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Title: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 13, 2008, 01:58:36 am
Hello, my name is Andrew and I am a 17 year old young man from California (will be turning 18 on August 5th).  I have a few questions concerning New Hampshire and any help I can get would be appreciated. :)

1. I am going to be a politician when I become older and was wondering what the age and citizenship requirements are for participation in New Hampshire's state legislative and executive offices.  How old do I have to be and how long do I have to be a citizen of New Hampshire?

2. Also, I would be very interested to know what town does not have a liberty-minded representative in the state legislature.  No point in running one of us against another, so I'd rather be informed of what areas need a libertarian representative and then I will move there and run against the incumbent as soon as I can.  I will most likely be registered as a Republican.

3. As a young man, I will not be able to afford much in the way of housing.  Are there affordable places to live in New Hampshire?  Here in California it's impossible to live within one's means.  Debt abounds and I am not about to participate in the culture of borrowing and false wealth that permeates contemporary society.  It is my desire to avoid debt wherever possible, and if affordable housing can be found in New Hampshire (preferably I will be rooming with a few others or something) then it will greatly influence my decision to go there.

4. I am a great public speaker and writer (no need to be modest here  8)), and am very interested in taking part in the revolution on a vocal and literary level.  Are there organizations, groups, etc. within New Hampshire interested in employing the talents of someone my age in the fight for freedom?

5. What is there in the way of college education in New Hampshire?  Any place affordable; any place recognized?  Any place to major specifically in law and economics?
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 13, 2008, 06:31:43 am
http://www.nhliberty.org/files/becoming.pdf

http://www.nhliberty.org/liberty_advocate

http://www.nhliberty.org/join
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: error on June 13, 2008, 08:24:50 am
When choosing a town to live in, you want to choose a place where YOU want to be. Nobody passes out living assignments around here. :)
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: greap on June 13, 2008, 01:39:12 pm
Welcome :-)

Out of curiosity are you looking at becoming a politician as a career or a hobby?
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: margomaps on June 13, 2008, 02:13:10 pm
Hello, my name is Andrew and I am a 17 year old young man from California (will be turning 18 on August 5th).  I have a few questions concerning New Hampshire and any help I can get would be appreciated. :)

Welcome, Andrew.   :)

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1. I am going to be a politician when I become older and was wondering what the age and citizenship requirements are for participation in New Hampshire's state legislative and executive offices.  How old do I have to be and how long do I have to be a citizen of New Hampshire?

2. Also, I would be very interested to know what town does not have a liberty-minded representative in the state legislature.  No point in running one of us against another, so I'd rather be informed of what areas need a libertarian representative and then I will move there and run against the incumbent as soon as I can.  I will most likely be registered as a Republican.

The NHLiberty links Denis provided should help you answer those questions.

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3. As a young man, I will not be able to afford much in the way of housing.  Are there affordable places to live in New Hampshire?  Here in California it's impossible to live within one's means.  Debt abounds and I am not about to participate in the culture of borrowing and false wealth that permeates contemporary society.  It is my desire to avoid debt wherever possible, and if affordable housing can be found in New Hampshire (preferably I will be rooming with a few others or something) then it will greatly influence my decision to go there.

Housing in NH isn't "cheap" necessarily, but it might be cheap relative to what you're used to in CA.  The reason it's not cheap in NH is because a big percentage of tax revenue comes from property taxes.  No income tax, no general sales tax.  So remember that if you pay a little more in rent/property taxes, you'll likely more than make up for it by not being taxed on your income or things you buy.  Anyway, there are a few places where porcs can go to rent from a porc and live as roomates/housemates with other porcs:

www.porcmanor.com (http://www.porcmanor.com)

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4. I am a great public speaker and writer (no need to be modest here  8)), and am very interested in taking part in the revolution on a vocal and literary level.  Are there organizations, groups, etc. within New Hampshire interested in employing the talents of someone my age in the fight for freedom?

There are at least 2 liberty-oriented newspapers in the state that I'm aware of.  One in Keene (www.keenefreepress.com (http://www.keenefreepress.com)), and I think one in Manchester (not sure of the name).  Hopefully someone else can chime in.  There's also Free Talk Live, a radio show based out of Keene.  And there may be other liberty media outlets that could use a good speaker/writer.  It might take a little research and some further questioning.

Meanwhile, I suggest you move to Manchester, get a room at Manchester's Porc Manor, and practice your speeches at Murhpy's Taproom (www.murphystaproom.net (http://www.murphystaproom.net)) -- though you'll have to wait a few years to legally enjoy the excellent beers on tap.


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5. What is there in the way of college education in New Hampshire?  Any place affordable; any place recognized?  Any place to major specifically in law and economics?

Not sure what you mean by recognized.  If you mean "prestigious", then look into Dartmouth.  As in ivy-league prestigious.  And probably expensive, unless you get a good scholarship.  UNH (www.unh.edu (http://www.unh.edu)) is more affordable, and less prestigious than Dartmouth.  It's a good school, and I'm sure you can major in economics/pre-law.

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6. And last, but certainly not least, can I find people to get wine for me if I so desire it? :)

You're on your own there, sorry.  :)
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 13, 2008, 05:22:44 pm
http://www.nhliberty.org/files/becoming.pdf

http://www.nhliberty.org/liberty_advocate

http://www.nhliberty.org/join
Thank you.

When choosing a town to live in, you want to choose a place where YOU want to be. Nobody passes out living assignments around here. :)
Well yah, I am not advocating central planning by any means, haha.  I am just saying that I am willing to move to an area that needs a representative; that I will do this to better fight in the state legislature for freedom.

