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Title: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on June 14, 2006, 04:29:14 am
Hello all.  I truly admire what I see and read here.  FSP sounds like a positive thing for sure.  A bit about me:  Just relocated back east from Arizona, another bastion of freedom I must say.  Wife couldn't bear to be from family so now I live in Rhode Island.  Place is a joke.  What it lacks in size it makes up for in corruption.  People here accept it/don't mind it.  I have to get out.  Wife is fed up with job situation here, she has an aunt that lives in NH, she has applied for jobs there, it's close enough to visit her parents, so we shall see.  My main issue is 2nd amendment.  I recently was denied a concealed carry permit by the Attorney General's office here.  After years of gun freedom in AZ you can imagine my frustration.  Even worse, I live in Providence with the gay, rabid anti gun Mayor so I can't approach the town for a permit, which is shall issue by the way.  The locals tell me I don't have a prayer.  Just fed up.  I knew it wouldn't be like AZ but never expected the level of socialist, elitist, connected culture that it is.  Apparently people just vote for Patrick Kennedy (state rep) because they like having their own Kennedy, not making this up, it's like part of the folklore around here.  Anyway, New Hampshire appears to be gun friendly enough for me.  I hope the wife and I can get jobs up there though, we are both educators although I hope to be fulltime coach someday. 

Again, I like what FSP is about.  Live Free or Die is an awesome motto.  Can't say I would look forward to the brutal winters but hey have to take good with the bad I suppose.

I'm mostly just here reading posts but wanted to say hello and hope to join soon.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 14, 2006, 11:06:29 am
Hello jrafe!

Since you're on the East Coast, you really might want to check out PorcFest (http://porcfest.com). It's a great way to meet those of us who have already moved, those who are planning to move, and to see what we've accomplished already (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=11977.msg156744#msg156744).

I also recommend having a look at the Keene Free Press Massachusetts Edition (http://keenefreepress.com/kfp_ma_edition.pdf). The KFP was started by two early-movers to New Hampshire, Russ and Kat. The Massachusetts edition of their paper is fairly applicable to states other than MA, since NH is pretty much surrounded by Socialist "paradises" like Maine, Vermont -- and RI is similar to those places in it politics!

One last thing, you may want to check the forum at NH Free (http://forum.soulawakenings.com), a vibrant community of early-movers and pro-Freedom NH natives.

Welcome, and I hope that after seeing the successes we've had at this early stage, you'll at least come join us for PorcFest! :)
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Dave Mincin on June 14, 2006, 04:00:25 pm
Hello all.  I truly admire what I see and read here.  FSP sounds like a positive thing for sure.  A bit about me:  Just relocated back east from Arizona, another bastion of freedom I must say.  Wife couldn't bear to be from family so now I live in Rhode Island.  Place is a joke.  What it lacks in size it makes up for in corruption.  People here accept it/don't mind it.  I have to get out.  Wife is fed up with job situation here, she has an aunt that lives in NH, she has applied for jobs there, it's close enough to visit her parents, so we shall see.  My main issue is 2nd amendment.  I recently was denied a concealed carry permit by the Attorney General's office here.  After years of gun freedom in AZ you can imagine my frustration.  Even worse, I live in Providence with the gay, rabid anti gun Mayor so I can't approach the town for a permit, which is shall issue by the way.  The locals tell me I don't have a prayer.  Just fed up.  I knew it wouldn't be like AZ but never expected the level of socialist, elitist, connected culture that it is.  Apparently people just vote for Patrick Kennedy (state rep) because they like having their own Kennedy, not making this up, it's like part of the folklore around here.  Anyway, New Hampshire appears to be gun friendly enough for me.  I hope the wife and I can get jobs up there though, we are both educators although I hope to be fulltime coach someday. 

Again, I like what FSP is about.  Live Free or Die is an awesome motto.  Can't say I would look forward to the brutal winters but hey have to take good with the bad I suppose.

I'm mostly just here reading posts but wanted to say hello and hope to join soon.

