the cheapest and best food among all of the meetups I've been to, and it's worth going just for the food.
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on June 06, 2010, 04:44:12 pm
There's also a weekly meetup on Saturday afternoons at 2pm at the Butcher Shop & Fish Market at 97 Lafayette Rd.  I'll be out of town that week, but the food is awesome, and Chad has eight different sandwich deals (with fries) for $2.99.  There's a steak burger, marinated salmon, swordfish, two hot dogs, BBQ pork, beef brisket, etc.  It's probably the cheapest and best food among all of the meetups I've been to, and it's worth going just for the food.

What? In Lancaster?
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Dreepa on June 06, 2010, 09:01:29 pm
There's also a weekly meetup on Saturday afternoons at 2pm at the Butcher Shop & Fish Market at 97 Lafayette Rd.  I'll be out of town that week, but the food is awesome, and Chad has eight different sandwich deals (with fries) for $2.99.  There's a steak burger, marinated salmon, swordfish, two hot dogs, BBQ pork, beef brisket, etc.  It's probably the cheapest and best food among all of the meetups I've been to, and it's worth going just for the food.

What? In Lancaster?

I think in Seabrook... so I guess I am confused why it is posted here.

Bryant... I am sure that we can find people she would feel comfortable with... ask for Dreepa I can point some people out that she would 'fit in with'.
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 06, 2010, 09:19:12 pm
Hampton Falls, one minute south of the Route 1-101 junction.  This has become the regular, weekly, southern seacoast meetup for folks who can't afford the gas prices of trips out to Dover or Manch--or the high food prices elsewhere.  Several folks have noted that they came out to the Hampton Falls meetup just to take advantage of the $2.99 sandwich-fries deal.  For folks driving near the ocean, it's a convenient stopover and a good opportunity to meet up with the locals during Porcfest.  Also, the seafood is good, eh.
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on June 06, 2010, 10:24:40 pm
Hampton Falls, one minute south of the Route 1-101 junction.  This has become the regular, weekly, southern seacoast meetup for folks who can't afford the gas prices of trips out to Dover or Manch--or the high food prices elsewhere.  Several folks have noted that they came out to the Hampton Falls meetup just to take advantage of the $2.99 sandwich-fries deal.  For folks driving near the ocean, it's a convenient stopover and a good opportunity to meet up with the locals during Porcfest.  Also, the seafood is good, eh.

You recommend someone coming from the lakes region TO PORCFEST, FOR PORCFEST, drive to the seacoast for a meetup?...

This is ridiculous, Max... absolutely ridiculous. Did you even read the Original Post?

Your blind devotion to the seacoast...
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on June 06, 2010, 10:27:20 pm
Nice!  anybody know if the Alt Expo will be going on as well?

Oh Yes! I dont have a copy of their program yet, but it promises to be better than last year (got to! we're raising the bar!)

Not sure about when they open the gate, but I'd guess sunrise (5am or so)
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 14, 2010, 03:38:44 am
1. I always read the OP.

2. Literally everyone I've heard from coming up for Porcfest this year has indicated some interest in checking out the seacoast.

which kicks ass, btw
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on June 14, 2010, 11:17:35 pm
1. I always read the OP.

2. Literally everyone I've heard from coming up for Porcfest this year has indicated some interest in checking out the seacoast.


I don't think you did, try again

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Alright everybody, here's my situation.  I was able to get my wife to go along with going to PorcFest, but only for Saturday.  We won't be camping but are going to drive up from our house in the lower lakes region that morning. 
I'm hoping to use PorcFest to showcase to her what the Free State Project is about and I'm looking for people to recommend events for us to visit.

I've put the important parts in bold

So you either:

A: read the OP, and think a guy who is driving up to PORCFEST for the day with his wife, from their house in the Lakes Region of NEW HAMPSHIRE,
would REALLY RATHER drive the opposite direction and visit Seabrook instead.

or

B: you skimmed the OP and said "SEACOAST RULES!"
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 14, 2010, 11:40:56 pm
So, basically, you're calling me a liar publicly without no evidence to support it.

