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Title: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Rich Goldman on July 21, 2008, 03:06:51 pm
The FSP needs a steady/reliable source of revenue in order to plan and support day-to-day operations, recruiting/marketing actions, etc.  Towards alleviating this need, a pledge has been setup, asking for individuals to donate $10/month to the FSP for a year, if 99 others do so.  The FSP is run entirely by un-paid volunteers, so all donations are going to the project (not someone's pocket).  Especially if you can't support the project with time, please support it with money.

Visit http://www.pledgebank.com/10forFSP (http://www.pledgebank.com/10forFSP) for more info and to sign up. I have.
   -Rich
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on July 21, 2008, 04:13:25 pm
The FSP needs a steady/reliable source of revenue in order to plan and support day-to-day operations, recruiting/marketing actions, etc.  Towards alleviating this need, a pledge has been setup, asking for individuals to donate $10/month to the FSP for a year, if 99 others do so.  The FSP is run entirely by un-paid volunteers, so all donations are going to the project (not someone's pocket).  Especially if you can't support the project with time, please support it with money.

Visit http://www.pledgebank.com/10forFSP (http://www.pledgebank.com/10forFSP) for more info and to sign up. I have.
   -Rich
He said it better than me.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Rebel on July 22, 2008, 11:55:48 am
Bump
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: frankwtodd on July 22, 2008, 11:00:58 pm
OK, I'm in. Do you do a monthly draft? Or do I have to try and remember. :o
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Rich Goldman on July 23, 2008, 06:55:42 am
Yup, on the donate page (http://www.freestateproject.org/donate), you'd select the option to auto-pay $10/month, so no, you wouldn't have to worry about doing it each month.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: NHArticleTen on July 23, 2008, 07:30:25 am

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Is the membership list available for rent when the board approves of the renter?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?  Has the board approved a table and presence at the Rally For The Republic event in St. Paul?

Thanks



Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on July 23, 2008, 07:15:16 pm

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Is the membership list available for rent when the board approves of the renter?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?  Has the board approved a table and presence at the Rally For The Republic event in St. Paul?

Thanks


Here are the meeting minutes:
http://freestateproject.org/about/bod_minutes

I don't see any recent ones.

I will be putting a chip in to help pay for the flyers and the booth at the Rally for The Republic. (I will put it up next week)
These will be funds used SOLELY to get more Ron Paul Patriots to NH (just like what we did at the Ron Paul Rally in DC).
I did forward the message regarding a table at the Rally to the board. 
I am getting 2 carloads (more if people want) to go the the Rally in St Paul.

The questions about the lists I can't answer as I am not on the board.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on July 25, 2008, 08:38:26 pm
There are only 6 people willing to do this? ???
I understand that some people are poor but 6? :'(
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on July 26, 2008, 12:15:53 am
There are only 6 people willing to do this? ???
I understand that some people are poor but 6? :'(

In my experience, people seem to be a lot more generous with their time than money. Ask people to show up somewhere (e.g., a move-in party), you get a dozen volunteers; ask them to donate the dollar equivalent of that time, and maybe one or two will.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: shyfrog on July 26, 2008, 01:33:21 am
I signed it via facebook... needs more exposure than just here in the forums.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Rich Goldman on July 28, 2008, 06:35:09 am
There are only 6 people willing to do this? ???
I understand that some people are poor but 6? :'(

Some quick ideas:
Can this be put in the FSP homepage spotlight?

This should be promoted at all the NH Porc group meetings and local groups (I'll be emailing the mid-atlantic soon)

It's been awhile since a Presidential email has gone out discussing the status and current initiative(s) of the project..  Perhaps if you talk with Irena she can write one and include this in it.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: NHArticleTen on July 28, 2008, 02:21:16 pm
There are only 6 people willing to do this? ???
I understand that some people are poor but 6? :'(

I'm getting a better return on my investments with the Ron Paul Presidential Campaign, The Campaign For Liberty, The Rally For The Republic, and handing out copies of The Revolution; A Manifesto...