Out of curiosity are you looking at becoming a politician as a career or a hobby?
A career.  I plan on being a politician for my whole life.

Housing in NH isn't "cheap" necessarily, but it might be cheap relative to what you're used to in CA.  The reason it's not cheap in NH is because a big percentage of tax revenue comes from property taxes.  No income tax, no general sales tax.  So remember that if you pay a little more in rent/property taxes, you'll likely more than make up for it by not being taxed on your income or things you buy.  Anyway, there are a few places where porcs can go to rent from a porc and live as roomates/housemates with other porcs:

www.porcmanor.com (http://www.porcmanor.com)

There are at least 2 liberty-oriented newspapers in the state that I'm aware of.  One in Keene (www.keenefreepress.com (http://www.keenefreepress.com)), and I think one in Manchester (not sure of the name).  Hopefully someone else can chime in.  There's also Free Talk Live, a radio show based out of Keene.  And there may be other liberty media outlets that could use a good speaker/writer.  It might take a little research and some further questioning.

Meanwhile, I suggest you move to Manchester, get a room at Manchester's Porc Manor, and practice your speeches at Murhpy's Taproom (www.murphystaproom.net (http://www.murphystaproom.net)) -- though you'll have to wait a few years to legally enjoy the excellent beers on tap.

Not sure what you mean by recognized.  If you mean "prestigious", then look into Dartmouth.  As in ivy-league prestigious.  And probably expensive, unless you get a good scholarship.  UNH (www.unh.edu (http://www.unh.edu)) is more affordable, and less prestigious than Dartmouth.  It's a good school, and I'm sure you can major in economics/pre-law.
Thank you. :)  I will definitely check out those links.  The Porc Manor site is very cool.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: John Edward Mercier on June 14, 2008, 07:18:28 am
A career that pays what our legislators make?
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: margomaps on June 14, 2008, 08:17:39 am
A career that pays what our legislators make?

Heheh, good point.  I didn't think of that when he mentioned he wanted to make a career out of politics...because I was so stunned that somebody around here wanted to make a career out of politics.

Andrew: how do you plan on surviving on $100 per year in NH?   >:D
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 14, 2008, 09:17:42 pm
Lol, I'll have another job, haha, because I knew about the $100/per year.  I just meant that politics is my focus and what I plan to eventually do full-time. :)
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: NHArticleTen on June 15, 2008, 05:51:01 am
Lol, I'll have another job, haha, because I knew about the $100/per year.  I just meant that politics is my focus and what I plan to eventually do full-time. :)

well...
one of the most common ways the "politicians" "do" it to other human beings right now is to first create a problem(using the supposed "power" of the state)...
then they offer "solutions" to the problem that don't address the root of the problem to begin with...
because when we follow the problems to their roots...
we find politicians...

not to mention the looters, bureaucrats, jackboots, and mercenaries that just "love" "politics"...

When Individual Sovereign Human Beings are students and advocates of the Philosophically Mature Non-Aggression Principle they recognize, respect, and demand that each and every Individual Sovereign Human Being recognize and respect each and every OTHER Individual Sovereign Human Being's Basic Inherent Inalienable Irrevocable Human Rights(the most common and fundamental of which are the right to life, the right to liberty, and the right to property)...

Without the "ability" to pit one "group" of "voters" against another "group" of "voters" and the direct and indirect use of aggression/force/fraud to foment the "isms"(racism, sexism, socialism, elitism, etc.) and the "rule" / "tyranny" of the mob "majority"...

Is there really any reason for "politicians"...other than so we remember how to tar and feather them?

I think you've missed NAP 101...or not taken it to it's reasonable, rational, and logical conclusion...which is total self-responsibility and self-rule...

Go figure...

RAD

Enjoy!

Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 15, 2008, 02:58:08 pm
Lol, I'll have another job, haha, because I knew about the $100/per year.  I just meant that politics is my focus and what I plan to eventually do full-time. :)

well...
one of the most common ways the "politicians" "do" it to other human beings right now is to first create a problem(using the supposed "power" of the state)...
then they offer "solutions" to the problem that don't address the root of the problem to begin with...
because when we follow the problems to their roots...
we find politicians...
All the more reason to have politicians in power who do not advocate state intervention to solve problems that state intervention created. :)

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not to mention the looters, bureaucrats, jackboots, and mercenaries that just "love" "politics"...
Are you implying something about my character?  ;D

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When Individual Sovereign Human Beings are students and advocates of the Philosophically Mature Non-Aggression Principle they recognize, respect, and demand that each and every Individual Sovereign Human Being recognize and respect each and every OTHER Individual Sovereign Human Being's Basic Inherent Inalienable Irrevocable Human Rights(the most common and fundamental of which are the right to life, the right to liberty, and the right to property)...
And governments are instituted among men to protect those rights. :)

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Without the "ability" to pit one "group" of "voters" against another "group" of "voters" and the direct and indirect use of aggression/force/fraud to foment the "isms"(racism, sexism, socialism, elitism, etc.) and the "rule" / "tyranny" of the mob "majority"...

Is there really any reason for "politicians"...other than so we remember how to tar and feather them?
Yes, there is a reason for politicians, just as there is a reason for governments: to protect our property.  Proper politicians seek just that, and only that.  All I want is to fight for the cause of liberty; first in New Hampshire and then on a national level.