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Alright everybody, here's my situation.  I was able to get my wife to go along with going to PorcFest, but only for Saturday.  We won't be camping but are going to drive up from our house in the lower lakes region that morning.  I'm hoping to use PorcFest to showcase to her what the Free State Project is about and I'm looking for people to recommend events for us to visit.

Essentially, even though they clearly have a vehicle, you're stating that a drive to Hampton Falls for a 2-3pm meetup is physically impossible and/or not worth considering--in anyone's opinion.  How long would it take to get from the Lakes to Hampton Falls?  According to googlemaps,

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Suggested routes
NH-16 S
46.1 mi   55 mins
NH-101 E
50.1 mi   1 hour 8 mins

or less than one hour each way.  Of course, everything depends on how one plans their schedules, but if someone asks me about events going on on Saturday, and I know that the weekly Hampton Falls meetup is every Saturday afternoon at 2pm, then I'm going to mention that meetup as an option.  It does not mean that I'm going to plan out their day for them.  If someone just wants to hang around at the campground all day, that's fine with me... and there are some people who choose to do that.

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I don't think you did, try again

is both rude and accusative.  I told you that I read the OP's, and you essentially accused me of lying to everyone on here.  You can either apologize and change your ways or continue being a jerk and making enemies.  On fora that I moderate, I don't allow accusations like this to stand.  The moderators here don't really enforce their own rules, so whatever.

But you don't have to be a jerk to people online.  If you don't want to go to a meetup, then don't.  If you want to turn a question into yet another flame war, go somewhere else.
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: freedomroad on June 14, 2010, 11:44:23 pm
Let's all play nice.  Porcfest rocks!
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Dreepa on June 15, 2010, 06:22:18 am
So, basically, you're calling me a liar publicly without no evidence to support it.



The evidence is in your post about Seabrook when they were asking about Porcfest.
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on June 15, 2010, 09:06:30 am
So, basically, you're calling me a liar publicly without no evidence to support it.

No, I'm giving you the option to ADMIT you are a liar, so as to save face (otherwise people will think you really ARE that stupid)


Quote
Alright everybody, here's my situation.  I was able to get my wife to go along with going to PorcFest, but only for Saturday.  We won't be camping but are going to drive up from our house in the lower lakes region that morning.  I'm hoping to use PorcFest to showcase to her what the Free State Project is about and I'm looking for people to recommend events for us to visit.

Essentially, even though they clearly have a vehicle, you're stating that a drive to Hampton Falls for a 2-3pm meetup is physically impossible and/or not worth considering--in anyone's opinion.  How long would it take to get from the Lakes to Hampton Falls?  According to googlemaps,

Quote
Suggested routes
NH-16 S
46.1 mi   55 mins
NH-101 E
50.1 mi   1 hour 8 mins

or less than one hour each way.  Of course, everything depends on how one plans their schedules, but if someone asks me about events going on on Saturday, and I know that the weekly Hampton Falls meetup is every Saturday afternoon at 2pm, then I'm going to mention that meetup as an option.  It does not mean that I'm going to plan out their day for them.  If someone just wants to hang around at the campground all day, that's fine with me... and there are some people who choose to do that.

Wow, well I guess you wont be saving any face.

It appears you REALLY believe its ok to suggest that folks from the LAKES REGION of NEW HAMPSHIRE,

who are planning to go to PORCFEST FOR THE DAY, INSTEAD GO TO THE SEACOAST....


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I don't think you did, try again

is both rude and accusative.  I told you that I read the OP's, and you essentially accused me of lying to everyone on here.  You can either apologize and change your ways or continue being a jerk and making enemies.  On fora that I moderate, I don't allow accusations like this to stand.  The moderators here don't really enforce their own rules, so whatever.

But you don't have to be a jerk to people online.  If you don't want to go to a meetup, then don't.  If you want to turn a question into yet another flame war, go somewhere else.


I don't know how to make this more plain.

