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maverickthree
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Evil men rule when good men do nothing.
Those with the best information are most likely to succeed.
Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
----Barry Goldwater
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MaineShark
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One of the most important officials in the county, if not THE most important. How so? In NH, Sheriff's pretty much just serve papers and transport prisoners. They have virtually no other authority. |
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"An armed society is a polite society" - this does not mean that we are polite because we fear each other.
We are not civilized because we are armed; we are armed because we are civilized..
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TJames
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Well could he make everyone his deputy to protect them from an international gun grab?
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MaineShark
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Well could he make everyone his deputy to protect them from an international gun grab? Do you really imagine that the thugs would honor that? They're thugs, so they would do what they want, regardless. |
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"An armed society is a polite society" - this does not mean that we are polite because we fear each other.
We are not civilized because we are armed; we are armed because we are civilized..
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TJames
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Do you really imagine that the thugs would honor that? They're thugs, so they would do what they want, regardless.
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And so we have a rally figure before the battle... Anyway, what do you think of the concept of occupying seats with circus clowns and hobos to prevent statist from getting elected? Why are you being such a pessimist? One step at a time? I think it will take transitional phases to achieve freedom.
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MaineShark
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And so we have a rally figure before the battle... Anyway, what do you think of the concept of occupying seats with circus clowns and hobos to prevent statist from getting elected? Why are you being such a pessimist? One step at a time? I think it will take transitional phases to achieve freedom. It will take small steps, for the most part. That's true. And I'm not being a pessimist; I'm being a realist. The "County Sheriff Project" presents an unrealistic, pie-in-the-sky idea that sheriffs will just magically create freedom, without all those pesky steps. Sheriffs in some states have power to make real change. In NH, on the other hand, they have almost no power. It's certainly better to have someone liberty-minded in there than it is to have someone who is strongly anti-liberty, but it's a minor office, and won't have the sort of impact they are suggesting. I wouldn't expend energy on helping with a sheriff's race here, until all the local reps and senators had been nailed-down with liberty-minded folks, and every town office (from selectboard on down) was addressed. Even the town meeting moderator is a more important office than county sheriff, here. It's not that sheriff is a completely unimportant position, but it's one of the least-important elected positions, so it's not the best place to expend limited resources. |
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"An armed society is a polite society" - this does not mean that we are polite because we fear each other.
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I would like to Sheriffs act as police of the police.
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MaineShark
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Jurisdiction is not power. Jurisdiction defines where you may act. It doesn't define what acts you may do. In the case of sheriffs, in NH, that's a short list.
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"An armed society is a polite society" - this does not mean that we are polite because we fear each other.
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Wesley Bodhi Freeman
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The County Sheriff Project is one of the greatest ideas going in the community.  |
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« Last Edit: July 11, 2012, 12:23:07 am by Wesley Bodhi Freeman »
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MaineShark
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Basically the same as any other cop. Except that "investigating crimes" doesn't mean that a prosecutor will actually act upon the results of the investigation. So the idea that sheriffs will be able to bring corrupt officials to justice is nonsense, as the prosecutors will simply decline to prosecute. |
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"An armed society is a polite society" - this does not mean that we are polite because we fear each other.
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Basically the same as any other cop. Except that "investigating crimes" doesn't mean that a prosecutor will actually act upon the results of the investigation. So the idea that sheriffs will be able to bring corrupt officials to justice is nonsense, as the prosecutors will simply decline to prosecute. Then elect a decent prosecutor also. It sounds like a good long term goal  |
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MaineShark
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Then elect a decent prosecutor also. It sounds like a good long term goal That would be a better goal that working on electing a cop. The prosecutor can refuse to prosecute any given case; cops can do little to prevent a prosecution. Regardless, I expect you'll find better luck looking for Bigfoot, than a "decent" prosecutor who is actually electable, since no decent person would use that system to prosecute anyone who wasn't a willing participant in it. |
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"An armed society is a polite society" - this does not mean that we are polite because we fear each other.
We are not civilized because we are armed; we are armed because we are civilized..
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Every law enforcement officer in New Hampshire is under the authority and control of the Attorney General, an appointed constitutional officer. The Attorney General can literally take over a County Attorney's Office, or a police department, if he/she saw fit. Electing a County Sheriff or County Attorney cannot stop the criminal justice system from enforcing specific laws.... only the Attorney General can do that. (and probably only for constitutional reasons) 28 USC 530D an interesting federal law which I believe illustrates the serious nature of simply refusing to enforce the law: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/530DNot so simple. |
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"Judge Katherine B. Forrest should go down in history as having pulled this Republic away from the abyss of Hell." ~ Naomi Wolf
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