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Title: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Surrealpolichick on January 05, 2009, 10:55:25 pm
Happy 2009!

Gigantic drum roll.... Porc Fest 2009 will return to Rogers Campground in Lancaster and will take place Thurs June 25- Sun June 28, 2009 for "official" programming (but people are free to start camping & reveling in the week leading up to that).

Extra wonderful goodies:
1. communal meals OK and we'll have use of grill in picnic area (seats 100+) which is next to a big field, and kitchen in main hall (seats 100+), if we like (people who would like to take the lead on planning and managing certain meals, pls. email me)
2. use of 4 halls where we can have talks, show movies, hold game nights etc...
3. fun tent with donated booze OK (keeping in mind that there is quiet time after 11pm) - the picnic hall is far away from the campsites, and so this might be a possible venue?

I will post more details later in the week but wanted to get the good news out so long. If you're interested in volunteering, please email me at  surrealpolichick@gmail.com to join the Google group where we will be actively planning things.

Finally, a special thanks to Peacemaker for putting the feelers out...





Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Dreepa on January 05, 2009, 10:59:10 pm
ha...look at me with a post minutes after the announcement.

Someone call Porc411.

:)
THanks!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: "Hagrid" on January 05, 2009, 11:05:42 pm
Bleh.  What a waste.  >:(
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: sj on January 05, 2009, 11:30:45 pm
Yay!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: JaqEboy on January 05, 2009, 11:44:45 pm
dueling Seths - cool!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: shyfrog on January 05, 2009, 11:57:12 pm
I'm in Utah visiting my kids right now. I just told them. My ears hurt now. (yays all around)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Puke on January 06, 2009, 06:24:27 am
An excellent choice.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on January 06, 2009, 07:07:23 am
Yes!  I may go.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Porcupine Realtor on January 06, 2009, 07:43:50 am
Great news!  I've heard that they are way more accommodating and appreciative than Gunstock -- and Roger's is privately owned.   ;D

Good work, Carla.  Thanks for your efforts.

Here's the link to check out the venue and make reservations:  http://rogerscampground.com/ (http://rogerscampground.com/)  The manager is on vacation through May and only takes phone calls a few days a week, but you can leave a message or send an email.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: "Hagrid" on January 06, 2009, 07:53:10 am
Great news!  I've heard that they are way more accommodating and appreciative than Gunstock

Not in my experience.  They didn't care enough to keep us happy, which is why we moved in the first place.
Gunstock was NOT perfect, by any means... but Roger's is no better, and worse in ways we cannot do anything about, such as location.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: ny2nh on January 06, 2009, 08:07:03 am
Great news!  I've heard that they are way more accommodating and appreciative than Gunstock

Not in my experience.  They didn't care enough to keep us happy, which is why we moved in the first place.
Gunstock was NOT perfect, by any means... but Roger's is no better, and worse in ways we cannot do anything about, such as location.


Maybe Roger's will be far more accommodating this year knowing that we did move it to someplace else...and would do that again if not satisfied again.

Let's just make the best of it.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: FTL_Ian on January 06, 2009, 11:28:54 am
This sounds great!  I'm looking forward to experiencing Rogers, as I've never been and Gunstock blows. 

About this "quiet time" stuff - the Fun Tent should be surrounded by campgrounds populated by people who don't care about "quiet time" so any other Rogers' patrons (who could be offended) are as far as possible from it.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Slim on January 06, 2009, 11:40:16 am
I do think that the FSP having Porcfest at Gunstock is a bit of hypocrisy. There was even a blog post/article about the hypocrisy. I was not able to go to last years porcfest due to health reasons but I was sickened when I heard what happened to the fun tent and the cops showing up.

I realize that Rogers is not centrally located in the state but NH is not that large of a state and you can drive across it in a matter of hours.

Also would someone please tell me what Rogers did to make the FSP think they did not care about the group gathering? If it is bad enough then I could change my opinion about Rogers

  
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: MK on January 06, 2009, 12:09:39 pm
Great news!  I've heard that they are way more accommodating and appreciative than Gunstock

Not in my experience.  They didn't care enough to keep us happy, which is why we moved in the first place.
Gunstock was NOT perfect, by any means... but Roger's is no better, and worse in ways we cannot do anything about, such as location.


OK, I thinik we've heard enough of your NEGATIVE comments on this.  IF you want to continue, please start a new thread where you can whine and complain all you want.  But on this thread, we've got the serious business of FUN, being planned in a LARGE way and we have no room for anymore of YOUR (i haven't heard of anyone else unhappy with the decision) NEGATIVE VIBES on this.  Thanks for understanding, give it chance and I still want to buy you that beer at Rogers!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Porcupine The Godful Heathen on January 06, 2009, 12:43:21 pm
An excellent choice.