Remember you are only a hop skip and a jump from our Seacoast Porc meeting. :)  This month our meeting has morfed into a dinner engagement for a couple of folks visiting and house shopping in Porsmouth.  Newick's, 7pm, on Dover Point Road in Dover.  Next month we will be back to our regular meetings at the Gateway, third Saturday at noon, in Sommersworth. :)
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: citizen_142002 on June 14, 2006, 05:26:01 pm
I hope to see you here. The winters aren't that brutal, at least not for the last few years. I think you will find that by moving to NH you can enjoy more freedom and enjoy a higher quality of life than in RI.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: freedomroad on June 14, 2006, 08:21:18 pm
Anyway, New Hampshire appears to be gun friendly enough for me.

You are in luck as NH has more gun freedom than AZ, RI, or any state between them.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: jrafe on June 15, 2006, 12:07:34 am
Thank you for the warm welcome to your forum and the invite to the PorcFest.  Unfortunately I will not be able to attend the event.  My wife and I and the dog will be in Utah visiting family at that time.  Just curious...why a porcupine?
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: FreeBoB on June 15, 2006, 12:19:33 am
Thank you for the warm welcome to your forum and the invite to the PorcFest.  Unfortunately I will not be able to attend the event.  My wife and I and the dog will be in Utah visiting family at that time.  Just curious...why a porcupine?

I believe it may be because porupines are such great runners! http://www.porcupinerun.com/
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 15, 2006, 06:52:00 am
Just curious...why a porcupine?

There's a brief discussion of that about 1/3 of the way through this TV show:
http://freestateproject.org/news/media_archive/0196.php
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: jrafe on June 15, 2006, 10:57:00 am
Ok I get it now.  I watched that TV show and read the FAQ's on the home page.  Interesting choice.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Rebel on June 15, 2006, 01:16:50 pm
Welcome jrafe.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Morey on June 15, 2006, 08:13:36 pm
Welcome, Jrafe.  If you're willing to move and become an activist when you get here, we would be happy to have you.  Just be aware that many (most, I would hope) of us FSP members are as pro-choice on sexuality as we are on gun ownership.  If you can live with that, we'll get along fine.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: jrafe on June 18, 2006, 04:37:37 pm
Hello Morey, Rebel

Morey, I have no problem with who has sex with who, not my business.  My reference to the Mayor of Providence speaks more to the liberal (re: anti-gun) culture of the state.  Liberal enough to elect the ONLY homosexual big city Mayor in the country.  In turn, liberal enough to have oppressive gun policies that would make Stalin proud.  Sorry if it came across as homophobic.  I would gladly support any elected person who upholds the law, whatever their sexual orientation is.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 19, 2006, 06:45:11 am
Now that I've spent a year in New Hampshire learning about the legislative process, I do not want people who just uphold the law -- I want people to RESPECT the CONSTITUTION. There are too many "laws" getting passed (in all 50 states) that would have made Thomas Jefferson reach for his gun... or, more powerfully, his quill pen!

Anyway, welcome to this highly Libertarian -- and therefore prickly -- forum.
There's an old joke about the Free State Project, with a punchline something like "When 20,000 Libertarians come within argusing distance of one another!" ;)

Anyway, critical debates are good. Especially if you'll be spending any time with us in the NH State House, engaging the political processs!
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: jrafe on June 21, 2006, 10:40:20 pm
Have fun everybody.  Hope to read and hear alot from what goes on at Porcfest 2006.  Anybody going to take pictures?  Will there be speeches and if so will they be posted here afterwards?  Again have fun!
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: freedom's ideologue on June 21, 2006, 10:43:28 pm
Hopefully there will be more than pictures.  Roger at politicalgraffiti.com is making a porcfest video.  When its all done, he'll post it on his forum.  (For simplicity's sake, I also post them, with his gracious permission, at my myspace page:  www.myspace.com/calebjohnson   Just click on the "videos" link under my picture and voila, there are his videos.  I'll add the Porcfest video when its ready.)
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: varrin on June 27, 2006, 08:36:47 am
Have fun everybody.  Hope to read and hear alot from what goes on at Porcfest 2006.  Anybody going to take pictures?  Will there be speeches and if so will they be posted here afterwards?  Again have fun!

Lots of people took pictures.  I'd like anyone who did to upload them to the gallery.  I'll make an announcement to that effect in the President's Corner this week.  I'll also be posting my speech and Jason hinted that he might post his, too.  I'm still unpacking and have a *ton* of work to do (gotta get ready for the LP convention next weekend) but those things are on my list for this week :)

V-

Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 27, 2006, 08:44:24 am
Have fun everybody.  Hope to read and hear alot from what goes on at Porcfest 2006.  Anybody going to take pictures?  Will there be speeches and if so will they be posted here afterwards?  Again have fun!

