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The new Wood's Book (A Politically Incorrect Guide to American History)
« on: December 23, 2004, 03:45:31 am »

Anyone read Thomas Wood's new book, A Politically Incorrect Guide to American History?  Was it good?

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2004, 05:24:30 am »

From the looks of it, the author is yet another right-wing, pro-South, Christian theocrat bent on casting anyone who unlike him as "an enemy of America and all it stands for". Among the things he claims is that southern racism was caused by "negro vagrancy" and that the Puritans' treatment of the American Indians was "right and justified".

Any valid points the man makes will be overshadowed by all the garbage. Sad but true. If you want the good stuff without all the moral garbage just read some Harry Browne. He was among the first who led me to truly despise socialism and all its fruit, as well as the State in itself.

EDIT: I'm finding the man does make excellent points on matters of foreign policy. So at least he's better than the neo-cons, I'll give him that..
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2004, 10:02:40 am »

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without looking at the book, I do know that Thomas Woods is a frequent contributor to lewrockwell.com

He's also anti-war, anti-imperialism, and anti-state.

I don't know whether he's a holy roller or not, but if that's the only thing I disagree with him on, I'd consider him an ally.

BTW - I do enjoy reading just about anything Harry Browne has to write.  I think his investment advice gets a little repetitive after a while, but that's because it's so simple.  He has to find ways to keep selling books with the same advice.  He's brilliant when he writes about history, though.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2004, 06:19:53 pm »

Thomas Wood, is a Catholic. His other recent book, "The Church Confronts Modernity." is essentially a thesis about MArkets, and that the Catholic Church should support Free Market economics, and that the late schoolastics were proto-Austrian, etc.

In Politically incorect, he argues that the Native Americans' DID have concepts of Proporty rights. They weren't socialist utopias like we're now taught in Public Schools.

I don't remember any "Puritan's treated indian's justly." in the book. Certainly he complains about Sherman's war on Indians and stuff.

I'd think it's a good book to read.  
2nd, it's actually in the top 10 list for several conservative book clubs. That's a good thing, because his book is a direct threat to the Neo-Con establishment.  Perhaps after reading this book, concervatives will wake up and realize they've been conned by the Republican party.

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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2004, 12:01:59 am »

This man seems like a mix of Libertarianism and Paleo-Conservatism. Most here will probably know most of the information in his book, although there is some interesting stuff in there too that would be new.

Tracy makes a very important point. This book is getting in the hands of Mainstream Right and will draw them away from Neo-Connism. That is a great service this book will perform.

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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2004, 12:04:45 am »

This book is great because it has a very Dittohead title, but the main message of it is paleo-libertarianism/Austrain economics!  Its a helluva mole for LRC.  Wink Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2004, 02:48:50 pm »

From the looks of it, the author is yet another right-wing, pro-South, Christian theocrat bent on casting anyone who unlike him as "an enemy of America and all it stands for". Among the things he claims is that southern racism was caused by "negro vagrancy" and that the Puritans' treatment of the American Indians was "right and justified".

Any valid points the man makes will be overshadowed by all the garbage. Sad but true. If you want the good stuff without all the moral garbage just read some Harry Browne. He was among the first who led me to truly despise socialism and all its fruit, as well as the State in itself.

EDIT: I'm finding the man does make excellent points on matters of foreign policy. So at least he's better than the neo-cons, I'll give him that..
                                                                                           
Just by going by one of the reviews " Indian Land was purchased". Well some was and some wasn't, some was by force, some by deception or false representation( hey if your brother sales your 200,000 dollar home to  me  for 20,000  can I keep it?) and some was through honest purchase.                                    
    Some of the land was probally never claimed by an indian until white men moved on to it, other land was just used once a year for a certain purpose, as long as the land still could be enjoyed for that purpose then  if someone build a homestead on it, maybe it doesn't matter.                                                      
  Also some whites and blacks( run away slaves mostly) people lived on Indian land by permission of Indians then the state or  federal government took it too either through force, forced sale or false represenation sale
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2004, 08:55:47 pm »

I'm the author of the new Woods book, in fact.  I'd suggest that people read the book before assuming what's in it.  I don't think I'm a "theocrat" for saying that the federal government has no business bossing around states and localities.  That was Thomas Jefferson's view, and he was no theocrat.

On the Puritans, it's not at all clear to me why defending them makes me suspect as a libertarian.  I do not claim that all Indians were always treated justly; that would be absurd.  I make the much more limited claim that the Puritans' record, on balance, was not bad.  I refer readers to Alden T. Vaughan's book New England Frontier: Puritans and Indians, 1620-1675, which has been in print for nearly 40 years and has gone through three editions.

As for casting out people I disagree with as "an enemy of America and all it stands for," anyone who has read a single article of mine knows I do not speak or think that way.

Thanks to those who have spoken on behalf of the book.  And I agree completely with what has been said here: the book is being pitched to precisely those who need it most, namely the neocon-influenced right-wing-radio-listening masses.  Perhaps it might help draw them back to antistatism.  We can hope.

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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2004, 10:11:05 pm »

I'm the author of the new Woods book, in fact.  I'd suggest that people read the book before assuming what's in it.  I don't think I'm a "theocrat" for saying that the federal government has no business bossing around states and localities.  That was Thomas Jefferson's view, and he was no theocrat.

On the Puritans, it's not at all clear to me why defending them makes me suspect as a libertarian.  I do not claim that all Indians were always treated justly; that would be absurd.  I make the much more limited claim that the Puritans' record, on balance, was not bad.  I refer readers to Alden T. Vaughan's book New England Frontier: Puritans and Indians, 1620-1675, which has been in print for nearly 40 years and has gone through three editions.

As for casting out people I disagree with as "an enemy of America and all it stands for," anyone who has read a single article of mine knows I do not speak or think that way.

Thanks to those who have spoken on behalf of the book.  And I agree completely with what has been said here: the book is being pitched to precisely those who need it most, namely the neocon-influenced right-wing-radio-listening masses.  Perhaps it might help draw them back to antistatism.  We can hope.

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   Sorry if I  got the wrong idea, but I did say if the reviews were right, the reviews on Amazon.                                                  
  Chris Tame posted a better review on the libertarian alliance board, I think it was from the Mises blog.
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