Sane Person: "I want to drive up to PorcFest for the day. I live in the Lakes Region of NEW HAMPSHIRE"

Seacoast Fanatic: "Dude, come check out the Seacoast! Its totally NOT what you want, and in the complete OPPOSITE direction, but who cares what YOU want? The Seacoast rules!"

Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: freedomroad on June 15, 2010, 09:36:31 am
No, I'm giving you the option to ADMIT you are a liar, so as to save face (otherwise people will think you really ARE that stupid)

Please Curtis, don't hint at people being stupid.  Max isn't stupid.  Let's try to be civil. 
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on June 15, 2010, 09:39:29 am
No, I'm giving you the option to ADMIT you are a liar, so as to save face (otherwise people will think you really ARE that stupid)

Please Curtis, don't hint at people being stupid.  Max isn't stupid.  Let's try to be civil. 

If he is not lying, and he is not stupid, then he purposefully being a troll.
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: 10stateswithnh on June 16, 2010, 09:52:14 am
Alright everybody, here's my situation.  I was able to get my wife to go along with going to PorcFest, but only for Saturday.  We won't be camping but are going to drive up from our house in the lower lakes region that morning.  I'm hoping to use PorcFest to showcase to her what the Free State Project is about and I'm looking for people to recommend events for us to visit.

No, I'm giving you the option to ADMIT you are a liar, so as to save face (otherwise people will think you really ARE that stupid)

Please Curtis, don't hint at people being stupid.  Max isn't stupid.  Let's try to be civil. 

If he is not lying, and he is not stupid, then he purposefully being a troll.

How about D.? He messed up?

I have noticed that sometimes when I search for new posts, I don't notice what subforum they are under when I go into the threads. The OP doesn't definitely state that he was only interested in events AT porcfest. He doesn't sound completely firm about going to Porcfest Saturday. I think it is an understandable mistake for Max to make.

I also understand why Curtis is upset here, too, since he has put a lot of work into planning PF and now it seems Max is trying to get someone NOT to go.

I agree that we need to be civil. It's easy to get so set in our point of view that we don't see someone else's.
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on June 16, 2010, 06:21:44 pm
Alright everybody, here's my situation.  I was able to get my wife to go along with going to PorcFest, but only for Saturday.  We won't be camping but are going to drive up from our house in the lower lakes region that morning.  I'm hoping to use PorcFest to showcase to her what the Free State Project is about and I'm looking for people to recommend events for us to visit.

No, I'm giving you the option to ADMIT you are a liar, so as to save face (otherwise people will think you really ARE that stupid)

Please Curtis, don't hint at people being stupid.  Max isn't stupid.  Let's try to be civil. 

If he is not lying, and he is not stupid, then he purposefully being a troll.

How about D.? He messed up?

I have noticed that sometimes when I search for new posts, I don't notice what subforum they are under when I go into the threads. The OP doesn't definitely state that he was only interested in events AT porcfest. He doesn't sound completely firm about going to Porcfest Saturday. I think it is an understandable mistake for Max to make.

I also understand why Curtis is upset here, too, since he has put a lot of work into planning PF and now it seems Max is trying to get someone NOT to go.

I agree that we need to be civil. It's easy to get so set in our point of view that we don't see someone else's.


I gave him the option to admit he messed up. Yet he insisted he fully read and understood the OP.

Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 16, 2010, 08:33:48 pm
Maybe it's time the mods split this thread.  Here are some proposed subject titles:

Yet another needless flame war
Debatatarianism examples for those new to the subject
Yet another endless thread arguing over something that no one could ever resolve
War and Peace II
Would everyone who didn't read the OP please raise their hands...
You down with OPP?
Title: Re: Event recomendations for Saturday
Post by: Dave Mincin on June 16, 2010, 09:12:39 pm
I would highly recommend the Kiddo Olympics at 1pm.  The Keyes are naturals, and last year we had a great time and the kids loved it!  Perhaps stop by the Keyes-Winters campsite afterward for a bite or beverage.

Olympics Helper,
Dave