Agreed! 8) It'll be great to go back again.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Liberty603 on January 06, 2009, 01:14:28 pm
This is great news. Thanks to those who made it happen.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on January 06, 2009, 08:35:42 pm
I for one am certainly glad it got moved to Rogers—or, more accurately, that it got moved from Gunstock.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Daniel Patrick on January 08, 2009, 09:47:42 am
This will be my family's first Porc Fest!  What kind of discount do FSP members get?  I'm considering a cabin rental.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on January 08, 2009, 10:12:57 am
In the past the FSP got deals on the tentsites. I don't know what arrangements have been made this year. They should have booked all of the cabins.


http://www.rogerscampground.com/
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: freedomroad on January 08, 2009, 11:58:25 am
This will be my family's first Porc Fest!  What kind of discount do FSP members get?  I'm considering a cabin rental.

Since the cabins are likely gone, I suggest a hotel room and I'm not sure if we ever get discounts on those.  I've seen several people camp (use tents) with very little children so that is also an option :)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Dave Mincin on January 08, 2009, 12:49:05 pm
The initial PorcFest at Rogers included a half price discount on cabins, RV sites, motel rooms and Campsites...Sunday-Wednesday, if you booked the weekend.  The event was all week.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Porcupine Realtor on January 08, 2009, 10:47:42 pm
There is a generous 10% discount given on all reservations made prior to May 1st.  Go through the Rogerscampground.com website and specify that you are with PorcFest.

See you there!

Mark Warden
Porcupine Realtor
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Surrealpolichick on January 08, 2009, 11:08:30 pm
This will be my family's first Porc Fest!  What kind of discount do FSP members get?  I'm considering a cabin rental.

Yay! We're glad you guys are coming. 10% off, if you call and book before May 1 (not available online). It's off-season now, so leave a message at Rogers at 603-788-4885, and they will get back to you (although it might take a few days). Look forward to meeting you and your family!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Surrealpolichick on January 08, 2009, 11:13:49 pm
This sounds great!  I'm looking forward to experiencing Rogers, as I've never been and Gunstock blows. 

About this "quiet time" stuff - the Fun Tent should be surrounded by campgrounds populated by people who don't care about "quiet time" so any other Rogers' patrons (who could be offended) are as far as possible from it.

Cool, glad you're excited because I couldn't STAND the radio silence on the, er, radio. ;-) I've got an email in to the owners to see where might be the perfect spot for the fun tent/how to arrange no noise hassles... One possibility is to take over the picnic hall, but that might be a little too big (seats about 100+) but it's "far" (like a minute or two walk) away and could make a good base camp now that I hear we're bringing in strippers.

That's a JOKE, people. Jeez.  ::)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Keyser Soce on January 09, 2009, 12:33:44 am
This sounds great!  I'm looking forward to experiencing Rogers, as I've never been and Gunstock blows. 

About this "quiet time" stuff - the Fun Tent should be surrounded by campgrounds populated by people who don't care about "quiet time" so any other Rogers' patrons (who could be offended) are as far as possible from it.

Cool, glad you're excited because I couldn't STAND the radio silence on the, er, radio. ;-) I've got an email in to the owners to see where might be the perfect spot for the fun tent/how to arrange no noise hassles... One possibility is to take over the picnic hall, but that might be a little too big (seats about 100+) but it's "far" (like a minute or two walk) away and could make a good base camp now that I hear we're bringing in strippers.

That's a JOKE, people. Jeez.  ::)

Thanks for the idea. Strippers, poker and paintball. Is there anything else I should be arranging?
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: FTL_Ian on January 09, 2009, 10:58:00 am
This sounds great!  I'm looking forward to experiencing Rogers, as I've never been and Gunstock blows. 

About this "quiet time" stuff - the Fun Tent should be surrounded by campgrounds populated by people who don't care about "quiet time" so any other Rogers' patrons (who could be offended) are as far as possible from it.

Cool, glad you're excited because I couldn't STAND the radio silence on the, er, radio. ;-) I've got an email in to the owners to see where might be the perfect spot for the fun tent/how to arrange no noise hassles... One possibility is to take over the picnic hall, but that might be a little too big (seats about 100+) but it's "far" (like a minute or two walk) away and could make a good base camp now that I hear we're bringing in strippers.

That's a JOKE, people. Jeez.  ::)

Not according to the rumors...  Anyway, there was smoking in the fun tent, so if an indoor facility would have a problem with that, it should again be outdoors as last year.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Porcupine The Godful Heathen on January 09, 2009, 11:14:09 am
Thanks for the idea. Strippers, poker and paintball. Is there anything else I should be arranging?

Now there's some ideas for a freedom oriented event!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: MK on January 09, 2009, 11:43:37 am
This sounds great!  I'm looking forward to experiencing Rogers, as I've never been and Gunstock blows. 