Not to mention that I've always advocated for more powerful and bigger "buses"...
The FSP hierarchy has always left much to be desired IMHO even back to the days of Elizabeth and her tirades...
More recently an experienced member of the Freedom and Liberty Movement was denied a spot on the board with the official reason being "inexperience"?!?!?!

Furthermore, I've been sincerely disappointed in the incredible amount of philosophically immature FSP members to include Jason Sorens who has more recently stated that he favors "some" "state" and, therefore..."some" aggression/force/fraud...

And he isn't the only one...

Then there are those FSPers who advocate for tying a woman up and restraining her physically for up to nine months to prevent her from exercising complete control, authority, and jurisdiction over HER OWN BODY...and of all the places for us to find out they thought this way it was at the "Liberty Forum 2007"...

Go figure...

I don't have any reservations about repelling, destroying, and eliminating...

You're either with the looters, bureaucrats, jackboots, and mercenaries...
Or you're with US...

You can't have it both ways forever...
Sooner or later you're going to get "called to the carpet"...

The time to change(if you so desire) is right now...cease, desist, and quit...everyone leaves everyone else alone...
Because during the "call to the carpet" you'll be "vetted" through the viewfinder on the periscope...
Where the decision on whether or not to launch the torpedoes will be made...
Without your input at that time...your history will dictate your future...

Enjoy!

Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on July 29, 2008, 06:43:24 pm

Then there are those FSPers who advocate for tying a woman up and restraining her physically for up to nine months to prevent her from exercising complete control, authority, and jurisdiction over HER OWN BODY...and of all the places for us to find out they thought this way it was at the "Liberty Forum 2007"...


I guess I missed that thread.

There are FSPers who advocate all sorts of things.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on July 29, 2008, 06:44:57 pm
There are only 6 people willing to do this? ???
I understand that some people are poor but 6? :'(

In my experience, people seem to be a lot more generous with their time than money. Ask people to show up somewhere (e.g., a move-in party), you get a dozen volunteers; ask them to donate the dollar equivalent of that time, and maybe one or two will.

And what about the 8000 people not in NH?

Also remember I keep hearing that we can get rid of the state because people will VOLUNTEER their money.
Just wondering.

We also have a chip in on the front page dedicated to funding sending FSPers out to St Paul to recruit at the Campaign for Liberty.
See the front page.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: MengerFan on July 29, 2008, 06:57:03 pm
People are much more willing to part with their money when they know what they are getting for it. This is likely why you observe that people are more generous with their time rather than money. If you are doing something, you will typically know what it is you are doing. It is definitely much easier to get people to donate money when it results in placing their name on a plaque, such as on a building, than for something less tangible such as a scholarship fund.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: sj on July 29, 2008, 06:58:16 pm
There are only 6 people willing to do this? ???
I understand that some people are poor but 6? :'(

In my experience, people seem to be a lot more generous with their time than money. Ask people to show up somewhere (e.g., a move-in party), you get a dozen volunteers; ask them to donate the dollar equivalent of that time, and maybe one or two will.

And what about the 8000 people not in NH?

Also remember I keep hearing that we can get rid of the state because people will VOLUNTEER their money.
Just wondering.

We also have a chip in on the front page dedicated to funding sending FSPers out to St Paul to recruit at the Campaign for Liberty.
See the front page.

I'm broke, but I donated $5.  I know that everyone can afford $5.  We only need 200 people to donate $5 and we're there.

Btw, don't doubt for a minute that the money donated to the Ron Paul convention in MN will not be money very well spent.  Our efforts at the Ron Paul March were super successful, and I expect MN to be just as successful.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on July 29, 2008, 06:59:33 pm
People are much more willing to part with their money when they know what they are getting for it. This is likely why you observe that people are more generous with their time rather than money. If you are doing something, you will typically know what it is you are doing. It is definitely much easier to get people to donate money when it results in placing their name on a plaque, such as on a building, than for something less tangible such as a scholarship fund.
Correct that is why there is a chip in with a specific function.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: NHArticleTen on July 29, 2008, 07:13:30 pm

Then there are those FSPers who advocate for tying a woman up and restraining her physically for up to nine months to prevent her from exercising complete control, authority, and jurisdiction over HER OWN BODY...and of all the places for us to find out they thought this way it was at the "Liberty Forum 2007"...


