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Title: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on January 15, 2008, 01:05:30 am
Many prospective movers have already signed up on this site.  However, if you are planning on coming here before 20,000 is reached, before September 2011, please help us out by signing up at the Next 1000 site.  A few of us are really working hard at making this project as big a success as the First 1,000.

As many of you know, we only gave ourselves aboot one year to sign people up for the First 1,000, and it was a tremendous effort getting the signatures needed to hit our goal.  You can also help out from your homestate by talking to fellow liberty activists in your state aboot the fsp.  That kernel of an idea may germinate in their mind years from now when they are considering selling their house and moving out anyway.  NH may become a potential destination for them.

www.pledgebank.com/Next1000
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: JasonPSorens on January 15, 2008, 09:18:50 am
I need to make the qualification that this is unofficial. This Next 1000 project is Max's, not the FSP's. The FSP will have new signup options on our Join page soon that will allow people to select their own numeric triggers and time frame for moving. So feel free to sign up for Max's pledge, but be aware that the FSP isn't doing any validation or follow-up with it.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on January 15, 2008, 11:34:14 am
I need to make the qualification that Jason is still living in New York.  There are, in fact, several porcs already hard at work on the second wave, which was discussed at some length on other boards before I even got back from my last ship.  I was just the guy who took input for the sign up and move dates and put them up in the form of an actual pledge.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: JasonPSorens on January 15, 2008, 11:54:34 am
I need to make the qualification that Jason is still living in New York.  There are, in fact, several porcs already hard at work on the second wave, which was discussed at some length on other boards before I even got back from my last ship.  I was just the guy who took input for the sign up and move dates and put them up in the form of an actual pledge.

I don't know why you're being so annoying lately, Max. It's as if you're trying to stir up trouble or controversy of some kind.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on January 15, 2008, 01:34:13 pm
This is not the place for ad hominem, but for recruiting new people.  I have been sending personal messages to folks when I had a personal disagreement with them, and I think that that should be the standard if the issue doesn't involve everyone else reading the forum, but that's a topic for another thread.

If you are surprised that I am promoting controversy, then you don't know me that well.

I like to fight!
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: JasonPSorens on January 15, 2008, 03:02:40 pm

I like to fight!

Well, I don't, so lay off please.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: lloydbob1 on January 15, 2008, 05:02:26 pm
I want to see a duel between Jason & Max!  Probably put us to sleep ;D
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: sj on January 15, 2008, 10:13:02 pm
I think one is advised to attack his enemies, if he must, but not his friends.  We're all friends here.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on January 16, 2008, 12:37:32 pm
It's very important that we recruit movers and activists.  It's good that the first 500 are figuring out how to do things, but we really have to bring in 2,000 people.  The more, the better.

We also have to reach other people who are politically active already--convert our enemies and make friends of the rest.  I've found that college is a good place for that.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: Keyser Soce on January 17, 2008, 04:16:53 am
I want to see a duel between Jason & Max!  Probably put us to sleep ;D

This is why we have chess and poker. And paintball.  ;D
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on January 18, 2008, 12:18:41 pm
One week into our pledge, the signup rate gives us over 1700 signers by the deadline.  Deja vu.  This is just like the First 1,000 all over again.  You get that big initial surge, then have to enlist volunteers to plug away at the project until you get your thousand.  We came in very close last time around.

Hopefully, a large onset of next wavers will encourage more of the First 1,000 and other freestaters to get off their butt and make the move--or at least scrimp and save for the big move.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: CA_Libertarian on January 19, 2008, 01:51:40 pm
Unlike the F1K, N1K benefits from the snowball effect.  We can see what you guys are doing there.  We know there's a network in place to help us find housing and employment, etc.  This makes it that much easier to take the plunge.

I bet we'll easily beat the deadline by several months.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on January 19, 2008, 03:27:24 pm
There's an unofficial deadline of Dec 2009 in order to allow plenty of time for folks to make the move.  That extra year (Dec 2010) was added as a buffer--just in case we don't have enough sigs within two years.  I actually hesitated a bit on the First 1,000 because I didn't agree with some of the decisions made, there.  The Next 1,000 pledge gives us more time and allows people to sign up who may have been excluded from the First 1,000.

Any ideas for a logo?  New pic on the pledge?
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: mappchik on January 28, 2008, 10:00:50 am
Our plan is to make the move after our oldest finishes middle school next year. Since it's time to change schools anyway, it seems to be a good transition time for everyone. This will give us plenty of time to sign up before the Dec 2009 deadline. I just don't want to sign on officially until we have a definite move date on the calendar.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on January 28, 2008, 06:38:47 pm
For goodness sakes.  Next 1,000 (and fsp, in general I think) is based on intent.  We have set the move in deadline by September of 2011 to catch as many people as possible.  Agreeing to make the move isn't the same as joining a monestary.  We're just saying that we plan to do this--barring acts of nature and Congress.