Lots of people took pictures.  I'd like anyone who did to upload them to the gallery.  I'll make an announcement to that effect in the President's Corner this week.  I'll also be posting my speech and Jason hinted that he might post his, too.  I'm still unpacking and have a *ton* of work to do (gotta get ready for the LP convention next weekend) but those things are on my list for this week :)

V-

Yeah, I just need to make a few edits to the text before uploading. Now as for pictures... Public display of evidence? Oh man, what am I in for?? ;)
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Rocketman on June 27, 2006, 11:14:41 am

Yeah, I just need to make a few edits to the text before uploading. Now as for pictures... Public display of evidence? Oh man, what am I in for?? ;)

Well, I might be willing to destroy my "nekkid drunken orgy" negatives for the right price... what's it worth to you, Jason?   :D
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 27, 2006, 11:20:24 am

Yeah, I just need to make a few edits to the text before uploading. Now as for pictures... Public display of evidence? Oh man, what am I in for?? ;)

Well, I might be willing to destroy my "nekkid drunken orgy" negatives for the right price... what's it worth to you, Jason?   :D

Uh, well, let's see... I'll start the negotiations at one bottle of cognac. I'm not touching the stuff from now on, so you might as well have it.   :D
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Rocketman on June 27, 2006, 11:58:23 am
Prefer bourbon, but one bottle of cognac works for me.  (I drive much harder bargains when I'm blackmailing evil statists.) :)

Uh, say... you'll be laying off that methamphetamine too, right?  Really, I worry about you, Jason... if you f*** up and lose your job in Buffalo, you might have to move to New Hampshire immediately and become a full-time freedom fighter! 
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 27, 2006, 12:59:00 pm
Prefer bourbon, but one bottle of cognac works for me.  (I drive much harder bargains when I'm blackmailing evil statists.) :)

That's what I like to hear. ;)

Quote
Uh, say... you'll be laying off that methamphetamine too, right?  Really, I worry about you, Jason... if you f*** up and lose your job in Buffalo, you might have to move to New Hampshire immediately and become a full-time freedom fighter! 

Yeah, uh, maybe we should take this conversation to PM's at this point. LOL
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Denis Goddard on June 27, 2006, 06:29:06 pm
Yeah, uh, maybe we should take this conversation to PM's at this point. LOL
Geez Jason... pity I didn't get to chat with you at PorcFest. I had a cookie for you, if I'd only known...  :P
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 27, 2006, 07:31:52 pm
Yeah, uh, maybe we should take this conversation to PM's at this point. LOL
Geez Jason... pity I didn't get to chat with you at PorcFest. I had a cookie for you, if I'd only known...  :P

Yeah, I was up at the front of the meeting room when you waved at everyone from the back, but I never made it through the horde. Drat!
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Rocketman on June 27, 2006, 07:44:42 pm
Denis is a very talented baker.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Jen on June 30, 2006, 01:17:33 pm
Can't say I would look forward to the brutal winters but hey have to take good with the bad I suppose.
i'm not too happy about the brutal winters either, but i lived in extreme northern new york state for three winters, so i know sort of what to expect.  i hope to be in nh in the next two years or so. 
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Dreepa on June 30, 2006, 01:20:05 pm
Can't say I would look forward to the brutal winters but hey have to take good with the bad I suppose.
i'm not too happy about the brutal winters either, but i lived in extreme northern new york state for three winters, so i know sort of what to expect.  i hope to be in nh in the next two years or so. 
jen welcome to the forums.

If you plan on moving with 2 years.... Have you thought about the First1000?
www.pledgebank.com/first1000
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Jen on June 30, 2006, 01:21:48 pm
Can't say I would look forward to the brutal winters but hey have to take good with the bad I suppose.
i'm not too happy about the brutal winters either, but i lived in extreme northern new york state for three winters, so i know sort of what to expect.  i hope to be in nh in the next two years or so. 
jen welcome to the forums.