About this "quiet time" stuff - the Fun Tent should be surrounded by campgrounds populated by people who don't care about "quiet time" so any other Rogers' patrons (who could be offended) are as far as possible from it.

Cool, glad you're excited because I couldn't STAND the radio silence on the, er, radio. ;-) I've got an email in to the owners to see where might be the perfect spot for the fun tent/how to arrange no noise hassles... One possibility is to take over the picnic hall, but that might be a little too big (seats about 100+) but it's "far" (like a minute or two walk) away and could make a good base camp now that I hear we're bringing in strippers.

That's a JOKE, people. Jeez.  ::)

Not according to the rumors...  Anyway, there was smoking in the fun tent, so if an indoor facility would have a problem with that, it should again be outdoors as last year.

I agree about having the Fun Tent Outdoors.  It's Summertime in NH and there's nothing like being outdoors (besides, setting up a tent up indoors is pain, especially driving the stakes through the flooring).
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on January 09, 2009, 01:03:56 pm
You could loose you deposit for that!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: dalebert on January 09, 2009, 02:20:50 pm
Surreal, did you ask about reserving a chunk of campsites in the NE corner to establish a boundary and then having the fun tent in the furthest NE campsite? People could then sublease those sites from Jason. I would be glad to be on one of those sites. I consider proximity to the fun tent to be a convenience.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: ny2nh on January 09, 2009, 02:41:06 pm
Carla has said she really doesn't plan to check the forums often and she suggested that those interested in help plan sign up for the google group she set up: porcfest09
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: frankwtodd on January 09, 2009, 05:16:51 pm
Well, I've put in for my reservation of a room at Rogers! Hopefully I won't have a family emergency days before like last year. I am super excited!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: HelmholtzWatson on January 09, 2009, 06:00:33 pm
sonya and i are almost definitely coming. we're looking forward to meeting you all finally!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Surrealpolichick on January 09, 2009, 06:08:11 pm
Surreal, did you ask about reserving a chunk of campsites in the NE corner to establish a boundary and then having the fun tent in the furthest NE campsite? People could then sublease those sites from Jason. I would be glad to be on one of those sites. I consider proximity to the fun tent to be a convenience.


hey dale... probably makes sense for you guys to take the lead on this yourself. I.e. if you want to create a buffer zone (great idea!) you should go ahead and book out those campsites and then manage your own subleasing plans... i think this is probably the best way to make sure that everyone is happy... if we leave it to rogers, confusion may arise, and i don't want to have to manage subleasing campsites myself (lots of other things to worry about!). it is vital to try to keep noise complaints to a minimum late in the evening, and keep in mind that some complaints came from porcers, so make sure you guys do get a big enough chunk of land. also, check out the aerial view on the rogers website... certain areas don't have many trees, and you might want to take this into consideration. me? i'm leaning towards a motel room but will, if sure, be hanging out at the fun tent from time to time.

about the picnic hall i mentioned that is down on a field on its own... i believe it is a shed type building with open walls, for what it's worth. i'm supposed to go up with taxinator next week to take a fresh look. i can report back after that...
  
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: dalebert on January 09, 2009, 10:53:34 pm
if you want to create a buffer zone (great idea!) you should go ahead and book out those campsites and then manage your own subleasing plans...

That's the idea actually. Last year I believe Jason talked about doing this himself. There were plenty of people who said they'd reimburse him for one of those sites. I was just wondering if doing this would satisfy the folks at Roger's. Say, for instance, if Jason booked a cluster of sites including all of those in that upper-right corner of the map, sub-let the extra sites to people who don't mind being near it, and then putting the fun tent in the far upper-right site. Seems like that would create a sort of party zone boundary.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: MK on January 10, 2009, 01:31:17 am
sonya and i are almost definitely coming. we're looking forward to meeting you all finally!

"almost definately." What do I have to do to get you to take the "almost" out of that sentence?

Many days stay, in the beautiful mountains of NH, during the Summer, surrounded by "extreme" liberty loving activists who are on vacation and celebrating their friendship and achievements is an experience that is absolutely impossible to duplicate.  If there is such a thing as a "life changing" experience...then this would be it.

So if you'd like to show your minds an experience like they've never before seen...then you will be ready to walk, hitchhike or crawl to Lancaster, NH, the last week of June, because words cannot describe what a libertating experience it is, to be able to be submersed into a world of extreme crazy liberty lovers who are on a mission, to enjoy and know what it's like to "live" where everyone you meet, see and talk too....appreciates Liberty and Freedom like you do. 

On one hand, it's almost too much for your mind to handle (it's in disbeleif that all these people could agree with you), but it's real, you can see that and consequently it delivers life as you always imagined...easy, fun and just right! 



PS: Plus there will be cold Free Stater Beer as well!


   
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Dave Mincin on January 10, 2009, 06:53:28 am
 

about the picnic hall i mentioned that is down on a field on its own... i believe it is a shed type building with open walls, for what it's worth. i'm supposed to go up with taxinator next week to take a fresh look. i can report back after that...
  
