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Title: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: Kamekazi Seagull on March 11, 2010, 02:37:50 am
I am still up in the air as to whether I should camp out at Rogers or book a motel room.  I'd prefer to camp to tell you the truth, but I don't want to bring anything more than 1 piece of luggage and 1 backpack.  I will be staying at PorcFest than an additional 3 days at a hotel in Manchester.  Will it be really troublesome to fly with my camping supplies?  I do alot of day hiking here in So Cal, so besides adding a tent, sleeping bag and sleeping mat to my supplies- what else would I need?
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: greap on March 11, 2010, 03:00:21 am
I am still up in the air as to whether I should camp out at Rogers or book a motel room.  I'd prefer to camp to tell you the truth, but I don't want to bring anything more than 1 piece of luggage and 1 backpack.  I will be staying at PorcFest than an additional 3 days at a hotel in Manchester.  Will it be really troublesome to fly with my camping supplies?  I do alot of day hiking here in So Cal, so besides adding a tent, sleeping bag and sleeping pad to my supplies- what else would I need?

I have done a double of dozen flights (both domestic and international) with camping supplies without much trouble. I normally just use the straps to secure by bag, mat and tent, carabiner to keep things sliding and it does fine. Do not pack any form of stove fuel, even hex tabs, or you will end up having a conversation with DHS :-)
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: soy.lor.n on March 15, 2010, 01:13:44 pm
You could probably also find someone else who is driving who could bring an extra tent and rent it for a small fee, or something like that...
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: Kate on March 22, 2010, 03:20:51 pm
I would pack rain gear.  New Hampshire gets quite a bit of rain compared to SoCal.  We normally get a few rain showers over the course of the week.
The campground does have a laundromat so you can pack less clothes and plan on doing laundry. 
There is a small store on site with a very limited selection of goods.
Lancaster and Littleton each have small independent hiking/camping supply stores.  Both tend to carry higher end goods.
There is a supermarket and drug stores in Lancaster about 2 miles or so from Rogers.

You may consider shipping some of your gear back and forth.  The cost difference between checking an extra bag on a airplane and shipping it is shrinking.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: 10stateswithnh on March 24, 2010, 07:11:48 am
I have been concerned about this as well - I was thinking about just buying cheap tent, 2 sleeping bags (a brother coming with me), etc after arriving in NH, then seeing if I could leave them with someone, but now I am wondering if I shouldn't just check them on the plane. Is there anyone there in NH storing used camping supplies for people flying in to camp? I'm not bringing a backpack, what would be the best way to arrange/organize them in order to minimize the cost of checking the bags?
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: freedomroad on March 24, 2010, 12:18:15 pm
I have been concerned about this as well - I was thinking about just buying cheap tent, 2 sleeping bags (a brother coming with me), etc after arriving in NH, then seeing if I could leave them with someone, but now I am wondering if I shouldn't just check them on the plane. Is there anyone there in NH storing used camping supplies for people flying in to camp? I'm not bringing a backpack, what would be the best way to arrange/organize them in order to minimize the cost of checking the bags?

Maybe buy a cheap tent in NH.  Buy a couple cheap sleeping bags too.  Try to sell or give them away before you leave.  Or stay in NH and keep them :)
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: 10stateswithnh on March 24, 2010, 03:42:20 pm
Great idea, Keith. Unfortunately, for financial and family reasons I can't move until 2011.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: ny2nh on March 24, 2010, 04:18:11 pm
We have Walmart out here....
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: Dreepa on March 24, 2010, 05:35:45 pm
We have Walmart out here....
with no sales tax.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: ny2nh on March 24, 2010, 07:58:35 pm
We have Walmart out here....
with no sales tax.
Ant they have tents and rain gear and all sorts of camping stuff.

What you can't carry, you can just grab here and give away when you leave cheap enough.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: MK on March 25, 2010, 08:43:07 am
We have Walmart out here....
with no sales tax.

 :)
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: dalebert on March 25, 2010, 11:18:12 pm
A bunch of camping supplies, including a really decent tent can be had at Walmart for about the price of one night in a hotel. Then the site is really cheap. A whole week costs about as much as a cheap hotel room.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: rossby on March 25, 2010, 11:29:15 pm
We have Walmart out here....
with no sales tax.

