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Title: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: Walkedaway on May 30, 2010, 07:37:47 pm
Greetings. I currently live in Rockland County NY but I plan on moving to NH in about 5 or 6 years after my youngest leaves for college. I am completely disgusted with what is going on in our great country and am alarmed at what I am hearing from the American people. It now seems that allot of people actually believe that the government is here to "take care of us" , I find that frightening... Politically I'm not sure what party represents me anymore. I have been a registered Conservative since about 94 or 95, before that I was registered as Republican. Lately I have become intrigued by what Ron Paul has to say but don't yet call myself Libertarian (not quite sure what the tenets of Libertarianism are!). Any Libertarian reading list recommendations would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: rossby on May 30, 2010, 07:56:05 pm
Try The Law (http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm). It's a classic.
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: BigJoe on May 30, 2010, 09:00:32 pm
wiki is always a good place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism


some important ideas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle

Negative rights: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_positive_rights


some bare bones:

Pro:   gun rights, Free Trade, personal responsibility, Decentralization of power (i.e. State's rights)
Anti: war, taxes, welfare, bailouts, regulation, drug war

Here is the Platform of the Libertarian Party:  http://www.lp.org/platform


here is a 40 min audio talk titled "an introduction to Libertarianism"   :  http://mises.org/media/1618


Thomas Paine's  "The Rights of Man"  :  http://www.ushistory.org/paine/rights/index.htm

Here is a pdf of Rothbard's The Ethics of Liberty:   http://mises.org/rothbard/ethics.pdf

The Mainspring of Human Progress:  http://mises.org/books/mainspring.pdf

FA Hayek's the Road to Serfdom:   http://www.iea.org.uk/files/upld-publication43pdf?.pdf
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: Walkedaway on May 30, 2010, 09:12:59 pm
Outstanding. I just ordered "The Law" on Amazon and Tom Paine's Right of Man already sits on my desk at work. Thanks!
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: rossby on May 30, 2010, 09:54:40 pm
Outstanding. I just ordered "The Law" on Amazon and Tom Paine's Right of Man already sits on my desk at work. Thanks!

The Law, being very old now, is freely available online. However, nothing beats having a paper copy. I've gone through a good number. They always seem to be loaned out and never returned...

There's a decent book titled Free to Choose by Milton Friedman. Worth checking out too.

And, of course, read the classics... ;)
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: elkingrey on May 31, 2010, 03:18:36 am
Honestly, anything by Ron Paul and you can't lose. If you're not in love with Ron Paul right now, then you should definitely read one of his books and I guarantee you will be. Seriously, Ron Paul.
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: maybesomeday on May 31, 2010, 01:57:43 pm
Try The Law (http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm). It's a classic.

Thanks for the link.  It was a good read with a lot of great ideas.  Bastiat talks about law being the result of the right to defend oneself.  This justification for the existence of a collective force against injustice seems plausible,  but does he address in any of his other works how the force ought to be provided/funded?
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: BigJoe on May 31, 2010, 02:51:59 pm
another relatively short 'classic' is Leonard Read's I, Pencil  :  http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/I,_Pencil

Read later founded the Foundation for Economic Education  :   http://fee.org/

Some other notable Libertarian Think Tanks:

The Future of Freedom Foundation (Fairfax, Virginia):  http://www.fff.org/
Hoover Institution (Stanford):  http://www.hoover.org/
The Fraser Institute (Canada): http://www.fraserinstitute.org/
Reason (LA): http://reason.org/
The Independent Institute (Oakland):  http://www.independent.org/
Cato (DC): http://www.cato.org/
Pacific Research Institute (San Fran): http://www.pacificresearch.org/

Ludwig Von Mises Institute (Auburn):  http://www.mises.org/


Some other good resources:

http://www.econlib.org/

http://libertarianpapers.org/
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: BigJoe on May 31, 2010, 03:32:45 pm
Some more reading:

good intro and 'essential' stuff:

Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson :  http://jim.com/econ/

Rothbard's  What Has Government Done to Our Money? : http://mises.org/books/whathasgovernmentdone.pdf





Some more current and 'pop' libertarian writing:

Peter Schiff's How an Economy Grows and Why it Crashes : http://www.amazon.com/How-Economy-Grows-Why-Crashes/dp/047052670X

Tom Wood's Meltdown : http://www.amazon.com/Meltdown-Free-Market-Collapsed-Government-Bailouts/dp/1596985879

And Ron Paul's  End the FED and The Revolution :

http://www.amazon.com/End-Fed-Ron-Paul/dp/0446549193

http://www.ronpaul.com/books/the-revolution-a-manifesto/
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: Floridian on May 31, 2010, 07:31:47 pm
Richard Maybury: What Ever Happened to Penny Candy? and  What Ever Happened To Justice?
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: rossby on May 31, 2010, 08:48:40 pm
Try The Law (http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm). It's a classic.

Thanks for the link.  It was a good read with a lot of great ideas.  Bastiat talks about law being the result of the right to defend oneself.  This justification for the existence of a collective force against injustice seems plausible,  but does he address in any of his other works how the force ought to be provided/funded?