I guess I missed that thread.

There are FSPers who advocate all sorts of things.

Chris...my friend...

While there may be FSPers who advocate all sorts of things...we're not talking about double-dipping in the salsa here...

I'm going to state...once again...that anyone who attempts, in any way, shape, or form, to interfere with a woman and her body...should be repelled, destroyed, and eliminated IMMEDIATELY...

You don't want to be dictating to a woman what she will or won't accept in her body while I'm anywhere neearby...whether you're attempting to put your penis in her...or attempting to force her to continue to have something inside her body that she does not expressly want there...I'll be handing her a .45 and joining her in repelling, destroying, and eliminating you...or anyone else who attempts such heinous acts against another Individual Sovereign Human Being...

RAD

Enjoy!

Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on July 29, 2008, 07:16:00 pm
Right but I am saying I missed that talk at the Liberty Forum 07.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on July 29, 2008, 11:27:31 pm

Then there are those FSPers who advocate for tying a woman up and restraining her physically for up to nine months to prevent her from exercising complete control, authority, and jurisdiction over HER OWN BODY...and of all the places for us to find out they thought this way it was at the "Liberty Forum 2007"...


I guess I missed that thread.

There are FSPers who advocate all sorts of things.

Chris...my friend...

While there may be FSPers who advocate all sorts of things...we're not talking about double-dipping in the salsa here...

I'm going to state...once again...that anyone who attempts, in any way, shape, or form, to interfere with a woman and her body...should be repelled, destroyed, and eliminated IMMEDIATELY...

You don't want to be dictating to a woman what she will or won't accept in her body while I'm anywhere neearby...whether you're attempting to put your penis in her...or attempting to force her to continue to have something inside her body that she does not expressly want there...I'll be handing her a .45 and joining her in repelling, destroying, and eliminating you...or anyone else who attempts such heinous acts against another Individual Sovereign Human Being...

RAD

Enjoy!

How did this debate end up spilling over into this thread?
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Porcupine The Godful Heathen on July 29, 2008, 11:32:15 pm
Is it possible for Rob to take a chill pill for once in his life?
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: sj on August 16, 2008, 10:55:01 pm
Moving this thread back on topic, I just set up payments at http://www.freestateproject.org/donate to auto deduct $10 per month.  I signed and updated the pledge (http://www.pledgebank.com/10forFSP) as well.  We need 88 more people.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Keyser Soce on August 17, 2008, 09:20:50 am

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Is the membership list available for rent when the board approves of the renter?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?  Has the board approved a table and presence at the Rally For The Republic event in St. Paul?

Thanks

This.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: NHArticleTen on August 17, 2008, 10:36:34 am
Is it possible for Rob to take a chill pill for once in his life?

no

Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: McDuck on August 17, 2008, 08:48:29 pm
I'll donate $10 at the first of next month for this.   
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: sj on August 31, 2008, 12:25:14 am
/bump
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: maxxoccupancy on August 31, 2008, 12:12:53 pm
I offered to buy ads in the FSP Newsletter, and was the only individual offering ad funds at that time.  I handle advertising for the Next 1,000, but the FSP board rejected my offer because they said it might distract from Personal Triggers.  After that, I was kind of turned off about giving any money to them.  Next 1,000 has 64 signers already, but I haven't met anyone who has moved because of Triggers.

Go figure.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: sj on August 31, 2008, 12:20:40 pm
I offered to buy ads in the FSP Newsletter, and was the only individual offering ad funds at that time.  I handle advertising for the Next 1,000, but the FSP board rejected my offer because they said it might distract from Personal Triggers.  After that, I was kind of turned off about giving any money to them.  Next 1,000 has 64 signers already, but I haven't met anyone who has moved because of Triggers.