If you plan on moving with 2 years.... Have you thought about the First1000?
www.pledgebank.com/first1000
Follow (who also joined today) and i have been thinking about it, but it needs a bit more discussion and planning before we make a concrete decision.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Dreepa on June 30, 2006, 02:25:33 pm
Can't say I would look forward to the brutal winters but hey have to take good with the bad I suppose.
i'm not too happy about the brutal winters either, but i lived in extreme northern new york state for three winters, so i know sort of what to expect.  i hope to be in nh in the next two years or so. 
jen welcome to the forums.

If you plan on moving with 2 years.... Have you thought about the First1000?
www.pledgebank.com/first1000
Follow (who also joined today) and i have been thinking about it, but it needs a bit more discussion and planning before we make a concrete decision.

Cool.

If you have any question feel free to ask them.
Also come on over to NHFREE.com if you have question for lots of locals.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Follow on June 30, 2006, 03:12:24 pm
Locals are definitely useful, we will check it out, thanks.  :)




Follow  :)
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: jrafe on August 02, 2006, 12:11:17 pm
UPDATE

Well, we're a little closer to making it out of PRRI.  My wife had an interview in Pittsfield last week, we're waiting to hear back.  We visited her Aunt in Rochester afterwards, ate some lunch at this place called the 103 I believe it was.  Great place. 

Sure felt good to be in NH.  Felt like home.

Anyway, we're keeping our fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: ravelkinbow on August 04, 2006, 05:56:54 am
The winters are not that bad and when you think of it....is a little cold worth your freedom?!

We are now a little over a year in the Freestate and it was the best decision we ever made, that is the truth!

Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully
Post by: Forastero on November 07, 2006, 02:38:29 pm
Hello Morey, Rebel

Morey, I have no problem with who has sex with who, not my business.  My reference to the Mayor of Providence speaks more to the liberal (re: anti-gun) culture of the state.  Liberal enough to elect the ONLY homosexual big city Mayor in the country.  In turn, liberal enough to have oppressive gun policies that would make Stalin proud.  Sorry if it came across as homophobic.  I would gladly support any elected person who upholds the law, whatever their sexual orientation is.

Your ok in my book, live and let live as I always say, welcome to the FSP!
Title: Re: Want to join soon hopefully**insane thread resurrection**
Post by: jrafe on February 24, 2013, 01:10:33 am
UPDATE

Well, we're a little closer to making it out of PRRI.  My wife had an interview in Pittsfield last week, we're waiting to hear back.  We visited her Aunt in Rochester afterwards, ate some lunch at this place called the 103 I believe it was.  Great place. 

Sure felt good to be in NH.  Felt like home.

Anyway, we're keeping our fingers crossed.

Well here I am again, 7 years later.  I stopped posting here because I made it out of Rhode Island when we moved back to Arizona.  I've loved the freedom but wouldn't you know it, we went and had ourselves a set of twins, and now the wife can't bear for them not to grow up near her family.  So it looks like once again we are headed back to New England.  This time I am armed with experience however, and told her RI is pretty much a no go.  If we have to move back I am pushing hard for NH.  VT and ME would be ok, but CT/MA are absolutely prohibited and RI will come with major concessions that she probably won't want to live with. 

Been a long time.  What's the mood like?  Still doing the whole FSP thing?  I saw where NH has all female reps in Congress now and went heavy for Obama, and I seriously hope it isn't long term trending progressive.  Just interested to hear what's going on in NH.  Still pretty free?  I read about the local town rep in Keene that was very anti FSP and trying to keep them out of town or something.  I really like Portsmouth.  Wouldn't mind living near there.  Talk to me people, I'm back :)  Seriously if we move back and 5 years from now NH is just like CT/MA I will be super pissed.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: JasonPSorens on February 24, 2013, 10:09:25 am
NH moved a notch more Republican between 2004 and 2012, but it's still pretty much a right-up-the-middle centrist state on the left-right spectrum. But it's still just as free as ever and the only state with substantial economic and personal freedoms.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 24, 2013, 04:38:42 pm
Think of NH as a place with fewer border patrol checkpoints than AZ.:-)
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on February 24, 2013, 04:49:17 pm
Think of NH as a place with fewer border patrol checkpoints than AZ.:-)

But more hoops to jump through to carry a gun.  AZ went constitutional carry a few years ago.  NH has the massholes to deal with but AZ has the Cali transplants so that's a wash.  AZ...no winters to speak of, NH snows what, 10 months out of the year?.  Sales tax is rough here though, it's almost 10%.  It's definitely a step down in my opinion, moving to NH, but best option in New England I guess. 

Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 24, 2013, 06:28:20 pm
You are from RI right?
10 months of snow? Not even in Alaska:-)
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: MaineShark on February 24, 2013, 08:26:49 pm
But more hoops to jump through to carry a gun.  AZ went constitutional carry a few years ago.

NH almost went that route, but the NRA worked hard to get all sorts of gun control nonsense added, so it was killed by anti-gun and pro-gun folks, alike - the amended bill would have been a major step backwards for NH.  The original bill is back again, this year.

In any case, $10 for four years, name, address, and three references (who will almost certainly not get called).  No fingerprints.  No photo.  No training requirement.  It's harder to sign up for a prepaid cell phone.  They have 14 calendar days to approve or deny.

I notice that Arizona has a minimum age on carry (21), which NH lacks (there are, by my own knowledge, 12 year olds who have carry licenses, and I'm sure there have been ones issued to younger individuals than that).

Arizona also has a list of places you cannot carry.  Polling places, for example (you can't exercise your rights while exercising your right to vote?), certain bars, etc.  In NH, the list is: courtrooms.

And, if you want reciprocity with any other state, getting an Arizona license has all sorts of ridiculous requirements (training course, fingerprints like you're some sort of criminal, etc.), can take a couple months.  And then you're in a database of gun owners; NH license information is stored with the local police department where you reside, and any statewide database would be illegal (I'm sure one exists, but cops can't get access to it when they pull you over on the side of the road, since they can't exactly connect an illegal database to the cruiser compuers - someone would talk).

Machineguns are illegal in Arizona, unless registered with the Feds.  NH stands moot on the subject, so you're not in violation of any NH law if you choose to ignore the Feds on that.  We also have the highest rate of machinegun ownership of any state, by a wide margin (7.48 per 1000 residents, versus 2.58 per 1000 in Arizona).

While Arizona technically has open carry, there's also a law that can make carry into a "disturbing the peace" violation.  In NH, the Attorney General has issued an opinion (which, if you rely on it, is an automatic defense to prosecution) that no reasonable person ever fears the presence of a firearm, so the presence of a firearm cannot constitute disturbing the peace.

NH also has interesting laws like a ban on destruction of firearms by the state.  So, no "gun buy-back" nonsense being run by police departments.  Seized firearms must be sold at public auction - even ones that are seized due to use in a crime.  Additionally, police departments are prohibited from requiring you to undergo a background check in order to get your gun(s) back if they seize them, unless they can demonstrate actual cause to believe that you have acquired a felony conviction or such in the interim (and the caselaw which established that involved someone who was actually convicted of a gun crime - the cops were still required to return the pistol without a background check, so when they say, "cause," they mean it).

Yes, NH has a license requirement (for now), but it's trivially-easy to get, and the other issues far outweigh it.

AZ...no winters to speak of, NH snows what, 10 months out of the year?.

Serious snow?  Not more than a month or two.  And we never have ridiculous heat.  There's no such thing as bad weather - just improper clothing choice.  Unless it gets too hot, in which case there's a finite limit on the amount of clothing you can remove.  If you're still too hot, then, you're screwed.  If you have decent gear, even 20 below zero isn't bad.

Sales tax is rough here though, it's almost 10%.

That's horrific.  Even Mass, Maine, and Vermont, known for high taxes, aren't up there.  NH, of course, has an excellent general sales tax rate (0%).
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on February 24, 2013, 09:29:50 pm


Thanks for the info MS.  What do you think about Portsmouth?  I really like that city.  I'm sure we are looking to be as far south NH as possible, for the shortest trip possible to the grandparents.  We stayed a night in Salem, NH last summer, seemed like a nice town. 
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: TheMagicBullet on February 24, 2013, 09:32:25 pm
Portsmouth is pretty cool. Definitely a lot to do, although it's also an expensive town. Depending on your interests and your jobs, if you want to be as south as possible, Nashua could be a good choice too and isn't really expensive. Give us more info so we can help you better!
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on February 24, 2013, 09:48:12 pm
Portsmouth is pretty cool. Definitely a lot to do, although it's also an expensive town. Depending on your interests and your jobs, if you want to be as south as possible, Nashua could be a good choice too and isn't really expensive. Give us more info so we can help you better!

