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« on: October 16, 2004, 04:33:26 pm »

Hi

Wanted to start a discussion thread where people can offer questions or suggestions about college campus recruiting, libertarian ideas on campus, or for anyone who wants a place to field questions, comments or wants to discuss topics relating to the FSP and colleges or universities.

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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2004, 10:38:50 am »

This is great.  Colleges are one of the areas we really haven't pushed yet, and I think we could do a lot of good work there.  As a local group leader, I'm interested in pursuing college opportunities in the Mid-Atlantic area, but I'd love to find one person here who can head it up as a project.  What kind of outreach have we had across the board?  Has HQ gotten in touch with campus libertarian groups?  (Just asking to make sure we don't duplicate efforts.)  Is there an overall strategy that local groups can fit into to help?  Or is the strategy up to us and individuals with HQ and the liaison as resources?

Thanks.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2004, 07:26:14 pm »

Hi kater,

cpmarch and I have been engaged in a 50 day plan to contact the first 500 people on a list  of over 1000 potential college students.
For details, check my posting on the FSP Publicity and Recruiting: Results
forum http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=25;action=display;threadid=8444
(this project started in the FSP Publicity and Recruiting: Ideas and Opportunities thread)

The major contact sources I am using are:
http://chelm.freeyellow.com/collegelibsusa.html .
http://www.fed-soc.org/studentdivision.htm
http://www.lp.org/organization/campus.html

I am using MS Access as a database to contact folks. If you want to help email me and I'll fill you in on the details (I am only through Texas on one list so there is much left to do)!

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This is great.  Colleges are one of the areas we really haven't pushed yet, and I think we could do a lot of good work there.  As a local group leader, I'm interested in pursuing college opportunities in the Mid-Atlantic area, but I'd love to find one person here who can head it up as a project.  What kind of outreach have we had across the board?  Has HQ gotten in touch with campus libertarian groups?  (Just asking to make sure we don't duplicate efforts.)  Is there an overall strategy that local groups can fit into to help?  Or is the strategy up to us and individuals with HQ and the liaison as resources?
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2005, 05:36:40 am »

Any chances to work with these people?
http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org

Maybe a bit too conservative, but we could advertise on FrontPage.com:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16550
http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/contact/advertise.asp
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2005, 11:14:09 pm »

The best issue to bring up to college students is the drinking age, hands down.

This issue effects the lives of 90% of college students age 18-21, support for reform crosses party lines, and it's a logical slam dunk considering the vast ethical disparity of having a conscription age of 18.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2005, 09:29:15 am »

In the '70's when they were, actually,  drafting people, the discrepancy between Draft and Drinking age,  and, the complaints about it brought the drinking age down to 18, where it had already been in some states.
I'm not sure why it was changed to 21, or, if it is Federal law.  It is probably one of those deals where the Feds won't return some of our tax money for a program if our state doesn't comply with their arbitrary law.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2005, 12:56:11 pm »

I'm not sure why it was changed to 21, or, if it is Federal law.  It is probably one of those deals where the Feds won't return some of our tax money for a program if our state doesn't comply with their arbitrary law.

This is exactly the way I remember it coming down from FedGov in the 1980s.  I think Montana was the last state to hold out with an 18 year-old drinking age.  Where I lived, they stair-stepped the drinking age up every year, and I was caught in the process, so that one year I was old enough to buy alcohol, then I was not.  The next year I was old enough for a while, then I was not.....
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2005, 01:01:44 pm »

One of my favorite tactics from college political club days is to photocopy good articles and get to a big lecture hall very early or during the lunch break, and just put a copy in front of every seat.  This is good when you have identified halls where a political science and economics class will take place.  Lower division classes or classes for non-economics majors and non-polysci majors are most effective, IMO.  There have been several Mises Daily Articles that have made me wish I was back at the Uni doing this.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2005, 01:04:55 pm »

In the '70's when they were, actually,  drafting people, the discrepancy between Draft and Drinking age,  and, the complaints about it brought the drinking age down to 18, where it had already been in some states.
I'm not sure why it was changed to 21, or, if it is Federal law.  It is probably one of those deals where the Feds won't return some of our tax money for a program if our state doesn't comply with their arbitrary law.
I think this is the case, and I think the funds in question are federal highway dollars. 
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2005, 08:32:44 pm »

..., if it is Federal law.  It is probably one of those deals where the Feds won't return some of our tax money for a program if our state doesn't comply with their arbitrary law.
I think this is the case, and I think the funds in question are federal highway dollars. 

Im not sure if it is federal law. I am from Illinois originally and when I was in grade school (in the 80's) Wisconsin had a 18 year old drinking law while  Illinois had a 21 year old law. That changed sometime around then too.
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2005, 09:45:49 am »

Mark,

How's your outreach project going?  I spoke (to a tiny group, admittedly) at a local college a month or two ago and had some success.  Would love to help.

Kate
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2005, 01:09:58 am »

One of my favorite tactics from college political club days is to photocopy good articles and get to a big lecture hall very early or during the lunch break, and just put a copy in front of every seat.  This is good when you have identified halls where a political science and economics class will take place.  Lower division classes or classes for non-economics majors and non-polysci majors are most effective, IMO.  There have been several Mises Daily Articles that have made me wish I was back at the Uni doing this.

This is a really good idea for people to do at the colleges in NH.  That way, the college kids of Nh might become slightly more libertarian on the issues mentioned in the articles.  But, how do you use this in colleges in other parts of the country.  I want to know how to recruit FSP members with this method.  Thanks.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2005, 01:57:42 pm »

Not to be annoying, but I've asked a few times (on the forum and by email) and haven't heard anything about the college outreach project.  Can we get a status report and, most importantly, a wish list for help? 
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2005, 11:17:36 am »

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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2005, 04:35:08 pm »

Have we had any contact with the Boston University Libertarian Society?  I just saw that Prof. Randy Barnett will be speaking to them in April, and I wonder if we've made any overtures.
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