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I think you've missed NAP 101...or not taken it to it's reasonable, rational, and logical conclusion...which is total self-responsibility and self-rule...
Ummm... how do you draw such arbitrary conclusions?  You know nothing about me, yet you assume I must be ignorant in some respect of basic libertarian philosophy, and, hence, I have this desire to become a politician.  I am an avid follower of Nietzsche, I have read J.S. Mill and Rothbard, and I have developed my own philosophy which calls for complete individual creativity; the only restrictions on that human creativity being restrictions that the individual adheres to oneself (i.e., morals).


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Go figure...

RAD

Enjoy!
Your post is drenched in sarcasm, but it is obvious you are taking your disdain for today's "career politicians" out on an innocent young man who wants nothing more than to make a career out of politics.  But you have equivocated on the terms.  Politics is not supposed to be a dirty word. :)
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: John Edward Mercier on June 15, 2008, 03:13:23 pm
Lol, I'll have another job, haha, because I knew about the $100/per year.  I just meant that politics is my focus and what I plan to eventually do full-time. :)
The politicians around here do work full-time for the $100... they have part-time gigs to support themselves.
NH is a proud sponsor of the 168 hour work week.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 15, 2008, 03:15:36 pm
Haha, sounds fun.  ;D
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: MaineShark on June 15, 2008, 05:11:17 pm
Yes, there is a reason for politicians, just as there is a reason for governments: to protect our property.  Proper politicians seek just that, and only that.  All I want is to fight for the cause of liberty; first in New Hampshire and then on a national level.

And who, precisely, is going to pay them to do that?  And why wouldn't we just hire private contractors for a fraction of the price, and get better service?

Joe
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: John Edward Mercier on June 15, 2008, 06:21:55 pm
Legislators are private contractors.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: MaineShark on June 15, 2008, 06:24:29 pm
Legislators are private contractors.

Yeah, just like the mafia...

You can hire anyone you want, as long as it is them...

Joe
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 16, 2008, 01:55:34 am
Not sure what you mean by recognized.  If you mean "prestigious", then look into Dartmouth.  As in ivy-league prestigious.  And probably expensive, unless you get a good scholarship.  UNH (www.unh.edu (http://www.unh.edu)) is more affordable, and less prestigious than Dartmouth.  It's a good school, and I'm sure you can major in economics/pre-law.
I actually have to go to a community college first, as my grades in high school were terrible, and I can't much afford anything else.  But it is nice to know that there are good universities in NH to attend after community college.  I still have to get a better idea of what the community colleges in NH offer in the way of economics/politics because they all seem to be more geared towards technical degrees.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on June 16, 2008, 08:07:00 pm
Welcome!
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 17, 2008, 04:18:37 pm
I have another question which I hope someone can answer.

http://www.nhliberty.org/files/becoming.pdf

This link says the following: "If there are three seats, the top three vote getters win the nomination and move on to the general election."
And: "Once again, [in the General Election], if there are three seats, the top three vote getters win the seats..."

Am I to understand that a community chooses out of, let's say, 5 people, and if there are two seats available then the top two go?

Because in California our state legislative elections work just like national general elections.  One Democrat, one republican, and perhaps one independent, and only one person can win.  But the impression I am getting from the New Hampshire process is that there are just a group of people on the ballot, each voter chooses one, and the top "vote getters" win the election.  Does this mean that, potentially, 3 or 4 legislators could be representing the same constituents?  In California, it is one Rep. per district of constituents.  But it seems to me that NH has several Reps. per district.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: MaineShark on June 17, 2008, 04:22:47 pm
This link says the following: "If there are three seats, the top three vote getters win the nomination and move on to the general election."
And: "Once again, [in the General Election], if there are three seats, the top three vote getters win the seats..."

Am I to understand that a community chooses out of, let's say, 5 people, and if there are two seats available then the top two go?

Because in California our state legislative elections work just like national general elections.  One Democrat, one republican, and perhaps one independent, and only one person can win.  But the impression I am getting from the New Hampshire process is that there are just a group of people on the ballot, each voter chooses one, and the top "vote getters" win the election.  Does this mean that, potentially, 3 or 4 legislators could be representing the same constituents?  In California, it is one Rep. per district of constituents.  But it seems to me that NH has several Reps. per district.

Some districts have multiple representatives, yes.

Joe
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 17, 2008, 04:37:38 pm
Ah, thank you. :)  I was a tad confused because that's not the way it works in California.  But, then again, we only have 80 representatives for the entire state, haha.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 18, 2008, 05:25:40 pm
One of the nice things about multiple Reps is that generally at least 1 will be a decent pro-liberty person you can talk to about whatever your issue is.

Unless you live in Keene or Concord, that is.
But fortunately a bunch of FSPers are looking to change that, come November  8)
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 19, 2008, 01:44:16 pm
One of the nice things about multiple Reps is that generally at least 1 will be a decent pro-liberty person you can talk to about whatever your issue is.

Unless you live in Keene or Concord, that is.
But fortunately a bunch of FSPers are looking to change that, come November  8)
It looks to me like I'll end up in Manchester if I go.  Should be running for office by the time I'm 20.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on June 20, 2008, 10:16:34 pm
One of the nice things about multiple Reps is that generally at least 1 will be a decent pro-liberty person you can talk to about whatever your issue is.

Unless you live in Keene or Concord, that is.
But fortunately a bunch of FSPers are looking to change that, come November  8)
It looks to me like I'll end up in Manchester if I go.  Should be running for office by the time I'm 20.

Move here before November of this year and you’re eligible in 2010. We already have another 19-year-old rep.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 23, 2008, 03:12:44 pm
One of the nice things about multiple Reps is that generally at least 1 will be a decent pro-liberty person you can talk to about whatever your issue is.