Well my wife and I are both school teachers, although I am seriously considering leaving the profession, definitely at a crossroads in my professional life.  Access to an airport decreases as a factor the further south we end up, since it's only about an hour to Providence from the bottom of NH.  I like to shoot, so I would like to be somewhat near a local club or range.  I'll miss pulling off the side of the road and shooting in the desert :-\  I like to play poker, so the closer to Foxwoods the better, unless there is a casino closer?  I like to workout so I'd need to have a quality gym to workout at.  Wife is more of city girl, born and raised Providence, she likes to shop, eat at nice restaurants, stuff for the kids etc.  Coast isn't that big a deal, I'm sure if we ever went to the beach it would be down in RI anyway. 
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: JonM on February 25, 2013, 10:16:08 am
Portsmouth is pretty cool. Definitely a lot to do, although it's also an expensive town. Depending on your interests and your jobs, if you want to be as south as possible, Nashua could be a good choice too and isn't really expensive. Give us more info so we can help you better!

Well my wife and I are both school teachers, although I am seriously considering leaving the profession, definitely at a crossroads in my professional life.  Access to an airport decreases as a factor the further south we end up, since it's only about an hour to Providence from the bottom of NH.  I like to shoot, so I would like to be somewhat near a local club or range.  I'll miss pulling off the side of the road and shooting in the desert :-\  I like to play poker, so the closer to Foxwoods the better, unless there is a casino closer?  I like to workout so I'd need to have a quality gym to workout at.  Wife is more of city girl, born and raised Providence, she likes to shop, eat at nice restaurants, stuff for the kids etc.  Coast isn't that big a deal, I'm sure if we ever went to the beach it would be down in RI anyway. 
Salem would likely be your best choice.  Low property taxes, easy access to head south, a current charity funding poker room that has tons of no-limit tournaments and limit cash games (low stakes as compared to Foxwoods), and is also a very likely location for a casino if a bill to legalize full casinos ever becomes law.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: freedomroad on February 25, 2013, 03:04:10 pm
I like to play poker, so the closer to Foxwoods the better, unless there is a casino closer? 

People play poker (blackjack, roulette) in Keene, Milford, Salem, Seabrook and other towns and cities in NH for money to help charity. It is low stakes but a bill to increase the stakes is expected to pass the NH House any day now. I think ME might have some casinos now. MA legalized big casinos last year and is now working out the details. A few are likely within a few years. The NH Senate and governor are working hard to get a big casino in NH but I doubt it will pass this year.

As for guns, yeah, I'd say both NH and VT are less regulated than AZ.

As for taxes, you should save a lot of money.

Portsmouth is kinda expensive.

The population of New England is growing much slower than the Southeast or Southwest so teaching jobs are a little harder to come by.

If you don't like Winter storms, CT/RI/the Cape have perhaps had a worse Winter, weather wise, than NH this year.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: crossonscout on February 25, 2013, 03:25:31 pm
I like to play poker, so the closer to Foxwoods the better, unless there is a casino closer? 

People play poker (blackjack, roulette) in Keene, Milford, Salem, Seabrook and other towns and cities in NH for money to help charity. It is low stakes but a bill to increase the stakes is expected to pass the NH House any day now. I think ME might have some casinos now. MA legalized big casinos last year and is now working out the details. A few are likely within a few years. The NH Senate and governor are working hard to get a big casino in NH but I doubt it will pass this year.

As for guns, yeah, I'd say both NH and VT are less regulated than AZ.

As for taxes, you should save a lot of money.

Portsmouth is kinda expensive.

The population of New England is growing much slower than the Southeast or Southwest so teaching jobs are a little harder to come by.

If you don't like Winter storms, CT/RI/the Cape have perhaps had a worse Winter, weather wise, than NH this year.

I live in CT currently and can vouch for this... NH got about 20 inches in the "Blizzard of 13" but CT got 36 - 40.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on February 25, 2013, 05:50:23 pm
I like to play poker, so the closer to Foxwoods the better, unless there is a casino closer? 