Ha! When I was up there last month, I bought a diet coke, $1. Gave the cashier a $5. He didn't hand me back any change! The bastard.

"We don't have sales tax here."

"Oh yeah."

Pause. Standing there awkwardly. Still waiting for him to hand me the change, the idea of lack of sales tax having not sunk in yet.

"Oh... alright then!"

Hurray for operant conditioning!
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: 10stateswithnh on March 28, 2010, 02:49:06 pm
A bunch of camping supplies, including a really decent tent can be had at Walmart for about the price of one night in a hotel. Then the site is really cheap. A whole week costs about as much as a cheap hotel room.

Very true. I am looking forward to no sales tax while out there. And I happen to know there is a Walmart over in Berlin, in case I don't make it to one farther south.

Now I have to decide how many nights to camp at Rogers, before reserving a site. My original thought was to spend Tues night in Manchester, Wed on the coast, camp from Thurs - Sun, Sunday night in Keene, and then back in Manchester Mon night before flying back - the camping is cheap but I don't want to drive back and forth from Lancaster - and I do want to visit these other parts of the state. Of course, I may wind up flying into a different airport - for instance Portland which might be cheaper for some flights, which might change things for the first and last night.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: Kate on March 30, 2010, 04:41:07 pm
Portland ME airport is about a 3 hour drive from Lancaster.

There is also a Walmart in Littleton which is closer than Berlin.
Kate
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: rabbit20 on March 30, 2010, 06:36:11 pm
Portland ME airport is about a 3 hour drive from Lancaster.

There is also a Walmart in Littleton which is closer than Berlin.
Kate

If the flight is cheaper then I may go that route...would anyone be willing to pick me up?
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: Kate on April 03, 2010, 11:44:31 am
For most people Portland is way out of the way. 
It may be cheaper to get a flight to Boston and take a buss to Manchester and have someone meet you there. 
If you are bringing a firearm to NH you are better off getting a flight to NH and don't try to go through Mass. 
Because you would be breaking Mass state laws.  I don't know about Maine.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: rabbit20 on April 03, 2010, 10:29:35 pm
For most people Portland is way out of the way. 
It may be cheaper to get a flight to Boston and take a buss to Manchester and have someone meet you there. 
If you are bringing a firearm to NH you are better off getting a flight to NH and don't try to go through Mass. 
Because you would be breaking Mass state laws.  I don't know about Maine.

No I am not going to bring any firearms...dont have a case for my rifle that I would trust going through baggage. And the flights look the same in price...about 20 bucks difference from a quick search.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: 10stateswithnh on April 04, 2010, 04:41:49 pm
For most people Portland is way out of the way. 
It may be cheaper to get a flight to Boston and take a buss to Manchester and have someone meet you there. 
If you are bringing a firearm to NH you are better off getting a flight to NH and don't try to go through Mass. 
Because you would be breaking Mass state laws.  I don't know about Maine.

I will be renting a car at the airport, so for me Boston is out of the question - I have zero interest in trying to drive there. My brother and I would enjoy being in Maine, as we lived there for quite some time, but have not been in the state for 11 years.

I only have rifles, and can't imagine trying to bring them on an airplane, especially for a 1-week visit.
When I move out I will bring them in my car - are you saying I can't even drive through the state of Massachusetts with them? I thought it was legal in every state if they are unloaded, broken down, hopefully no requirement about locking them up (I am also thinking of New Jersey as another state with very restrictive travel laws about guns).
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: Kate on April 07, 2010, 05:39:29 pm
Where are you moving from?  It sounds like you are coming from the south east part of the country if you are
talking about driving through NJ and Mass.

I moved from Richmond Virginia.   I drove up through Pennsylvania, upstate NY and Vermont to get to NH.
Less unfriendly gun states,tolls and traffic then driving up 95.

When you are traveling through a state and not visiting it you fall under federal laws.
Some states don't care and will arrest you for not following their laws.
If you are going to travel with firearms it is best to look up all the laws in the states you are going through.