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I believe this would be the ideal spot for the "Fun Tent."  It is little more thana a 5-10 minute walk from anywhere in the campground, and eliminates the need for much planning.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Surrealpolichick on January 10, 2009, 08:42:35 am


about the picnic hall i mentioned that is down on a field on its own... i believe it is a shed type building with open walls, for what it's worth. i'm supposed to go up with taxinator next week to take a fresh look. i can report back after that...
  

I believe this would be the ideal spot for the "Fun Tent."  It is little more thana a 5-10 minute walk from anywhere in the campground, and eliminates the need for much planning.
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Dale: Dave knows Rogers really well, so this is good advice. From what I remember, this would work great... it's an open building, so it feels like outside, it's at the end of the field where the bands/activities will be, and have a grill where we are planning some communal meals, so there's that sense of cohesiveness we're looking for, there are picnic tables for people to relax and play games at etc., and it's far enough from where people will be sleeping to eliminate hassles.  Maybe wait until we've visited the grounds again next week, and then let's chat...
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: dalebert on January 10, 2009, 09:44:58 am
Dale: Dave knows Rogers really well, so this is good advice. From what I remember, this would work great... it's an open building, so it feels like outside, it's at the end of the field where the bands/activities will be, and have a grill where we are planning some communal meals, so there's that sense of cohesiveness we're looking for, there are picnic tables for people to relax and play games at etc., and it's far enough from where people will be sleeping to eliminate hassles.  Maybe wait until we've visited the grounds again next week, and then let's chat...

If it works, and Roger is ok with it, it does sound better than just reserving a bunch of sites. If Jason takes it for the fun tent, then different people can sort of sponsor different meals. Like I'd like to do a pancake breakfast sometime early in the week.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: HelmholtzWatson on January 10, 2009, 10:28:29 am
sonya and i are almost definitely coming. we're looking forward to meeting you all finally!

"almost definately." What do I have to do to get you to take the "almost" out of that sentence?

Many days stay, in the beautiful mountains of NH, during the Summer, surrounded by "extreme" liberty loving activists who are on vacation and celebrating their friendship and achievements is an experience that is absolutely impossible to duplicate.  If there is such a thing as a "life changing" experience...then this would be it.

So if you'd like to show your minds an experience like they've never before seen...then you will be ready to walk, hitchhike or crawl to Lancaster, NH, the last week of June, because words cannot describe what a libertating experience it is, to be able to be submersed into a world of extreme crazy liberty lovers who are on a mission, to enjoy and know what it's like to "live" where everyone you meet, see and talk too....appreciates Liberty and Freedom like you do. 

On one hand, it's almost too much for your mind to handle (it's in disbeleif that all these people could agree with you), but it's real, you can see that and consequently it delivers life as you always imagined...easy, fun and just right! 



PS: Plus there will be cold Free Stater Beer as well!
   

that's pretty convincing. it sounds like an amazing experience - and i can't wait to try some koncord kombat.


alright! unless something unforeseen prevents us, we'll be there!  ;)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on January 11, 2009, 03:06:23 am
This sounds great!  I'm looking forward to experiencing Rogers, as I've never been and Gunstock blows. 

About this "quiet time" stuff - the Fun Tent should be surrounded by campgrounds populated by people who don't care about "quiet time" so any other Rogers' patrons (who could be offended) are as far as possible from it.

Cool, glad you're excited because I couldn't STAND the radio silence on the, er, radio. ;-) I've got an email in to the owners to see where might be the perfect spot for the fun tent/how to arrange no noise hassles... One possibility is to take over the picnic hall, but that might be a little too big (seats about 100+) but it's "far" (like a minute or two walk) away and could make a good base camp now that I hear we're bringing in strippers.

That's a JOKE, people. Jeez.  ::)

Thanks for the idea. Strippers, poker and paintball. Is there anything else I should be arranging?

Nice. ;D
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: MK on January 11, 2009, 11:16:09 am
sonya and i are almost definitely coming. we're looking forward to meeting you all finally!

"almost definately." What do I have to do to get you to take the "almost" out of that sentence?

Many days stay, in the beautiful mountains of NH, during the Summer, surrounded by "extreme" liberty loving activists who are on vacation and celebrating their friendship and achievements is an experience that is absolutely impossible to duplicate.  If there is such a thing as a "life changing" experience...then this would be it.

So if you'd like to show your minds an experience like they've never before seen...then you will be ready to walk, hitchhike or crawl to Lancaster, NH, the last week of June, because words cannot describe what a libertating experience it is, to be able to be submersed into a world of extreme crazy liberty lovers who are on a mission, to enjoy and know what it's like to "live" where everyone you meet, see and talk too....appreciates Liberty and Freedom like you do. 