I've actually had a few people ask me about this, and there's nothing wrong with signing up--even if something down the road causes you to miss the deadline.  In fact, no one would be able to sign unconditionally, except for people who are already here today, which would kind of defeat the purpose.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on January 31, 2008, 12:48:47 am
We just hit 19 signers.  At this rate of one per day, we'll just barely hit our goal.  We can get quite a bit more attention by placing the link www.pledgebank.com/Next1000 in our signatures and by recruiting from the ranks of RP activists.  There was a tremendous amount of advertising and get-out-the-word effort that helped make the First 1,000 successful.  I think that a similar strategy would work with Next 1,000.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on February 08, 2008, 11:09:14 pm
All right, I've got a new pic up on the website.  This one is of Mt. Washington, and I'm hoping that this will draw more people to the effort than the photo of kids snowmobiling on a frozen lake.  Who knows, maybe that's a bigger draw than "This car climbed Mt. Washington" eh.
Title: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on May 07, 2008, 01:42:52 am
We're up to 31 signers so far (six of whom have already moved), so I felt it would be worthwhile to post an update on the Next 1,000 project:

1. We've just started another run of ads on the Ridley Report, improving exposure and brand association with the Next 1,000 project.  There will also be a Next 1,000 table at Porcfest '08 "The Ocho," though we are still in need of volunteers to man the table.  Anyone willing to man the table for an hour or two, just PM me and I'll give you the info--or you can just sit down at the table at random and BS your way through people's questions.

2. The FSP Board rejected our effort to buy an ad in the FSP Newsletter.  The concern mentioned was that this would detract from the personal triggers effort.  This was an unfortunate setback for the effort, but the Board's decision was final.  The FSP Newsletter reaches 12,000 people, mostly potential movers.

3. We're putting together a kind of Board of Directors of sorts, using this thread as a kind of virtual meeting place to develop ideas for reaching people.  Anyone interested in joining this online Board is welcome to do so.  I expect this to eat up roughly one hour per week for those wanting to contribute this way.  Again, please PM me if you are interested in joining up or volunteering.

4.  www.pledgebank.com/Next1000 is being used as the site for comments and updates on the project.  Feel free to drop some supportive comments or constructive ideas for folks considering the move.

5. We're still targeting Operation Live Free or Die folks for the Next 1,000.  Some of the best places for recruiting new movers have been New York and New England activist groups.  They tend to be easier to reach and have been more likely to make the move.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on May 08, 2008, 09:32:25 pm
For the record, there have been about a dozen different people contributing to the Next 1,000 that I'm aware of, and I'd like to acknowledge some of them here.

Dave Ridley
Jim Flaherty
David Tapley
sjhipple
nathanm
jraxis

And many more thanks to all of the folks whose names I missed.  We are also setting up a kind of Next 1,000 Board of Directors.  If there is anyone out there interested in getting involved with this, just jump in and we'll get some activities rolling.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on May 09, 2008, 03:10:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6-9-LqPygE&NR=1

This video is on topic, I swear.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: Fishercat on May 09, 2008, 04:06:40 pm
I've been Ozzie-Rolled?
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: margomaps on May 09, 2008, 05:24:08 pm
I've been Ozzie-Rolled?

Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking.  I don't get the connection to this thread.  Max?
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on May 09, 2008, 07:03:08 pm
Okay, okay.  It may be a bit off topic, eh.  Anyway, this is definitely a project worth helping out.  I think that we'll have the state once we have about 2,000 activists, and others have stated the same.  I think that this is a more realistic target, and I don't think that we'd need more than that, to be honest.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: Keyser Soce on May 09, 2008, 08:30:12 pm
I've been Ozzie-Rolled?

Better than being Rick Rolled. Right? :P
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on May 14, 2008, 11:55:57 pm
Anyway, we're in need of both Board members and volunteers for the table at PorcFest 08 "The Ocho." This is very important to the movement in general.  Also, check out www.freestatenow.com which has a lot of good success stories aboot folks who've made the move.

We're all asked to volunteer for things, and there are a lot of projects out there to work on, but the most important task of all is getting more activists here in NH in order participate in some of those projects. 
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: Ron Helwig on May 15, 2008, 07:41:53 am
Also, check out www.freestatenow.com which has a lot of good success stories aboot folks who've made the move.
It should be pointed out that http://freestatenow.com (http://freestatenow.com) is a work in progress. The success stories are all Ridleos of movers - Thanks, Dave!
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on May 15, 2008, 10:29:54 pm
And it's a fantastic work in progress, eh.  Fantastic!   If anything, the rest of us should feel grateful for the opportunity to even LOOK at that site.  As though, by having seen freestatenow.com , that now, all other sites were as not even Web sites at all.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 29, 2008, 04:49:51 pm
We are planning on putting together an order for Next 1,000 sweat pants (since everyone already has T-shirts for everything).  The sweatpants are a bit more expensive than shirts, but are useful year round and look really nice.

If anyone has ideas for the design running down the leg, or if you would like to order a pair yourself, please PM me and give me your sizes.  They should run around $18-20, and are great if you already plan on getting some sweatpants for yourself or a loved one.