People play poker (blackjack, roulette)

Wow I had no idea there were poker rooms in NH.  That's a big bonus.  I know it's tough to get teaching jobs in pretty much all of New England but like I said I'm looking to get out anyway, I figure I can just sub until I figure out what to do next.  My wife actually turned down a job in Lawrence, MA  last summer and she has some ties to northern MA so I think she'll be able to get a teaching job.  So far I'm liking Salem, Hudson, Nashua, Portsmouth and we have some family in Dover so I'll check that out as well.  Looking at house prices is a little concerning, not cheap avg price I am seeing is $250k for comparable to what we have now which we paid 175k here plus the property tax there good lord, ours are barely 1,000/yr here, not sure we can afford NH even on two teachers salary?
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: MaineShark on February 25, 2013, 07:48:52 pm
...not sure we can afford NH even on two teachers salary?

NH is the lowest-tax state in the US (other than Alaska, but that's because the oil companies are required to subsidize everyone who lives there).

Property taxes vary dramatically from town to town in NH.  If you want a lot of government-run services, you pay for that.  If you don't, choose a town with few services, and low taxes.

There are a variety of towns in and around those areas, with varying taxes.  Portsmouth, for example, has very high taxes.  Neighboring Greenland has substantially lower taxes than Portsmouth.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on February 25, 2013, 10:25:19 pm
.  Portsmouth, for example, has very high taxes.  Neighboring Greenland has substantially lower taxes than Portsmouth.

Ahh I see, live in Greenland, drive to Portsmouth.  I bet Portsmouth has great public schools though.  That'll be very important to us in about 3 years.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: JonM on February 26, 2013, 08:29:38 am
.  Portsmouth, for example, has very high taxes.  Neighboring Greenland has substantially lower taxes than Portsmouth.

Ahh I see, live in Greenland, drive to Portsmouth.  I bet Portsmouth has great public schools though.  That'll be very important to us in about 3 years.
If you go that route, keep in mind the majority of property taxes in a town tend to be to fund the schools.  You may or may not agree with the metrics many sites use to measure schools, so if this is important to you, you should start doing research.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 27, 2013, 10:02:56 am
Public schools suck.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on February 27, 2013, 12:42:52 pm
Public schools suck.

Absolutely agree hence why I'm considering a career change.  But public schools in wealthier towns and cities have less of societies' dregs.  I want my own children to attend private or parochial schools.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: JasonPSorens on February 27, 2013, 12:50:17 pm
Public schools suck.

Absolutely agree hence why I'm considering a career change.  But public schools in wealthier towns and cities have less of societies' dregs.  I want my own children to attend private or parochial schools.

Since the majority of school funding comes from the town in NH, you may want to reconsider where you live. If you send your kids to private school, you probably want to live in a low-property-tax, low-school-spending location. There really aren't many places in NH where you'll need to worry about the lumpenproletariat in your neighborhood.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: freedomroad on February 27, 2013, 02:07:51 pm
So far I'm liking Salem, Hudson, Nashua, Portsmouth and we have some family in Dover so I'll check that out as well.  Looking at house prices is a little concerning, not cheap avg price I am seeing is $250k for comparable to what we have now which we paid 175k here plus the property tax there good lord, ours are barely 1,000/yr here, not sure we can afford NH even on two teachers salary?

You can easily afford to live in NH on 1 teacher's salary if you only have 1 child. With 2 teacher's salaries, maybe you could afford to have 4-5 kids.

For example, in Nashua or Manchester you can get a 2 bedroom apartment with utilities paid for $1,000 a month. An apartment that size holds 2 parents and 2 children.

You can likely get a duplex in Manchester for around $250,000 and rent out the other half.

If you are looking at Portsmouth, why not look at Seabrook so your wife can work in MA if needed? Condos go for $95k and the property tax bills are 1/2 of what they are in Portsmouth. Not to mention that you are right on 2 interstates.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on February 27, 2013, 09:57:50 pm
So far I'm liking Salem, Hudson, Nashua, Portsmouth and we have some family in Dover so I'll check that out as well.  Looking at house prices is a little concerning, not cheap avg price I am seeing is $250k for comparable to what we have now which we paid 175k here plus the property tax there good lord, ours are barely 1,000/yr here, not sure we can afford NH even on two teachers salary?

You can easily afford to live in NH on 1 teacher's salary if you only have 1 child. With 2 teacher's salaries, maybe you could afford to have 4-5 kids.