On one hand, it's almost too much for your mind to handle (it's in disbeleif that all these people could agree with you), but it's real, you can see that and consequently it delivers life as you always imagined...easy, fun and just right! 



PS: Plus there will be cold Free Stater Beer as well!
   

that's pretty convincing. it sounds like an amazing experience - and i can't wait to try some koncord kombat.


alright! unless something unforeseen prevents us, we'll be there!  ;)

I kindof cringed at the "unforseen" word (escape clause!) but if you mean like death, then that works for me! 

It's going to be a big time festival environment and even Free Talk LIve will be broadcasting live from there. 

Anyway, look forward to meeting you and seeing you there!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: daveneu on January 19, 2009, 06:49:54 pm
My first Porcfest - I'm excited  ;D. Will come alone unless the wife can join. Will have retired just several days before (June 18th). Booked a room at the hotel.

Dave
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Porcupine Realtor on January 19, 2009, 07:08:55 pm
We look forward to seeing you!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: DavidJames on January 20, 2009, 01:38:43 am
Should I wait till registration to buy my plain tickets? I dunno if the dates will change for porcfest but i figure the earlier i get the tickets the cheaper the flights will be. Is there lots of events going on leading up to porcfest? I would mind flying in earlier if so or just to look around.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: sj on January 20, 2009, 03:20:27 am
Should I wait till registration to buy my plain tickets? I dunno if the dates will change for porcfest but i figure the earlier i get the tickets the cheaper the flights will be. Is there lots of events going on leading up to porcfest? I would mind flying in earlier if so or just to look around.

I don't know about any events, but it could be neat to hang out with some porcs before hand.  See about staying at one of the porc manors.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: dalebert on January 20, 2009, 06:17:22 am
My first Porcfest - I'm excited  ;D. Will come alone unless the wife can join. Will have retired just several days before (June 18th). Booked a room at the hotel.

Dave

Congo Rats! Great timing. Porcfest can be a sort of celebration of your retirement.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: dalebert on January 20, 2009, 06:19:27 am
Is there lots of events going on leading up to porcfest? I would mind flying in earlier if so or just to look around.

The weekend is when it really heats up, but the weekdays leading up to that is when a smaller, more cozy crowd starts to gather and party very spontaneously and casually. I came early the last two fests and I personally enjoy that part quite a lot. Depends on your tastes. Also, coming early to tour NH a bit is a great idea. I rented a car my first year and it was a good investment.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on January 20, 2009, 07:20:12 am
Dale is correct.  The week of camping and hanging out is Porcfest. I would put Saturday aside for touring and avoid the speeches.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Dreepa on January 20, 2009, 07:35:24 am
Dale is correct.  The week of camping and hanging out is Porcfest. I would put Saturday aside for touring and avoid the speeches.
I thought we were avoiding most speeches this year.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: cathleeninnh on January 20, 2009, 07:57:12 am
Don't leave on Saturday, but hang where you want to hang and avoid what you want to avoid. Coming early is better than just showing up for the weekend. If you have never been among many porcs, you need time to adjust and acclimate.

Cathleen
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Porcupine Realtor on January 20, 2009, 10:03:12 am
Some people will start camping as early as Monday of that week, and most leave on Sunday.  If you can visit for a week, you'll have that many more opportunities to tour the state, meet other movers, attend Taproom Tuesday, Seacoast Wednesday, and more.
Personally, I like some of the speeches, particularly the "we made the move" panel discussion.  But to each his own . . . it's the libertarian way.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: freedomroad on January 20, 2009, 10:03:32 am
Dale is correct.  The week of camping and hanging out is Porcfest. I would put Saturday aside for touring and avoid the speeches.

What Lloyd suggests is a really good idea if you have already been to a couple Porcfests or at least one.  However, if you have never been to a Porcfest, the Friday, Saturday, and sometimes Sunday (or Th) speeches, panels, and talks may be extremely useful.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: dalebert on January 21, 2009, 10:44:25 am
What Lloyd suggests is a really good idea if you have already been to a couple Porcfests or at least one.  However, if you have never been to a Porcfest, the Friday, Saturday, and sometimes Sunday (or Th) speeches, panels, and talks may be extremely useful.

It's true. Keep in mind that Lloyd is a seasoned veteran of the FSP. :) He's heard all of those speeches. I went to more of those my first year and I enjoyed them. Went to a lot less my second year. Of course I was staffing my table in the vendor area most of the weekend so I'm not sure if I would have seen more otherwise. Anyway, I now look at Porcfest as a week-long ROCKIN' party in the woods with all my good friends here in NH and lots of new people that I'm looking forward to getting to know better. You hear some of us old farts talking down the seminars and such but take it with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on January 21, 2009, 10:47:07 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: MK on January 22, 2009, 05:23:45 pm


about the picnic hall i mentioned that is down on a field on its own... i believe it is a shed type building with open walls, for what it's worth. i'm supposed to go up with taxinator next week to take a fresh look. i can report back after that...
  

