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Title: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 02, 2006, 12:37:05 am
We are looking at summer camps also for porcfest 2007. Let us know if you have one near you that is a good option. :D
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 04, 2006, 04:22:29 pm
http://www.acacamps.org/rentals/
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Ward Griffiths on July 05, 2006, 09:59:35 am
Cedar Waters Village (http://www.nhnude.com) in Nottingham might be nice, but they don't allow singles.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: KBCraig on July 05, 2006, 10:28:53 am
Cedar Waters Village (http://www.nhnude.com) in Nottingham might be nice, but they don't allow singles.

No pets and no alcohol. That's more of a problem for us than the "no clothes" part. Well, by "us" I mean "me".  ;)

Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 05, 2006, 06:57:44 pm
We can have a whole girls scout camp in Antrim for $1400 a day. Just to give you guys an idea. 8)
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: KBCraig on July 06, 2006, 03:42:43 am
We can have a whole girls scout camp in Antrim for $1400 a day. Just to give you guys an idea. 8)

For that price, it better include "girl scouts" of legal age in skimpy uniforms.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: lloydbob1 on July 06, 2006, 07:47:47 am
We can have a whole girls scout camp in Antrim for $1400 a day. Just to give you guys an idea. 8)

For that price, it better include "girl scouts" of legal age in skimpy uniforms.

While I have no quarrel with Kevins suggestion, with only a 100 peole there it is only 14 bucks per person per day. That ain't bad.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: freedomroad on July 06, 2006, 09:54:27 am
We can have a whole girls scout camp in Antrim for $1400 a day. Just to give you guys an idea. 8)

For that price, it better include "girl scouts" of legal age in skimpy uniforms.

While I have no quarrel with Kevins suggestion, with only a 100 peole there it is only 14 bucks per person per day. That ain't bad.

You are right, Lloyd.  Russell, what does this camp offer?
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 06, 2006, 12:31:00 pm
Many buildings that are rainproof. 8)

Actually it would be cool if others want to check out the websites of the many camps that rent out their place.

They all seem to have their own lake. I think many people would like to rent cabins instead of tenting. :) They all have large buildings for eating and the like.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 06, 2006, 12:32:37 pm
You are right, Lloyd.  Russell, what does this camp offer?
http://www.swgirlscouts.org/campchenoa.htm
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: varrin on July 06, 2006, 08:38:08 pm
247 sleeping places plus campsites for ~$1500 a day all together.  Could be a *touch* space limited if we pushed 500+ attendees for the fest (we might) but that'd be a whale of a deal...

V-

Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: freedomroad on July 06, 2006, 08:41:14 pm
247 sleeping places plus campsites for ~$1500 a day all together.  Could be a *touch* space limited if we pushed 500+ attendees for the fest (we might) but that'd be a whale of a deal...

V-



It would not be limited because some people from Nashua and Manchester and Keene and so on would likely drive to the camp for the couple days they found most useful and stay at home the others.  Plus, other people could stay with them.  Also, don't forget the motel crowd.  Plus, there are other near-by camp areas for those that want quite at night.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Ward Griffiths on July 07, 2006, 07:30:32 am
247 sleeping places plus campsites for ~$1500 a day all together.  Could be a *touch* space limited if we pushed 500+ attendees for the fest (we might) but that'd be a whale of a deal...

V-
Those are the enclosed sleeping facilities.  I see no mention on the page as to whether or not there are also places to set up tents.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 07, 2006, 09:25:32 am
I will be calling these camps next week. If any of you guys have preferences as to which ones are best, let me know. :)
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 07, 2006, 12:00:16 pm
http://www.lakesideretreats.com/retreats_newfound.htm
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: lloydbob1 on July 07, 2006, 04:36:19 pm
This is taking too long!  I say we should plan a week up at Rogers......call it 'shaggy dog week' or sumptin. :P
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: KBCraig on July 08, 2006, 01:05:45 am
This is taking too long!  I say we should plan a week up at Rogers......call it 'shaggy dog week' or sumptin. :P

We're equipped for that!

(http://www.etasigma.org/nh2006/nh2006-Images/16.jpg)


Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 13, 2006, 04:13:57 pm
Might be too small http://www.windsormountain.org/syp/facilities.html but I am visiting there on Monday.
Might be good for leaf peeping Shorty Jamboree 8)

Too small for porcfest http://www.glenbrook.org/ but maybe good for Shorty Jam in spring.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 14, 2006, 01:35:24 pm
Getting quotes from a couple of places

http://www.camptakodah.org/
www.campwanocksett.org
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 17, 2006, 12:43:08 pm
Visited here:

http://www.swgirlscouts.org/chenoa.htm

today with Kat and Kira. It would be a nice place.