For example, in Nashua or Manchester you can get a 2 bedroom apartment with utilities paid for $1,000 a month. An apartment that size holds 2 parents and 2 children.

You can likely get a duplex in Manchester for around $250,000 and rent out the other half.

If you are looking at Portsmouth, why not look at Seabrook so your wife can work in MA if needed? Condos go for $95k and the property tax bills are 1/2 of what they are in Portsmouth. Not to mention that you are right on 2 interstates.

Not really looking at Portsmouth I just remember liking it when we went there a couple times.  I am really liking Salem now.  Is there any kind of FSP presence near nashua/salem/hudson?
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: freedomroad on February 27, 2013, 11:23:25 pm
Sure, there are weekly meetings (more than 1 meeting) by liberty groups both Nashua and Manchester (it's the same area). There is also a monthly meeting in Manchester and the yearly Liberty Forum in Nashua.

Here are some inexpensive places in NH. http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=26528.0
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: crossonscout on March 07, 2013, 01:55:36 am
Public schools suck.

This. My wife and I plan on homeschooling in NH.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on March 10, 2013, 03:42:00 pm
Public schools suck.

This. My wife and I plan on homeschooling in NH.

Hey no argument here.  I am a public school teacher and I tell anyone who will listen to get their children out of public schools.  Wife has applied to Salem and Hopkinton so far.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: Ambitious Ant on March 10, 2013, 03:57:33 pm
Hey no argument here.  I am a public school teacher and I tell anyone who will listen to get their children out of public schools.  Wife has applied to Salem and Hopkinton so far.
With my experience in the public school system (the South even), I advise parents to keep their children away from public schools. Don't even tell them what a public school is. And God forbid your child ends up in a public alternative/reform school.

Don't do it.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on March 10, 2013, 04:04:06 pm
Hey no argument here.  I am a public school teacher and I tell anyone who will listen to get their children out of public schools.  Wife has applied to Salem and Hopkinton so far.
With my experience in the public school system (the South even), I advise parents to keep their children away from public schools. Don't even tell them what a public school is. And God forbid your child ends up in a public alternative/reform school.

Don't do it.

I am hoping to find good parochial schools.  If my wife's wealthy family wants to help out, maybe even private schools.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: Ambitious Ant on March 10, 2013, 04:07:32 pm
I am hoping to find good parochial schools. If my wife's wealthy family wants to help out, maybe even private schools.
The bold part. That right there.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on March 16, 2013, 08:53:08 pm
Wife has a lead in Hopkinton, any info on it?
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: JasonPSorens on March 16, 2013, 09:30:20 pm
Wife has a lead in Hopkinton, any info on it?

We have folks there. Overall, however, it is a relatively left-of-center and high-tax town, so you may want to commute from another town.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on March 16, 2013, 09:59:06 pm
Wife has a lead in Hopkinton, any info on it?

We have folks there. Overall, however, it is a relatively left-of-center and high-tax town, so you may want to commute from another town.

Good to know, thanks.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: Ward Griffiths on March 18, 2013, 05:32:19 pm
Hey no argument here.  I am a public school teacher and I tell anyone who will listen to get their children out of public schools.  Wife has applied to Salem and Hopkinton so far.
With my experience in the public school system (the South even), I advise parents to keep their children away from public schools. Don't even tell them what a public school is. And God forbid your child ends up in a public alternative/reform school.

Don't do it.

I am hoping to find good parochial schools.  If my wife's wealthy family wants to help out, maybe even private schools.

I'm not familiar with any public (as in tax supported) parochial schools in the US, though there's that "under God" phrase in the socialist Pledge of Allegiance they inflict on most attendees of nominally secular public schools.  Not that I'm crazy about taxes supporting schools anywhere along the religious/secular spectrum.  If you want your kids to learn, teach them (or let them teach themselves, worked for me) -- if you want somebody else to teach them, don't steal my money to pay for it.
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on May 01, 2013, 05:03:25 pm
Wife has an interview in Salem next week.  Fingers crossed!!!
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on May 14, 2013, 11:40:47 pm
Anyone know anything about Troy, NH?
Title: Re: Insane thread resurrection
Post by: jrafe on May 24, 2013, 05:07:21 pm
On our way, see you all in July