Unless you live in Keene or Concord, that is.
But fortunately a bunch of FSPers are looking to change that, come November  8)
It looks to me like I'll end up in Manchester if I go.  Should be running for office by the time I'm 20.

Move here before November of this year and you’re eligible in 2010. We already have another 19-year-old rep.
Yah, that's the plan right now.  If I do end up moving it will be at some point in August, after I turn 18.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 23, 2008, 03:45:30 pm
Cool.  Do you have a landing spot yet?  My house in Seabrook is a good place to stay temporarily and look for work.  You may also be able to score a permanent room here, and there's a pretty libertarian climate amongst the people here.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 23, 2008, 04:05:45 pm
I've actually got a place lined up in Manchester already as I am planning to attend Manchester CC.  But if that doesn't work out I'll get back to you, thanks for the help. :)
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on June 23, 2008, 08:24:26 pm
One of the nice things about multiple Reps is that generally at least 1 will be a decent pro-liberty person you can talk to about whatever your issue is.

Unless you live in Keene or Concord, that is.
But fortunately a bunch of FSPers are looking to change that, come November  8)
It looks to me like I'll end up in Manchester if I go.  Should be running for office by the time I'm 20.

Move here before November of this year and you’re eligible in 2010. We already have another 19-year-old rep.

Yah, that's the plan right now.  If I do end up moving it will be at some point in August, after I turn 18.

Excellent. ;D
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 24, 2008, 02:46:22 am
Can anyone tell me how the mass transit system is in New Hampshire?  Can I get around without a car?  Maybe just use a bike, walk, or take the bus.  How about in Manchester specifically?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: John Edward Mercier on June 24, 2008, 08:17:57 am
Manchester more than likely...
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Porcupine The Godful Heathen on June 24, 2008, 08:59:37 am
Can anyone tell me how the mass transit system is in New Hampshire? Can I get around without a car? Maybe just use a bike, walk, or take the bus. How about in Manchester specifically? Thanks.

There is very little "mass transit system" type thing in New Hampshire. It is mostly a rural state, but Manchester does have a bus system, so does Portsmouth which (I believe) shares it with Dover a near by town. Not sure about Keene and Concord although I wouldn't be surprised if they each had one.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Fishercat on June 24, 2008, 09:45:36 am
Concord has 3 or 4 bus routes, running into the center of town (the capitol building, etc.)
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: dalebert on June 24, 2008, 09:52:47 am
Manchester isn't very big and somewhat flat. If you plan it right, you can live close to where you work and get by with walking or biking. Keene is even more amenable to walking and biking with some good planning. Some of my friends there bike most everywhere even though they have cars. There are lots of stores and homes close together near the main square (though it's really circle). Portsmouth has a commuter train to Boston. I know some people who plan to live in Portsmouth while one of them continues school in Boston via that train. Not sure how practical that is. Nice thing about it is you can be reading or working on a laptop on the train so the time doesn't have to be wasted.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on June 24, 2008, 03:15:48 pm
Thank you for the info there.  It's just that gas is a pain and I want to save as much money as I can.  I hate debt, as mentioned earlier. :)  So I don't want to be making car payments if I don't have to.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on June 24, 2008, 03:57:12 pm
Manchester isn't very big and somewhat flat.

Actually, Manchester is built in a river valley between two hills. The west side is quite steep, and once you get east of about Lincoln or Wilson Street, it starts sloping upward for quite some distance. If you tend to stay between Elm and Lincoln/Wilson, or only travel north–south on foot, it is more or less flat, however.

Terrain map (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.981356,-71.455379&ie=UTF8&spn=0.019874,0.034161&t=p&z=15).
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: dalebert on June 24, 2008, 08:19:47 pm
If you tend to stay between Elm and Lincoln/Wilson, or only travel north–south on foot, it is more or less flat, however.

I guess those are the areas where I spent most of my time.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 05, 2008, 04:28:02 pm
What is the presence of unions in New Hampshire?  I mean, how much control do they have over business practices in that state specifically?  And is there any hope of fighting back against employer/employee restrictions?  Regarding union, as well as government, intervention?

Because where I work here in California (at a grocery store called Vons) it's just awful.  Vons runs its business in such an inefficient manner, it makes absolutely no sense to me.  I know the union and the government are encouraging it, probably to reach fuller-employment or some nonsense goal like that, and I know the government is forcing taxpayers to subsidize this inefficiency, which is like a double-tax on consumers, and all of it is just ridiculous.

I have to pay $8 each week to this damn union and they don't protect me in any way.  My experience so far is that all they really do is limit my freedom as a worker and my employer's freedom.  They think they know whats best for me and they take my money and my freedom in the process.

What's with all these unnecessary middlemen?  What's the hope of ever getting back to basic employer-employee relationships and contracts without worrying about state, federal, or union laws?  Is the climate in New Hampshire regarding these issues more amiable to our cause?

There's also some nonsense here that my family informed me of about not being able to "fire" anyone.  You have to say "Your services are no longer required" or some other precise words.  Not sure exactly why, perhaps something to do with the risk of lawsuits.  But if I pay you money to provide a service and I feel that you are not worth the investment then I should be able to fire you.  Unless we have a contract that says I'll give you two weeks notice, or a warning, or something.  But other then that, if I'm paying you my money and you're not doing what I'm paying you for, then of course I can fire your ass.  ;D

Makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: maxxoccupancy on July 05, 2008, 05:15:59 pm
Seabrook is also excellent in terms of not needing a car, especially if you live near Route 1.  Within 15 minutes walk, I can reach town hall, Starbucks, the Post Office, Home Depot, Shaws, the Seabrook Community Center, GNC, Wendy's, and about two dozen other banks and businesses.  It's not much of a worry, then, if your car breaks down, or even if you don't have one.  The town is so conveniently put together that you can walk almost anywhere within a half hour.

