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TrueLiberal
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Livermore
« on: September 16, 2004, 12:53:32 pm » |
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According to this link http://www.state.nh.us/osp/ZBAHandbook/StateMap.htmlLivermore in Grafton County is the only "unincorporated area without county zoning authority" It is very difficult to find any information on this area. Does anyone know anything about it? |
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"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
-Thomas Jefferson
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Mike Lorrey
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Re:Livermore
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2004, 02:49:18 pm » |
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It is entirely federal property. Its in the white mountain national forest.
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lloydbob1
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Re:Livermore
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2004, 04:43:18 pm » |
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We Need To Liberate IT!
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Mike Lorrey
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Re:Livermore
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2004, 07:44:47 pm » |
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Well, yes, but the only reason it isn't under county zoning authority is because its entirely federally owned. Once we liberated it, the county authority would step right into the vacuum....
What you need is a town with the scrotal fortitude to pass an ordinance saying:
a) people can build anything they damn well please on their own property so long as nobody else gets harmed.
b) views and silence are not forms of property
c) amending, altering, or repealing this ordinance shall require a vote of 75% of the adult population to do so.
You can call this "MIKE'S PRETTY DAMN FINE ZONING ORDINANCE"
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SteveA
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Re:Livermore
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2004, 08:26:31 pm » |
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Well, yes, but the only reason it isn't under county zoning authority is because its entirely federally owned. Once we liberated it, the county authority would step right into the vacuum....
What you need is a town with the scrotal fortitude to pass an ordinance saying:
a) people can build anything they damn well please on their own property so long as nobody else gets harmed.
b) views and silence are not forms of property
c) amending, altering, or repealing this ordinance shall require a vote of 75% of the adult population to do so.
You can call this "MIKE'S PRETTY DAMN FINE ZONING ORDINANCE"
I'd love to see something like this happen, and it wouldn't even hurt to leave the 2 'damn's and a reference to 'scrotal fortitude' in place.  |
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Eddie Willers
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Re:Livermore
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2004, 03:42:11 pm » |
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b) views and silence are not forms of property
I'll have to quibble with you on this. Noise pollution is indeed a form of pollution, and therefore a form of aggression. It certainly can fall under the aegis of harming somebody. If you're living in your house, and a new neighbor comes in, and opens a racetrack with midnight races at 110db or better, you're coming to harm. Further, if your new neighbor builds a 150 story building and blocks all the sunlight to your house, you've been harmed. Perhaps we're agreeing about the harm issue. Maybe we don't need the "viewshed" argument to be stated at all. The noise argument would fall under standard pollution or "harm to others". Eddie |
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Mike Lorrey
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Re:Livermore
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2004, 04:00:20 pm » |
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b) views and silence are not forms of property
I'll have to quibble with you on this. Noise pollution is indeed a form of pollution, and therefore a form of aggression. It certainly can fall under the aegis of harming somebody. What you are describing is disturbance of the peace, nuisance, or other offenses to the peace and repose of individuals. You have no absolute right to complete silence in your backyard (the weather, the birds, and animals would beg to differ with you) at all times, you have no right to live free of the sound of gunfire emanating from your neighbors property. Only if noise can be quantitatively proven to be impacting your health can you claim true monetary damages. Do you have a right to sunlight? The clouds would beg to differ, as would the moon. |
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