I believe this would be the ideal spot for the "Fun Tent."  It is little more thana a 5-10 minute walk from anywhere in the campground, and eliminates the need for much planning.
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This sounds like the "Dream Fun Tent" as it has a real roof, open sides and is away from the main area.  I imagine we would be able to make a fire near it as well (?)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: MK on January 22, 2009, 05:35:48 pm
What Lloyd suggests is a really good idea if you have already been to a couple Porcfests or at least one.  However, if you have never been to a Porcfest, the Friday, Saturday, and sometimes Sunday (or Th) speeches, panels, and talks may be extremely useful.

It's true. Keep in mind that Lloyd is a seasoned veteran of the FSP. :) He's heard all of those speeches. I went to more of those my first year and I enjoyed them. Went to a lot less my second year. Of course I was staffing my table in the vendor area most of the weekend so I'm not sure if I would have seen more otherwise. Anyway, I now look at Porcfest as a week-long ROCKIN' party in the woods with all my good friends here in NH and lots of new people that I'm looking forward to getting to know better. You hear some of us old farts talking down the seminars and such but take it with a grain of salt.


PS: Dale is the youngest looking "old fart" you'll ever see...but he does consider himself "an Olde Tymer" when it comes to the FSP movement.... (like Lloyd).

And I think I figured out a way to get Lloyd to attend a speech...Make him a speaker!  Lloyd, if you speak, I promise to attend your sermon speech.  What would be the subject?

 

Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Moebius Tripp on January 22, 2009, 10:29:50 pm
What would be the subject?

Lloyd doesn't believe in "subjects", I'll wager.  Only "voluntary equals". ;D
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: JasonPSorens on January 23, 2009, 09:19:48 am


about the picnic hall i mentioned that is down on a field on its own... i believe it is a shed type building with open walls, for what it's worth. i'm supposed to go up with taxinator next week to take a fresh look. i can report back after that...
  

I believe this would be the ideal spot for the "Fun Tent."  It is little more thana a 5-10 minute walk from anywhere in the campground, and eliminates the need for much planning.


This sounds like the "Dream Fun Tent" as it has a real roof, open sides and is away from the main area.  I imagine we would be able to make a fire near it as well (?)
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IIRC the picnic area is somewhat small, but there's no reason people couldn't stand around outside the sheltered bit if it's not raining. And there's a big fire pit close by too. Sounds like the perfect spot for the Fun Tent really.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: dalebert on January 23, 2009, 09:28:48 am
IIRC the picnic area is somewhat small...

How does it compare to the size of last year's tent?
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: JasonPSorens on January 23, 2009, 11:32:01 am
IIRC the picnic area is somewhat small...

How does it compare to the size of last year's tent?

This is just my recollection from a few years ago, but I think it is a bit smaller. I think there were only two picnic tables.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: dalebert on January 23, 2009, 03:38:51 pm
This is just my recollection from a few years ago, but I think it is a bit smaller. I think there were only two picnic tables.

Oh dear. Well is there space enough nearby for a tent?
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: MengerFan on January 23, 2009, 04:04:13 pm
If you guys want to have your own Fun Tent, can you kindly use a different name?

k thx
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: MK on January 23, 2009, 05:33:29 pm
I was the one who used the term "Dream Fun Tent" but I think I misscomunicated (via using a bbs) and I just wanted to be clear that what I meant was...the Shelter in the field I think would be a dream location for (the original, the one and only) Fun Tent.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: ny2nh on January 23, 2009, 11:25:04 pm
The thing about the fun tent....is it's Jason's Fun Tent. I'm sure he's coordinating with someone, but where he puts whatever he decides to put is really up to him. Just like everyone else picks where they want to camp, it's really really up to Jason. He did just fine planning the fun tent last year without everyone's input, maybe we should just let him do that again this year. If he needs help, I am sure he will ask.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: sj on January 24, 2009, 04:56:26 pm
If you guys want to have your own Fun Tent, can you kindly use a different name?

k thx

"The volunteers" won't let us, sorry.   ;)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: HelmholtzWatson on January 24, 2009, 10:31:27 pm
If you guys want to have your own Fun Tent, can you kindly use a different name?

k thx

"The volunteers" won't let us, sorry.   ;)

haha, i think i caught the reference.
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=16582.msg199732#msg199732 (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=16582.msg199732#msg199732)

that debate went on and on.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: sj on January 25, 2009, 01:16:46 am
If you guys want to have your own Fun Tent, can you kindly use a different name?

k thx

"The volunteers" won't let us, sorry.   ;)

haha, i think i caught the reference.
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=16582.msg199732#msg199732 (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=16582.msg199732#msg199732)

that debate went on and on.