When I do drive somewhere, it only takes me about five minutes to reach my destination.  There's hardly any traffic even in summer.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: John Edward Mercier on July 05, 2008, 08:45:59 pm
Some unions exist, but most employment is contractual at the individual level. Hourly employees are mostly contractual under 'employed at will'... meaning either party may chose to dissolve the contract without reason.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Denis Goddard on July 06, 2008, 03:23:17 pm
There is a strong anti-union (or, better put, pro only VOLUNTARY unionization) caucus, primarily among the republicans, in the NH legislature
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Dreepa on July 06, 2008, 09:01:27 pm

Because where I work here in California (at a grocery store called Vons)
I remember the big Vons worker strike a few years ago.
I loved crossing that picket line.   ;D
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 12, 2008, 06:51:27 am
There is a strong anti-union (or, better put, pro only VOLUNTARY unionization) caucus, primarily among the republicans, in the NH legislature
That's good to know.  Thanks.


Because where I work here in California (at a grocery store called Vons)
I remember the big Vons worker strike a few years ago.
I loved crossing that picket line.   ;D
Yah, I remember the strike because my mom used to work for Vons but never went to strike and then ended up quiting.

I bet you got a lot of shit for crossing that line, haha.  ;D
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Ron Helwig on July 12, 2008, 07:54:04 am
I remember the big Vons worker strike a few years ago.
I loved crossing that picket line.   ;D
I bet you got a lot of shit for crossing that line, haha.  ;D

I've met Dreepa in person. I would take that bet.  ;D
[Hint: I would rather get into a brawl with WWE's Kane than Dreepa.]
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: dalebert on July 12, 2008, 08:14:25 am
Dreepa looks like he could twist head's off like bottle tops. He's one of those guys that you keep thinking to yourself "I'm glad he's on OUR side."
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 12, 2008, 04:44:30 pm
When we protest I'm staying close by him then, haha.  I'm roughly 5'7'' and weight 120 lbs.  How big is dreepa exactly?
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Ron Helwig on July 13, 2008, 07:25:50 am
When we protest I'm staying close by him then, haha.  I'm roughly 5'7'' and weight 120 lbs.  How big is dreepa exactly?

I looked for a picture I remember seeing with Kane, Dreepa, Bald Eagle, and Powerchuter all standing in a row guarding Ron Paul's access to the 2008 Liberty Forum. I couldn't find it quickly.
However, here's a pic of Dreepa shaking hands with Ron Paul: http://freestateproject.org/index.php?q=gallery&g2_itemId=8884
And here's one of him talking to Kane: http://freestateproject.org/index.php?q=gallery&g2_itemId=9960

Kane's a pretty cool guy himself, BTW.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: dalebert on July 13, 2008, 07:51:30 am
Where's the video of when Dreepa bitch-slapped Kane and Kane curled up in a corner crying?

We should come up with our own Chuck Norris jokes and substitute "Dreepa".
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: maxxoccupancy on July 15, 2008, 11:41:48 pm
I never cross any picket line because I frequently see the conditions that lead to strike.  People get fired for blowing the whistle on something, get legitemate overtime redlined.  People get fired for not being submissive enough, or for speaking out.  People have faced retaliation, threats of firing, and harassment on the job.

And the mainstream media always portrays management as this unintended victim, while the workers are, "making unrealistic demands," and shouting all the time. Gimme a break.  A store that is so bad to their workers that they can get American workers to view union as the lesser of two evils will not get my business.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 15, 2008, 11:51:59 pm
A store that is so bad to their workers that they can get American workers to view union as the lesser of two evils will not get my business.
Haha, good point.  Although I don't know if most Americans think unions are a bad thing.  I know most the people at my Vons are upset by the union, but I always got the impression that the general public's opinion of unions was a positive one.  That will have to change. :)
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: John Edward Mercier on July 16, 2008, 07:57:05 am
We solved that in NH. We have 'employed at will' meaning either party... employer or employee... can break the employment agreement without cause.

Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Dreepa on July 16, 2008, 09:53:59 pm
Where's the video of when Dreepa bitch-slapped Kane and Kane curled up in a corner crying?

We should come up with our own Chuck Norris jokes and substitute "Dreepa".

There is a picture somewhere of Kane putting me in a headlock.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on July 17, 2008, 03:08:23 pm
We solved that in NH. We have 'employed at will' meaning either party... employer or employee... can break the employment agreement without cause.

Is that how it actually works? When framed that way, it sounds like the State is interfering in people’s rights to contract with another—certainly not a pro-freedom idea.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: MaineShark on July 17, 2008, 03:25:51 pm
We solved that in NH. We have 'employed at will' meaning either party... employer or employee... can break the employment agreement without cause.
Is that how it actually works? When framed that way, it sounds like the State is interfering in people’s rights to contract with another—certainly not a pro-freedom idea.

No, you can still have a contract.  What John means is that in NH, you have the option of an employed-at-will agreement, which some other states prohibit.  Since it is available, most employment is under that setup.

Joe
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 17, 2008, 07:49:06 pm
This all sounds a lot better then what we have here in California. :)  Can't wait to get over there and get started on some projects.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on July 17, 2008, 07:53:20 pm
This all sounds a lot better then what we have here in California. :)  Can't wait to get over there and get started on some projects.