N1
E0
X0
T0

We're up to 41 signers, already, and are making progress toward our goal.  Anyone who mentioned an interest in joining the Next 1,000 Board can contact me or reply to this posting.  The Board will meet once a month for an hour or two to propose ways to reach future mover-activists.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: Russell Kanning on June 29, 2008, 08:01:10 pm
I want to see a duel between Jason & Max!  Probably put us to sleep ;D
save me Maaaxxxx!
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: Russell Kanning on June 29, 2008, 08:02:55 pm
2. The FSP Board rejected our effort to buy an ad in the FSP Newsletter.  The concern mentioned was that this would detract from the personal triggers effort.  This was an unfortunate setback for the effort, but the Board's decision was final.  The FSP Newsletter reaches 12,000 people, mostly potential movers.
I'm with ya Max .... if I was on the FSP Board or had a newsletter that would be good to advertize in ... I would have loved to have your ad .... but I can't help you.

Good luck with next 1000
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 29, 2008, 09:16:44 pm
I think that it's groupthink, you know.  A whole committee starts reasoning their way through something and arrives at a decision that is much worse than any of them would make individually.  When I repeated this reasoning to other folks, they almost always give me a quizical look and just say, "What were they thinking?  Why would one detract from the other?" or something to that effect...

Anyway, we have more folks signing up, and the word is getting out about the project.  I've paid for some more Ridley ads, so my end of things (advertising for N1K) is going pretty well.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: jrod on July 03, 2008, 01:03:27 pm
I'm signed up, by the way.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: Keyser Soce on July 04, 2008, 10:48:17 am
I'm signed up, by the way.

Congrats! See you soon.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: sj on July 04, 2008, 02:47:58 pm
I'm signed up, by the way.

Great to hear!  ;D  What's your timeline for moving?
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on July 05, 2008, 01:43:11 am
Congratulations!  We can't wait to see you here.  Don't forget to tell all of your liberty minded friends about the FSP and Next 1,000 before making the move.  That gets the idea into people's minds, and helps us later in recruiting.  We've now got a group up on facebook, and everyone is invited to join the group and leave comments.

Also, thanks to everyone for their efforts in getting new signers.  The Next 1,000 is already up to 44 signers.  Don't forget to remind new mover-activists (who weren't part of the First thou) to add their names to the Next 1,000 list, also.  This second wave would get us to the 1500-2,000 activists we need to really get NH back to its roots as a free state.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on July 10, 2008, 01:45:00 am
Also, we have a Next 1,000 Board with a few new members.  Everyone is invited to join and help us come up with ideas for reaching new mover-activists.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on October 08, 2008, 08:18:41 pm
85 signers.  At this last month's present rate, we'll see about 800 signers by the deadline.  Be sure and remind newbies that they should put their name here, and also update their address so that the counter will move.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: sj on October 08, 2008, 08:27:55 pm
85 signers.  At this last month's present rate, we'll see about 800 signers by the deadline.  Be sure and remind newbies that they should put their name here, and also update their address so that the counter will move.

One thing I'm going to start reminding people is that if they update, they can know "their number."  That is, what number mover they were.  It's kind of cool so people might be more likely to update.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on October 15, 2008, 03:44:35 pm
That's actually a really good idea.  I moved, tried to update my address, but never got a number.  I still don't know because I had account troubles early on.

Anyway, I've been reminding folks of the benefit of keeping your address up to date--and the counter.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: coldsoul on October 21, 2008, 04:15:31 am
I signed the next 1000 :)
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: sj on October 21, 2008, 06:38:03 am
I signed the next 1000 :)

If your wife is a freedom-lover, she can sign up for the FSP and the Next 1,000 too.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: coldsoul on October 21, 2008, 05:19:21 pm
Well if you know my wife can you introduce her to me since I haven't meet her yet? Seriously though I am single so it will only be me.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on February 09, 2009, 12:36:55 pm
Now at 104 signers.  If you know of anyone who has moved, or is planning to move, make sure that they have signed up at pledgebank.com/Next1000

We've been reaching out to more folks, but the numbers have been growing more slowly over the last quarter.  Be sure to let folks know about the importance of this one.  Next 1,000 is intended to get another thousand activists here before the next presidential primary.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: Dreepa on February 09, 2009, 02:58:01 pm
Now at 104 signers.  If you know of anyone who has moved, or is planning to move, make sure that they have signed up at pledgebank.com/Next1000

We've been reaching out to more folks, but the numbers have been growing more slowly over the last quarter.  Be sure to let folks know about the importance of this one.  Next 1,000 is intended to get another thousand activists here before the next presidential primary.
we need to get the rest of the first 1000 here.
Title: Re: pledgebank.com/Next1000
Post by: maxxoccupancy on February 12, 2009, 02:07:29 am
I'm not waiting around for that day.  It's likely that one or two hundred will never move here.  Some have already left.