Yeah, well, as I suspected, it was nothing but Russell's idea of a joke (see here (http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=16689.msg282612#msg282612) and here (http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=16689.msg283228#msg283228))
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 25, 2009, 10:48:48 am
IIRC the picnic area is somewhat small...

How does it compare to the size of last year's tent?

This is just my recollection from a few years ago, but I think it is a bit smaller. I think there were only two picnic tables.
actually bigger, with sinks and a bathroom
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 25, 2009, 11:21:30 am

Yeah, well, as I suspected, it was nothing but Russell's idea of a joke (see here (http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=16689.msg282612#msg282612) and here (http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=16689.msg283228#msg283228))
what joke?
politics as a solution is a joke, but the free state party is real for me.
As a republican, you wouldn't want to be a part of  it, but for others it is cool. :)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: soliscjw on February 24, 2009, 01:00:36 am
Yay no $11 hotdogs and $7 Bud!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Otosan on March 03, 2009, 07:08:18 pm
Drum roll please..........there is a good chance of I "the Otosan" will be at this yrs Porfest....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on March 03, 2009, 07:14:13 pm
Cool!
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Pat K on March 03, 2009, 07:45:18 pm
Yeah cool. I just hope the old fart doesn't forget he is coming.  ;D
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: freedomroad on March 03, 2009, 08:11:29 pm
Drum roll please..........there is a good chance of I "the Otosan" will be at this yrs Porfest....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Cool.  You can visit Don and C's new home them.  I was there today and it is quite nice.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Porcupine The Godful Heathen on March 04, 2009, 07:20:28 pm
Yay no $11 hotdogs and $7 Bud!

Exactly! 8)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Friday on April 25, 2009, 01:23:28 pm
Is there a PorcFest schedule of events online somewhere?
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: freedomroad on April 26, 2009, 05:54:47 am
You want to go to the Porcfest page for info, http://www.freestateproject.org/news/festival

For more detailed info, check out the google group, http://groups.google.com/group/porcfest09

However, you do bring up a good point.  Some type of rough draft should be put on the Porcfest page soon.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Porcupine Realtor on April 26, 2009, 08:38:54 am
Here's another page with a list of planned events, however days/times have not yet been finalized.  http://www.freestateproject.org/festival/schedule (http://www.freestateproject.org/festival/schedule)

Most of the activities are scheduled for Friday and Saturday, with all sorts of unofficial events happening "organically" throughout the week.  Bus tours will be on Wednesday and Thursday. 
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Dave Mincin on April 26, 2009, 06:53:01 pm
Since we are going back to Roger's I believe that you newbies need to know the one rule we
have, and exceptions will not be tolerated.

"What happens at PorcFest, stays at PorcFest!"

Right Jason? ;D
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Pat K on April 26, 2009, 09:24:08 pm
Since we are going back to Roger's I believe that you newbies need to know the one rule we
have, and exceptions will not be tolerated.

"What happens at PorcFest, stays at PorcFest!"

Right Jason? ;D

Things happen at Porc Fest?
I did not know that.
I never saw any thing, heard any thing.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Friday on April 27, 2009, 06:45:50 am
Since we are going back to Roger's I believe that you newbies need to know the one rule we
have, and exceptions will not be tolerated.

"What happens at PorcFest, stays at PorcFest!"

Right Jason? ;D

Things happen at Porc Fest?
I did not know that.
I never saw any thing, heard any thing.
  :-X
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on April 27, 2009, 02:31:05 pm
Blind Drunk I understand, but, how has he failed to hear anything?
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Alex Free Market on May 17, 2009, 12:27:26 am
Ummm.  Somebody asked a question the other day (in another thread or forum) which I have the answer to.  I thought it was Dale, but whomever it was...... the question was regarding Roger's Campground policy regarding how many people are allowed at a tent site.... because their website was poorly written and does not explain this well. 

The web site say's the rates are for two people per site, but does not explain what if you have more than two people.  So I have the answer.


According to their registration system, 2 people can be at a tent site and you pay the "base rate" (the fees listed).  However, for each additional person, it is roughly (or exactly) $5 extra per person, per day.  I think I got the math right on that... but yeah, so there is a small nominal fee for each extra person you have at your tent site.  That is for adults, anyway.   I'm not sure if the extra fee applies if you have a child.  You may get an exemption for that.


I also don't think there is any kind of "cap" on how many people you can have on your tent site, whether single or double.  They just want their money.  They know the campground is going to be packed out for the event, so they probably will have no objection to four to six guys sharing the same site.



The Roger's folks wouldn't know the difference if you had more people at your tent site, though I definitely do not advocate people jipping them.... but... just saying... 

They do, however, ask how many vehicles you have... because they need to give you the thing to get in the gate.... so you can't be saying you have two or three vehicles if you only register as one person... cause'... they are going to see the obvious math discrepancy there.



Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: ny2nh on May 17, 2009, 08:40:15 am
Here's a thought....a radical one mind you.....

If Roger's charges $5 per adult per day....then why not just pay them the $5 per day per adult. You know, be honest and fair about it. They are a business and they have a fee for a reason. Why jip them out of their profit?
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on May 17, 2009, 09:28:04 am
I think that is also how you get the sticker that gets your car into the park
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Alex Free Market on May 17, 2009, 10:53:42 am
Here's a thought....a radical one mind you.....

If Roger's charges $5 per adult per day....then why not just pay them the $5 per day per adult.



I don't recall anybody saying otherwise?
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Liberty603 on May 22, 2009, 01:46:01 pm
Will the schedule of events be posted soon?  :)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: ny2nh on May 22, 2009, 03:29:37 pm
Here's a thought....a radical one mind you.....

If Roger's charges $5 per adult per day....then why not just pay them the $5 per day per adult.



I don't recall anybody saying otherwise?

The Roger's folks wouldn't know the difference if you had more people at your tent site, though I definitely do not advocate people jipping them.... but... just saying... 

They do, however, ask how many vehicles you have... because they need to give you the thing to get in the gate.... so you can't be saying you have two or three vehicles if you only register as one person... cause'... they are going to see the obvious math discrepancy there.

This surely implies that there might be a way of skirting around paying...as long as you don;t have more vehicles than people. I was just reminding people that the right thing to do would be to just pay the $5 per night fee.   :)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on May 22, 2009, 06:40:46 pm
Since we are going back to Roger's I believe that you newbies need to know the one rule we
have, and exceptions will not be tolerated.

"What happens at PorcFest, stays at PorcFest!"

Right Jason? ;D

Things happen at Porc Fest?
I did not know that.
I never saw any thing, heard any thing.
  :-X
Don't worry Friday.  This covers........you know........that thing that you did that time.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Alex Free Market on May 22, 2009, 11:37:48 pm

This surely implies that there might be a way of skirting around paying...as long as you don;t have more vehicles than people. I was just reminding people that the right thing to do would be to just pay the $5 per night fee.   :)


People have done it at every single Porcfest I have been to thusfar, and I'm sure other people know that.  Not even sure why I brought that tangential point up, as it wasn't really related to Dale's question anyway.... I often just ramble when writing.


Not like I'm revealing any secrets on how people skirt the system at campgrounds, as it is fairly obvious.  It's the exact same thing people do at hotels/motels.  Check in for one or two people, but let several stay in the room.


*shrugs* I'm pretty much just stating the obvious.   What other people do is on them, as I do not condone it.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Trenks on June 02, 2009, 06:59:08 pm

This surely implies that there might be a way of skirting around paying...as long as you don;t have more vehicles than people. I was just reminding people that the right thing to do would be to just pay the $5 per night fee.   :)


People have done it at every single Porcfest I have been to thusfar, and I'm sure other people know that.  Not even sure why I brought that tangential point up, as it wasn't really related to Dale's question anyway.... I often just ramble when writing.


Not like I'm revealing any secrets on how people skirt the system at campgrounds, as it is fairly obvious.  It's the exact same thing people do at hotels/motels.  Check in for one or two people, but let several stay in the room.


*shrugs* I'm pretty much just stating the obvious.   What other people do is on them, as I do not condone it.


I thought the obvious way was to camp farther out in the wilderness.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Dave Mincin on June 02, 2009, 10:28:39 pm
In the past, unlike Gunstock, the owner has always been fair with us.  In return we have encouraged the folks to pay the extra 5 bucks.  If you want to sneak in
I'm sure you can do it, but I find it weak, and totally against what we are about. Like being honest, and paying your fair shaire.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: ny2nh on June 04, 2009, 06:58:54 am
If you want to sneak in I'm sure you can do it, but I find it weak, and totally against what we are about. Like being honest, and paying your fair shaire.
^ this
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Trenks on June 04, 2009, 01:46:34 pm
or how about passing out on a picnic table? ;)
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: lloydbob1 on June 04, 2009, 02:28:46 pm
As long as you pay the 5 bucks
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: Alex Free Market on June 16, 2009, 10:12:17 pm

I thought the obvious way was to camp farther out in the wilderness.


That's the best way.   Unfortunately, the pointy headed bureaucrats do not like when people do that, and have imposed all kinds of restrictions in an attempt to discourage and inhibit people from camping on public lands.
Title: Re: Rogers it is! June 25-28, 2009
Post by: freedomroad on June 19, 2009, 12:35:19 am
If you are driving up to Roger's Campground, you may want to consider spending a few minutes promoting the FSP on the way.  Print up a few FSP flyers and place them in free magazines at Rest Areas on your way up.  See here for more info, http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=18209.0

If you like the idea, look for me at Porcfest and I'll give you a few flyers to use on your drive back home.

Thanks!