What’s still keeping you?
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 17, 2008, 08:47:37 pm
Well, my birthday is August 5th, and so I'm gonna spend these last few weeks with my friends and family, and then a week after I turn 18 I'll be out of here for good. :)  Already put in my two weeks notice for my crappy job at Vons, haha.

Plus, I am very interested in being a part of a documentary that Christina Heller, who has filmed a mini-documentary for the FSP before, will be creating soon.  She said she will be in L.A. around August 7, 8, 9, or something similar to that, and so we will meet and do filming for the documentary before I leave for N.H.

Still haven't told my parents about any of this.  :-X  Have to get the balls to do that soon.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on July 17, 2008, 10:46:30 pm
Well, my birthday is August 5th, and so I'm gonna spend these last few weeks with my friends and family, and then a week after I turn 18 I'll be out of here for good. :)  Already put in my two weeks notice for my crappy job at Vons, haha.

Excellent!
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 18, 2008, 01:09:55 am
Can anyone tell me the cost of living in New Hampshire?  I mean, for you personally, how much does it cost per month for you to live in NH, and what do those costs entail?  Housing, food, utilities, other expenses, etc.  If anyone could give me a rough estimate of these things then I'd appreciate it.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Ron Helwig on July 18, 2008, 06:14:59 am
Plus, I am very interested in being a part of a documentary that Christina Heller, who has filmed a mini-documentary for the FSP before, will be creating soon.  She said she will be in L.A. around August 7, 8, 9, or something similar to that, and so we will meet and do filming for the documentary before I leave for N.H.

That could be excellent. They've filmed at my place. It would be great to have some movers shown before and after in their documentary.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: margomaps on July 18, 2008, 08:23:43 am
Can anyone tell me the cost of living in New Hampshire?  I mean, for you personally, how much does it cost per month for you to live in NH, and what do those costs entail?  Housing, food, utilities, other expenses, etc.  If anyone could give me a rough estimate of these things then I'd appreciate it.  Thanks.

2-3 weeks to go, and you're just now considering some of these things?  Time to get busy!  :)

Housing: varies wildly.  If you rent a room from a porc, it could be as little as $350/mo.  If you get a decent apartment, it might be $1,000/mo
Food: if you mostly cook and don't eat out, you should be able to get by on $50/week
Utilities: varies wildly by time of year.  If it's included in rent, great!  Otherwise all bets are off.  Roughly between $150-$500/mo (heat, electric, internet, phone)
Insurance: if you decide to insure your vehicle (which you don't have to in NH), I've found rates to be quite good.  But it varies wildly by age and other factors.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: Sam A. Robrin on July 18, 2008, 02:12:03 pm
One thing I was unprepared for when I went out on my own at 17 was the huge amount of money needed to get set up.  No one ever mentioned the first and last months' rent deposits to me, or the deposits and connection fees for utilities.  You needed about four months' worth of living expenses up front just to get started.  Just renting a room for a time while you save for those expenses will help cushion you a bit.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 18, 2008, 04:33:21 pm
Thanks for the info from both of you. :)



Can anyone tell me why its so expensive just to attend a community college?  Over here in California I can go to Fullerton Junior College and only pay $25 for a three credit class, while I have to pay $525 for the same class at Manchester Community College - and yes, that's the in-state cost.

My family and I can't afford to pay over $2,000 just for 12 credits at a community college.  :'(  I have no problem teaching my self everything I want to learn, without attending college at all, but it seems like some kind of a degree is necessary to get involved with the things I wanna be involved with, such as a career in politics.  If you can show me a demographic that will vote for someone with my high school grades (which are just plain awful) and no post-high school education, then I will gladly skip college, haha.  But that isn't likely.

Any explanation on why schools in New Hampshire are so expensive?  Is it less state spending?  Less federal spending?  Less taxes and inflation?  But as of now it just sucks that my parents have paid into the system over here in California, both through taxes and inflation, and now, since I'm moving to NH, I get no benefit for the money that was taken from them and I actually have to spend more for college.

Any thoughts?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: NHArticleTen on July 18, 2008, 04:49:49 pm

Any explanation on why schools in New Hampshire are so expensive?

Maybe because in NH the student is actually being required to pay for their OWN education...while the socialists in CA are robbing Peter to pay for Paul's education...

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  Is it less state spending?  Less federal spending?  Less taxes and inflation?

Please explain where this supposed "state" "gets" what you claim it is, or isn't spending...same with this supposed "federal"...

Less theft and robbery(taxes) would allow you more opportunity to be able to pay your own way...
Less theft and robbery inherent in the runaway printing of the USD(supposed "inflation") would also protect the value of the money you currently have in your pocket...

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But as of now it just sucks that my parents have paid into the system over here in California, both through taxes and inflation, and now, since I'm moving to NH, I get no benefit for the money that was taken from them and I actually have to spend more for college.

Much the same as the supposed "social security" scam/ponzi-scheme(you're familiar with those, right?) pretty much everything stolen by the supposed "state" is sent back out to the looters, bureaucrats, jackboots, and mercenaries...

In your reference that you will "get no benefit for the money that was taken from them"...yep, you're correct...the only way you'll "get" a "benefit" is to advocate aggression/force/fraud and the theft and robbery of others to "get" "your" "benefits"...

Sucks to be your parents...
Sucks to be you...
California...
Sucks...

RAD

Enjoy!


Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: KBCraig on July 18, 2008, 04:50:57 pm
You pretty much answered your own question: the California tuition is ridiculously low because of high subsidies. I don't know how much MCC is subsidized, but if they charge $525 for three credit hours, there can't be much subsidy, if any.