Keep a copy of the Federal laws in your glove box and pack your firearms accordingly.  Read and follow them.

The basics are they need to be unloaded in a locked container and the ammo in a separate container.  They should be in the trunk or the
very back of your vehicle out of reach of the passengers.  Under all the other luggage is best.

Airlines do have procedures for checking firearms in checked luggage on planes.  You need to be legally able to have the firearm in the beginning and end destinations.
If you have a lay over do not accept your baggage from the airline.  If you do you will fall under the local jurisdictions laws.  Most big city airports are in jurisdictions that ban firearms.
Check all applicable laws and airline polices before traveling  with a firearm.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: maxxoccupancy on April 07, 2010, 08:58:47 pm
I almost always advise folks to just fly in through Manchester.  I've found that it's cheaper than Boston-Logan, anyway, and southwest.com usually has good deals flying into MHT.

You should also consider driving up, especially if you can make the drive within 24 hours.  If worse comes to worse, you can sleep in your car.  You can carry more gear, see more of the state, and get a lot more done from your car than you can waiting at the airport for a ride... worse, renting a car.  If you want cheap lodging for a liberty event, porcmanor.com

I view Wal*Mart as a corporate welfare queen and a last resort.  If some local store has something, I buy it from them.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: 10stateswithnh on May 11, 2010, 07:47:36 am
I haven't been able to buy plane tickets yet as my brother needs to have his passport approved so he can fly. We applied together and I just got mine - but he didn't have all the normal ID stuff, never had a state ID of any kind, so it's still up in the air if he'll even be able to come.

Where we fly in will be all about the price - I would prefer Manchester too but if it is cheaper elsewhere I will consider Portland more desirable than Boston.

We are coming from Utah/Colorado and I only have 1 week off from work so driving is really not much of an option, especially since my brother doesn't drive.

You're probably right about Walmart but I don't care enough to make a trip elsewhere, since I work there, at least for now. Edit: what I meant to say is that I have other priorities and choose other battles for personal and economic reasons, not that I don't care that Walmart receives government protection and aid and lobbies for benefits mandates in order to hurt their competition. It's not a "great" place for someone believing in liberty to work, although marginally better than working FOR the government, but I like the benefits and especially the ability to transfer anywhere in the country, at least theoretically (I've heard some areas of the country they don't accept transfers). I plan to gain more education and job skills so I will be able to move ahead, as soon as I am finished paying off debt (probably 6 more months tops). I need to work on developing a career plan for my life - something I have not really done yet to this point in my life. For now, working for Walmart works for me. Someday I will develop better options, I am sure of that. I want to figure out what to do with the rest of my life, but right now I don't know. Someday I will be able to afford to avoid the big corporations, if they don't completely kill small business.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: Delaware2 on May 12, 2010, 01:16:56 pm
Regarding shipping the tent, last year I paid $70.- to ship a 4-person dome tent, mat and sleeping bag.

From Kansas, UPS. 

Perhaps less than or close to what the airline would charge.

But today's new tents are pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Packing camping supplies for air travel
Post by: 10stateswithnh on May 13, 2010, 07:06:11 pm
Delaware2, it sounds like it would be cheaper to buy them there if it costs $70 to ship.
I am leaning this direction especially if I can find someone to either take them or store them for me afterwards.

It now appears my brother cannot come with me, the passport application having been turned down for lack of proper ID (how is someone over 21 supposed to get their *first* state ID - he doesn't drive). He's going to try again with the state of Colorado, maybe they'll stretch the rules about a statement from a parent which is supposed to be for a person under 21, and he is 21, because our Mom is going with him this time. If he is lucky and gets it quickly, he might still be able to come with me (update: he is definitely not coming).

If he doesn't come with me I would probably not rent a car and so would be unable to give rides from the airport (unless the other person is willing to split the rental cost).

If I do rent a car I could give 1-3 people a ride from whichever airport I fly into (depending on amount of luggage and if my brother comes).

Update: I am flying in Wed June 23, decided to rent a car even though I will be alone, and am offering rides up Wed from Manchester and back on Sunday (I have room for 3-4 passengers depending on the amount of luggage).
Please PM me if you are interested, with your details.