Go figure.

A difference in tactics means you won't support the FSP financially anymore??
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on September 04, 2008, 08:35:36 pm

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Is the membership list available for rent when the board approves of the renter?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?  Has the board approved a table and presence at the Rally For The Republic event in St. Paul?

Thanks

This.

I don't think that the membership list is available for rent (I think that there is a privacy clause on the SOI).

The board did approave a table at the Rally... and we had a GREAT response.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Keyser Soce on September 08, 2008, 01:37:14 pm

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Is the membership list available for rent when the board approves of the renter?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?  Has the board approved a table and presence at the Rally For The Republic event in St. Paul?

Thanks

This.

I don't think that the membership list is available for rent (I think that there is a privacy clause on the SOI).

The board did approave a table at the Rally... and we had a GREAT response.

How about...

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on September 08, 2008, 03:03:13 pm

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Is the membership list available for rent when the board approves of the renter?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?  Has the board approved a table and presence at the Rally For The Republic event in St. Paul?

Thanks

This.

I don't think that the membership list is available for rent (I think that there is a privacy clause on the SOI).

The board did approave a table at the Rally... and we had a GREAT response.

How about...

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?
All in the works...
For #1.  I asked.  Jason is moving so that might have to wait until he gets here.
For #2.  Yes.. thru designated chips (like the one we had for the RAlly)
For #3.. Don't know but I think as we work thru the First 1000 list... .we can get a good system going to call all the people in the FSP and help them.

Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Keyser Soce on September 08, 2008, 05:07:25 pm

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Is the membership list available for rent when the board approves of the renter?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?  Has the board approved a table and presence at the Rally For The Republic event in St. Paul?

Thanks

This.

I don't think that the membership list is available for rent (I think that there is a privacy clause on the SOI).

The board did approave a table at the Rally... and we had a GREAT response.

How about...

Where do we find the minutes from past board meetings?  Can we designate what expenditures we want to fund?  Has the membership list been cleared of the listings that can't be contacted?
All in the works...
For #1.  I asked.  Jason is moving so that might have to wait until he gets here.
For #2.  Yes.. thru designated chips (like the one we had for the RAlly)
For #3.. Don't know but I think as we work thru the First 1000 list... .we can get a good system going to call all the people in the FSP and help them.

How difficult would it be to add a +1 option? I'll bet we could move the counter another dozen easily. It's likely that many couples only had one account and don't want to make the effort to open a second account with their old info just to update it with their new info. If the spouse who has already moved and updated could just log in and hit +1 that would be a good move towards a more accurate count. Maybe even +2 if they have older teens coming with them?
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Keyser Soce on September 08, 2008, 05:32:50 pm
Another source might be this forum. I was just looking at this thread

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=9315.0;topicseen

and wondering what happened to some of the posters. A few talk like they were early movers but haven't posted recently and I don't think I've met them either at Murphy's or Porcfest etc.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: Dreepa on September 08, 2008, 07:46:50 pm
you know I was looking at the thread and was wondering who that was.

I will look into it.

We have uncovered 3 movers recently who did not update their status.. 2 have done so.
The other will tomorrow.

I have a good feeling that we will get most of them by the end of the year.


Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: sj on September 13, 2008, 09:27:49 pm
Remember, you can sign up to donate $10 per month (or more) at http://freestateproject.org/donate
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: sj on September 16, 2008, 09:50:18 pm
I just got my second automatic $10 withdrawal notice today.  It was $10...didn't hurt at all.  And I got an e-mail so I didn't have to remember it was going through.
Title: Re: $10/month for the FSP
Post by: sj on September 20, 2008, 01:58:33 am
Ok...3rd bump in a row.  The pledge ends on the 21st.  I doubt we're going to meet the pledge, but please sign up anyway as we have a lot of great ideas for recruiting that we will be implementing in the next few months and having a constant flow of money we can count on helps.