Higher level schools in NH (Dartmouth, SNHU) are expensive because they're private, and provide excellent educations.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 18, 2008, 05:20:31 pm
Maybe because in NH the student is actually being required to pay for their OWN education...while the socialists in CA are robbing Peter to pay for Paul's education...
That's what I figured. :)

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Less theft and robbery(taxes) would allow you more opportunity to be able to pay your own way...
Less theft and robbery inherent in the runaway printing of the USD(supposed "inflation") would also protect the value of the money you currently have in your pocket...
So I know. :)  And the runaway printing of the USD is inflation, not just supposed inflation.

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In your reference that you will "get no benefit for the money that was taken from them"...yep, you're correct...the only way you'll "get" a "benefit" is to advocate aggression/force/fraud and the theft and robbery of others to "get" "your" "benefits"...
Nah, that's not the only way.  I could have kept my money to begin with.

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Sucks to be your parents...
Sucks to be you...
Not really. :)
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 18, 2008, 05:25:19 pm
You pretty much answered your own question: the California tuition is ridiculously low because of high subsidies. I don't know how much MCC is subsidized, but if they charge $525 for three credit hours, there can't be much subsidy, if any.

Higher level schools in NH (Dartmouth, SNHU) are expensive because they're private, and provide excellent educations.
Yah, that is what I figured was the issue.  I'll have to see if I can manage to afford it over there, but my parents aren't too thrilled about the prices, haha.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: NHArticleTen on July 18, 2008, 06:40:33 pm
Less theft and robbery inherent in the runaway printing of the USD(supposed "inflation") would also protect the value of the money you currently have in your pocket...
So I know. :)  And the runaway printing of the USD is inflation, not just supposed inflation.

I'd like to correct and clarify something for you here...

"Inflation" does actually occur when the price of a good or service "inflates"...as in...goes up because of any and all factors OTHER THAN MONEY MANIPULATION...

We should teach ourselves to NEVER use "inflation" in place of "devaluation" "theft" "robbery" and "treason against individual sovereign human beings"...

What we are experiencing now, with the US Dollar, is the systematic "devaluation" of each and every circulating dollar by the runaway printing of more fiat paper...

Obviously, if the dollar in your pocket is being devalued every second(which it is) it "exchanges" for less...because it is "worth" "less" and so sellers continually ask more for their products and services when those prices are valued in the flailing and failing US Dollar...

Here is a simple example for you...when gold was $50USD per troy ounce you could buy a horse for two troy ounces...today you can still buy a horse for two troy ounces of gold...of course, with today's gold price at $950USD per troy ounce you can see that the "worth" of $100USD in 1908 now costs you $1900USD in 2008...

Gold has not "inflated"...the US Dollar's "value" / "purchasing power" has been stolen by the money-masters at the FED and the IMF...

I know that might seem hard to comprehend but it will sink in eventually...

and, of course that means you not only get screwed when you pay higher prices for goods and services than you did a couple of years ago...
but you also are getting screwed because the $15.00USD  per hour you were making then, and now...is now "worth" "less" so you have actually "received" a pay "cut"...

Go figure...

Enjoy!

Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: John Edward Mercier on July 18, 2008, 08:09:59 pm
You should understand economics before clarification.
The United States owns the dollar... its controlled by its representatives in Congress and their managers at the Fed.
Since no one is required to trade in or hold US dollar commodities... nothing is ever stolen. You've simply inherited market risk.



Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 18, 2008, 08:16:39 pm
Less theft and robbery inherent in the runaway printing of the USD(supposed "inflation") would also protect the value of the money you currently have in your pocket...
So I know. :)  And the runaway printing of the USD is inflation, not just supposed inflation.

I'd like to correct and clarify something for you here...

"Inflation" does actually occur when the price of a good or service "inflates"...as in...goes up because of any and all factors OTHER THAN MONEY MANIPULATION...
Understood.  But inflation, in another context, and according to another equally sound definition, is an increase in the money supply.  As long as we are clear on which inflation we are talking about then there is no reason both can not be used.  Though I prefer to say "price inflation" to specify that I am talking about prices specifically, rather than just the currency.  But to each his own.

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What we are experiencing now, with the US Dollar, is the systematic "devaluation" of each and every circulating dollar by the runaway printing of more fiat paper...
i.e. runaway inflation

We are just using different words to describe the same thing.  But inflation defined as an increase in the supply of money is a valid definition and there's no reason we can't use it.

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Obviously, if the dollar in your pocket is being devalued every second(which it is) it "exchanges" for less...because it is "worth" "less" and so sellers continually ask more for their products and services when those prices are valued in the flailing and failing US Dollar...

Here is a simple example for you...when gold was $50USD per troy ounce you could buy a horse for two troy ounces...today you can still buy a horse for two troy ounces of gold...of course, with today's gold price at $950USD per troy ounce you can see that the "worth" of $100USD in 1908 now costs you $1900USD in 2008...

Gold has not "inflated"...the US Dollar's "value" / "purchasing power" has been stolen by the money-masters at the FED and the IMF...

I know that might seem hard to comprehend but it will sink in eventually...
Dude, what are you talking about?  Has it not been made clear to you that I know what inflation is.  I know about purchasing power, I know how inflation causes rising prices.  I don't need lectures on fundamental issues like this, and your patronising tone at the end of the quoted section is just unwarranted. :)

If you sincerely think that I am ignorant of these very basic concepts and your intentions were only to help then I apologise for responding in such a manner; but, to me, it seems that your posts, at least the ones that have been directed at myself, are always very condescending in nature, and there is no reason for that to be.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: NHArticleTen on July 19, 2008, 09:16:44 am
You should understand economics before clarification.
The United States owns the dollar... its controlled by its representatives in Congress and their managers at the Fed.
Since no one is required to trade in or hold US dollar commodities... nothing is ever stolen. You've simply inherited market risk.

