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SteveA
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IF a society imposes speed limits to lower accident rates (I'm not saying that speed limits actually do lower accident rate), and
IF that society imposes fines to force compliance with their speeding laws (I'm not making any moral claim about the acceptability of their approach), and
IF that society believes that fines are designed to deter people from commission of the crime, and
IF that society believes that all people should be equally compelled to follow the law,
THEN a fine based on income would best serve the needs of this society. This does make sense from the point of view of law enforcement. Being in jail costs more for people who earn more but provides a similar deterrent against crime. This should only apply for punative actions, not for civil damages. The weakness here is that people with more money get targetted because there is more incentive to prosecute them under this scenario. |
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"Fruitless, born a thousand times, lies barren. Unguided inspiration, yields random motion, circumscribed in destination, going nowhere. Guidance uninspired, always true in facing, stands immobile. But fixed upon that destination firmly and with inspiration lofted; beget your dreams."
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RidleyReport
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My favored shadow ad candidate is still the gay marriage thing simply because it is getting the most attention.
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rdeacon
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The weakness here is that people with more money get targetted because there is more incentive to prosecute them under this scenario.
Agreed, but its the same weakness found in the current systerm. As it stands we have a system with rampant corruption in the name of meeting quotas - which is really just a matter of bringing in enough revenue to cover the budget. It's just horrible. |
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Mike Lorrey
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You are just promoting the same looterism that makes 51% of the population vote to make the other 49% pay all the taxes, which is exactly how the system works here in the US now. This is NOT what liberty is about.
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rdeacon
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You are just promoting the same looterism that makes 51% of the population vote to make the other 49% pay all the taxes, which is exactly how the system works here in the US now. This is NOT what liberty is about.
Mike, I wasn't making a statement of personal morality. I don't agree with speed limits, and I don't agree with graduated penalties. Re-read my last post to you Mike, I was in no way condoning the situation, not one bit. Think of it this way. I make the statement "Gregory Peck was perfect for the role of Mengele in 'The Boys from Brazil'."A libertarian on these boards would (based on the response to my statement in this thread) probably say something like "how could you think that 'The Boys from Brazil' was a good movie? How could you think that Gregory Peck is a good actor?" To which I would respond "I never claimed either of those things. All that I stated was that as the movie was being made anyway, the best choice for the role was Gregory Peck." This makes no inference about the quality of the movie or of Gregory Peck's acting ability. |
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« Last Edit: March 14, 2004, 10:43:49 pm by rdeacon »
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Vl4d
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I dont think the gay marriage issue is as hot as it was a few weeks ago.(which would have been the best time to strike) This Howard Stern opportunity is bigger then the gay issue ever was.
If(big IF) we could get Howard to talk about the FSP on his show, We would have 20k members by the end of that day. Lets get some ideas flowing then open the donations box.
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There are always two parties; the establishment and the movement.
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rdeacon
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The fact that Howard's market is an ideal recruiting ground for FSP members only adds to the appeal. It'll be costly, however, as advertising on WXRK isn't cheap. I dont think the gay marriage issue is as hot as it was a few weeks ago.(which would have been the best time to strike) This Howard Stern opportunity is bigger then the gay issue ever was.
If(big IF) we could get Howard to talk about the FSP on his show, We would have 20k members by the end of that day. Lets get some ideas flowing then open the donations box.
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FSDan
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jgmaynard
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We can look at the costs of advertising on Stern, but it's not shadow material (no egregious overstep of governmental powers). Could be a good demographic, though....
JM
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Thor
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2 threads going on here, 2 ideas in this post. 1.) There is also a points system that goes along with speeding fines, and if you get too many points, you loose your license to drive. That is what keeps rich people from just racking up tickets. So a graduated fine is not needed. It would just be more $ for the government and they would be more targeted. But in a 100% libertarian sociaty, road would be private and then speed limits would vary or be non existant. 2.) The best advertising is FREE advertising. Get Howard Stern turned on to the FSP as he should be pissed at the FCC. Get him to talk about it on the show, not pay for advertising. Get his followers in support. Pay for a small ad here and he will hopefully get the message... http://www.freestern.com/ |
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Thor
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Oh wee oh, ohhhh ohhhh
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Mike Lorrey
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The parents are obviously initiating force upon the taxpayer. No conflict about it.
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Thor
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It is the fiscal responsibility of the one of many VP's of human resources in NY Corp, a subsidy of USA Inc, to make sure that the office there is running smoothly without wasteful spending. Therefore the employee was told how to behave and stop wasting company money.
Hmmm... government run like a business. Only when it walks on civil liberties, not when it needs to be accountable for monumental losses elsewhere. Interesting concept. Play the "you hurt all of us" card there, but not when they can't find millions of dollars, or spend (b)millions on failed projects.
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