55minutes from our door
45 min from Concord
1:15 from Nashua
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: katdillon on July 18, 2006, 06:14:10 am
Benefits of the summer camp, as I see it:

We have the whole campground...no strangers to offend with late night parties.
We can set up sections for familites and sections for partiers.
We have a kitchen and can cook large meals for the group.
Kitchen equipment and utensils provided.
More buildings to be out of the rain, have gatherings, music, etc.
Be on a lake :)
More cabins available...makes it easier for people travelling by plane.
Cheaper for everyone.
It'll be more accessible, being in Southern NH.
More opportunities for town tours/other activities in Southern NH.

Downsides:
Have to pre-register people to pay for the camp.
Lots of people like Rogers.
Lloyd will grumble at us.
It would most likely have to be in early June or September.

Any other benefits/downsides?
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: freedomroad on July 18, 2006, 11:19:29 am
Any other benefits/downsides?

Downsides
Camp may not have a pool.  I am sure some people would rather swim in a pool than lake.
Will not be able to influence random campers
Will not have a store that sells food/ice cream/soda and beer for when people are too drunk to drive
Depending on the camp, may have to use low quality roads
May have to clear land to make enough campsites
Will need to organize a massive clean up
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: cathleeninnh on July 18, 2006, 11:36:17 am
RV sites?

I like the idea of a summer camp. Even without rv sites, onsite store, I think the benefits outweigh the costs.

Another difference might be campfires and meals. Summer camps don't always accomodate separate eating and burning stuff but are great at large communal fires and meals. That would be different but maybe an improvement. It also removes partyers from sleepers.

Cathleen   
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 18, 2006, 12:02:43 pm
Downsides

Will not be able to influence random campers
Will not have a store that sells food/ice cream/soda and beer for when people are too drunk to drive

May have to clear land to make enough campsites
Will need to organize a massive clean up
Upside ..... Keith and Stuff will not be able to annoy non-porcupines.
no store :(

No way would any of these places let us "clear land" ..... but they all have enough room for our tents .... or they are off the list. :)
We will have to not be messy. My idea of a good time is not partying for days and then cleaning for days. This will be a good test of the porcupine ethic.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 18, 2006, 12:05:03 pm
RV sites?

I like the idea of a summer camp. Even without rv sites, onsite store, I think the benefits outweigh the costs.

Another difference might be campfires and meals. Summer camps don't always accomodate separate eating and burning stuff but are great at large communal fires and meals. That would be different but maybe an improvement. It also removes partyers from sleepers.

Cathleen   
All of the camps still on the list have multiple places to sleep ..... so we could have a total drunk area, family area, quiet reader/sleeper area .... all sorts of possibilities.
The one we were at yesterday would not have had room for really any RVes.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Dreepa on July 18, 2006, 12:59:50 pm
Camp may not have a pool.  I am sure some people would rather swim in a pool than lake.

That is it... I am not going! :P
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: katdillon on July 18, 2006, 03:21:04 pm
I'm sure we'll miss you, Dreepa.

Re:  cooking....the site we looked at had fire pits near all the cabins, alongside the lake, and at all sorts of nice places to cook or just have a fire.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Pat K on July 18, 2006, 03:45:14 pm
If everbody cleans up there own mess every day, we won't need a massive clean up.

I think Porcs are hardy enough to swim in a lake.


Can keep supplies on hand for when you are drunk, remember the 6 P's.

You could pay some one to be sober and get stuff. You know free market at work.

Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Dreepa on July 18, 2006, 04:08:50 pm
If everbody cleans up there own mess every day, we won't need a massive clean up.

I think Porcs are hardy enough to swim in a lake.


Can keep supplies on hand for when you are drunk, remember the 6 P's.

You could pay some one to be sober and get stuff. You know free market at work.

Pat I wish this had Karma.  I would give you 4 one for each statement above.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: KBCraig on July 18, 2006, 06:02:43 pm
Downsides
Will not have a store that sells food/ice cream/soda and beer for when people are too drunk to drive

Opportunity for capitalism!

Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: katdillon on July 19, 2006, 04:20:38 am
We've only looked at one so far.  There may be others with a store very close :)  Russell got a call yesterday from another camp.  Should be getting some quotes on the cost soon!
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: KBCraig on July 19, 2006, 08:26:20 am
I saw that Gunstock is on the list, and they have a store.

Gunstock looks good from their website, but of course I've never actually been there.

Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: freedomroad on July 19, 2006, 11:27:42 am
I saw that Gunstock is on the list, and they have a store.

Gunstock looks good from their website, but of course I've never actually been there.



Yeah, from what I hear they are the most popular and best campground in NH or something.  It is sup to look nice and is in a wondeful location.  Of course, there was never any doubt that is had a store/pub.  It is the girl scout camps that don't have stores with beer.  Gunstock has a lake and pool with a snack bar, a skate park, kayak and paddle boat rentals, there are even hiking and bike trails on site...

One thing Roger's has over it is showers in more than one location.

Gunstock is a little more expensive for camping, and a lot more if people want offical group meals on site.  Of course, we could do group meals at a near-by park for a lot less...
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: katdillon on July 19, 2006, 06:54:57 pm
The boyscout camp with the firing ranges is $2000 for the week.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 19, 2006, 07:00:53 pm
We will have to visit it in a day or two. 8)
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Otosan on July 19, 2006, 07:09:42 pm
As long as the cost is less than $23 a day, and I have a semi private area to pitch tent and a shower/ bathroom near by and there are hundreds....no thousands FSP there.....is ok with me...... ;D
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Pat K on July 19, 2006, 07:58:51 pm
The boyscout camp with the firing ranges is $2000 for the week.


Well divided up that would be cheap.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Dreepa on July 19, 2006, 08:18:29 pm
As long as the cost is less than $23 a day, and I have a semi private area to pitch tent and a shower/ bathroom near by and there are hundreds....no thousands FSP there.....is ok with me...... ;D
What if it is $24? ;)
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: freedomroad on July 19, 2006, 10:34:55 pm
As long as the cost is less than $23 a day, and I have a semi private area to pitch tent and a shower/ bathroom near by and there are hundreds....no thousands FSP there.....is ok with me...... ;D
What if it is $24? ;)

$24 would be way more than either Rogers or Gunstock if we are talking about the per person cost.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 20, 2006, 12:49:34 am
As long as the cost is less than $23 a day, and I have a semi private area to pitch tent and a shower/ bathroom near by and there are hundreds....no thousands FSP there.....is ok with me...... ;D
What if it is $24? ;)
$24 would be way more than either Rogers or Gunstock if we are talking about the per person cost.
Do you know what a ;) usually means on an online forum?

If we end up at this boyscout camp for anywhere near $2000 for the week, we will be saving tenters more than $100. :)

Maybe we could have something in June and September for those kinds of prices. (maybe Shorty would take over one of them) 8)

I will be getting all the details today.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: katdillon on July 20, 2006, 05:42:41 am
Roger's charges $23-$25/day for a tent site.  I understand that Gunstock is $30/day.  It adds for for those of us who pay.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: freedomroad on July 20, 2006, 10:33:52 am
Roger's charges $23-$25/day for a tent site.  I understand that Gunstock is $30/day.  It adds for for those of us who pay.

Roger's charges $23 to $25 per day.  This allows 2 adults and you can have 4 adults for only $33.  Plus, if you buy 3 you get 2 free.

Gunstock is $25 to $30 per day.  This allows 2 adults and you can have 4 adults for only $37 per day.  So it is $9.25 per day if you are smart and don't mind sharing.  That is not expensive.

However, I agree with you and Russell.  I mean, $2000 for a week would be super cheap if it covered all of us.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 20, 2006, 02:11:54 pm
The boy scout camp (Wanocksett)is pretty nice. The swimming area is great and has lots of boats. There are some cabins and other buildings by the lake. The amphitheatre has electricity and holds a bunch of people. The tenting sites are up the hill mostly and have rustic bathrooms with water. There is one showerhouse in the woods.

The YMCA camp (Takoda) is even better. It has tons of cabins and 3 showerhouses. It has a nice lake area and ballfields etc. They have a nice lodge lakeside with a big covered porch and movie screen. They have a really big dining hall and another building with a small stage. The only problem here is they have to decide if they can live with our drinking parties. I will be talking with them again next week.
Title: Re: Summer Camp as site for 2007
Post by: Otosan on October 01, 2006, 07:12:57 am
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