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Since no one is required to trade in or hold US dollar commodities... nothing is ever stolen. You've simply inherited market risk.

Others who have attempted to pay their "taxes" in some other "money/commodity" might sing a different tune...

The "value" in one 1908 USD is NOT the same "value" found in one 2008 USD(as evidenced by the exchange rate between USD and gold)...
Where did that "value" go...
It was stolen by the money-masters...

"Market risk" assumes that we don't have to "use" that "market"...
When you're forced at gunpoint to "use" that "market" that's robbery in my book...

Why do you defend the looters, bureaucrats, jackboots, and mercenaries...
Birds of a feather, flock together...

Go figure...
Enjoy!

Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: NHArticleTen on July 19, 2008, 09:37:06 am
Less theft and robbery inherent in the runaway printing of the USD(supposed "inflation") would also protect the value of the money you currently have in your pocket...
So I know. :)  And the runaway printing of the USD is inflation, not just supposed inflation.

I'd like to correct and clarify something for you here...

"Inflation" does actually occur when the price of a good or service "inflates"...as in...goes up because of any and all factors OTHER THAN MONEY MANIPULATION...
Understood.  But inflation, in another context, and according to another equally sound definition, is an increase in the money supply.  As long as we are clear on which inflation we are talking about then there is no reason both can not be used.  Though I prefer to say "price inflation" to specify that I am talking about prices specifically, rather than just the currency.  But to each his own.

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What we are experiencing now, with the US Dollar, is the systematic "devaluation" of each and every circulating dollar by the runaway printing of more fiat paper...
i.e. runaway inflation

We are just using different words to describe the same thing.  But inflation defined as an increase in the supply of money is a valid definition and there's no reason we can't use it.

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Obviously, if the dollar in your pocket is being devalued every second(which it is) it "exchanges" for less...because it is "worth" "less" and so sellers continually ask more for their products and services when those prices are valued in the flailing and failing US Dollar...

Here is a simple example for you...when gold was $50USD per troy ounce you could buy a horse for two troy ounces...today you can still buy a horse for two troy ounces of gold...of course, with today's gold price at $950USD per troy ounce you can see that the "worth" of $100USD in 1908 now costs you $1900USD in 2008...

Gold has not "inflated"...the US Dollar's "value" / "purchasing power" has been stolen by the money-masters at the FED and the IMF...

I know that might seem hard to comprehend but it will sink in eventually...
Dude, what are you talking about?  Has it not been made clear to you that I know what inflation is.  I know about purchasing power, I know how inflation causes rising prices.  I don't need lectures on fundamental issues like this, and your patronising tone at the end of the quoted section is just unwarranted. :)

If you sincerely think that I am ignorant of these very basic concepts and your intentions were only to help then I apologise for responding in such a manner; but, to me, it seems that your posts, at least the ones that have been directed at myself, are always very condescending in nature, and there is no reason for that to be.

Whew, the temperature here in the Caymans has sure inflated lately...
It's inflated from 87 degrees to 93 degrees in just the last hour alone...

The Jamaican next to me here at the pool just said...

"Hey mon, don't you be meanin' the tempurature has increased...not inflated"

and I replied...

"Ya mon, not only that, mon...but the price of my Mai Tais just inflated while I was increasing my increasable raft..."

And...
As Jeff Foxworthy says...
http://www.fox.com/areyousmarter/

Don't take it personally...
Unless you haven't won that million...

Go figure...
Enjoy!


Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: rossby on July 19, 2008, 10:09:41 am
So I know. :)  And the runaway printing of the USD is inflation, not just supposed inflation.

Runaway printing of notes causes inflation. But it is not inflation by itself.

Printing money increases the money supply. Inflation is the increase in prices over time. The former causes the latter. But other things can cause it too.

Just attempting to clarify.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: John Edward Mercier on July 19, 2008, 10:33:33 am
Trade is a voluntary function... taxation (unless your Harry Reid) is not.

You are never 'forced' to use the market to trade.
 
If the US dollar devalues than all other commodities inflate in proportion... thus the difference between these items valuation is not specific to the dollar valuation.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 19, 2008, 03:09:38 pm
Yes, I know.  Inflation means rising prices.

BUT...

it also means, according to the Austrian school definition, which many Austrian economists still use, an increase in the money supply.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

Check out the section that says "Related Definitions"
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: KBCraig on July 20, 2008, 07:26:37 pm
... it seems that your posts, at least the ones that have been directed at myself, are always very condescending in nature, and there is no reason for that to be.

Sure there's a reason: he only knows two modes of communication. One is condescension, the other is threats of violence.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: JAC on July 20, 2008, 07:28:13 pm
... it seems that your posts, at least the ones that have been directed at myself, are always very condescending in nature, and there is no reason for that to be.

Sure there's a reason: he only knows two modes of communication. One is condescension, the other is threats of violence.
Ah, of course.  I should have known. :)  Thank you.
Title: Re: Several Questions From A 17 Year Old Prospect
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on July 22, 2008, 11:37:59 pm
"Inflation" does actually occur when the price of a good or service "inflates"...as in...goes up because of any and all factors OTHER THAN MONEY MANIPULATION...

We should teach ourselves to NEVER use "inflation" in place of "devaluation" "theft" "robbery" and "treason against individual sovereign human beings"...

I’ve always thought of inflation in the context of money to only mean manipulation, not rising prices due to other factors. The money supply is what’s being inflated.

Another good term is debasement