Off-hand, the only thing I recall him writing was that the only a "common police force" was necessary. Now, I might disagree with that somewhat. But the scarcity of treatment shows he didn't really treat the how to do it, so much as why you should not mess around with so many taxes. If there is anything more on the topic, I'm not currently aware of it.

Bastiat was a legislator and his writings exist largely to criticize the contemporaneous explosion of socialism in France. He was not one of the French writers who was trying to craft the "ideal society" from the ground up.
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: CurtHowland on June 03, 2010, 10:41:22 am
B.D., you reminded me of a blog posting which I think might become a good introduction to the basic philosophies involved:

http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-we-got-here-is-failure-to.html

Being a blog post makes it some what more "entertaining" than a pure philosophical text.

There's also the YouTube channels for Mises and the Future of Freedom Foundation,

http://www.youtube.com/user/FutureFreedomF

http://www.youtube.com/user/misesmedia

Can't over-state the benefits of seeing these people give their presentations live, for the body language (except for Dough French who doesn't seem to have any). :^)
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: rossby on June 03, 2010, 02:07:28 pm
B.D., you reminded me of a blog posting which I think might become a good introduction to the basic philosophies involved:

http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-we-got-here-is-failure-to.html

I had a post a while back--I think here--about the usage of constrained and unconstrained. Notably, that it's a false dichotomy introduced for simplification only. And, just like that blogger does, it becomes very easy to forget that it's just a simplification, and it's not so easy to lump every person on every issue into Column A or Column B.

... and, if Sowell could do it over, I wish he would've named the categories something more like Realistic and Aspirational. Largely, because the self-described adherents of the unconstrained vision, well, delight in the fact that they are "enlightened", their vision of humanity unconstrained by the barbaric unpleasantries that constrain all those cave-man-like thinkers.
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: CurtHowland on June 04, 2010, 06:08:38 pm
Notably, that it's a false dichotomy introduced for simplification only.

That is very interesting, because I've noticed that those to whom I "simply cannot get through", like this TZ character on YouTube,

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=9MEKyJEn0Wk

...have invariably been textbook cases of "unconstrained" thinking.

Thanks for the correction, though, I will take some time and get to know the idea better.
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: rossby on June 04, 2010, 07:02:21 pm
For every person in the world, it is not so easy to put them in one column or the other Even though some people might be very easy to pigeonhole.
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: Trader Will on June 04, 2010, 07:56:48 pm
Intellectuals and Society by Thomas Sowell, might be the smartest guy on the planet. I like Economics in One Lesson too, by Henry Hazlitt. I stay sharp with economics because that's where big government lefties are weak, and free market economics is the best way to battle their emotion based arguments. Walter E. Williams is the man too, tune in to the Rush Limbaugh show when he subs, plus he props the FSP which is great.   :)
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on July 31, 2010, 11:33:13 pm
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Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: Ben74 on August 25, 2010, 05:16:05 pm
F.A. Hayek - The road to serfdom

Milton Friedman - Capitalism and freedom

Robert Nozick - Anarchy, state and utopia

John Stuart Mill - On Liberty

Adam Smith - The Wealth of Nations
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: BigJoe on August 26, 2010, 10:48:22 pm
Hate to break it to ya, but that is like the Wine Cooler or Michelob Ultra of Libertarian reading lists. Fine if thats your thing, but in case you didn't know, there are higher proof options. Lets throw in some shots of Freedom Whiskey!


F.A. Hayek - The road to serfdom

decent. but came away thinking its overhyped.  Hayek defends welfare and socialized medicine in TRTS.  It mostly just argues against complete central planning, bid deal, even regular old Republicans are against that

Milton Friedman - Capitalism and freedom

decent, but why not David Friedman - Machinery of Freedom

Robert Nozick - Anarchy, state and utopia

Murray Rothbard - Ethics of Liberty  (specifically ch. 29 in terms of a response to A,S, & U http://mises.org/daily/2650  )

John Stuart Mill - On Liberty


http://defenseofcapitalism.blogspot.com/2009/10/john-stuart-mill-and-dangers-to-liberty.html


Adam Smith - The Wealth of Nations

Murray Rothbard - Economic Thought Before Adam Smith

http://mises.org/daily/2012
Title: Re: Recommended Libertarian reading list?
Post by: nialwakura on August 30, 2010, 01:00:58 am
I would recommend reading the majority of texts at C4SS:

http://c4ss.org/

And anything at the blogs of some prominent Libertarian / Anarchist bloggers:

http://aaeblog.com/ - Roderick Long, Professor of Libertarian Studies; Auburn University

http://sheldonfreeassociation.blogspot.com/ - Sheldon Richman, writer for numerous publications, regularly by The Freeman

http://radgeek.com/ - Charles Johnson (lot of link sharing)

http://liberalaw.blogspot.com/ - Gary Chartier

I'm not as familiar with Johnson or Chartier because I haven't been reading them as long as Richman or Long. I also think Long is the best because all of his analyses are thorough yet incredibly easy to understand, but that's, of course, subjective.