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Topic: Rand Paul and Ron Paul moving to New Hampshire (Read 2915 times)
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James65
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Is there any way we could get these men to move to New Hampshire? Naturally I want to see Rand Paul retain his senate seat. But if they both moved and through their influence behind the FSP, we could have a free state. The FSP may not share their pro-life or anti-gay marriage views. Has anyone contacted Justin Amash? He is a libertarian-leaning Republican from MI. He is very young and has a long career ahead of him. On the topic of Ron Paul, you can't go wrong with this link: http://pinups4ronpaul.com/ |
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Bazil
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Would be nice if we could, but I'm not sure if they'd be elected if they moved to this area since they would be new comers to the region. No way they'd want to risk that. I think a better bet would be to get behind local liberty leaning candidates.
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"If it ain't broke, fix it till it is!"- The government | "Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often, and for the same reasons!" - a friend
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anon37268573
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IIRC, Ron Paul said he would consider moving after he retired at one point.
Maybe, we could crowd-fund a job for him at NHLA, or something. There's nothing that motivates people like money. If we could put together $150K-250K for a one year position that would probably do it. $250K would be less that $250 per NH Freestater. I would give $250 for all the press and momentum getting Ron Paul to move would bring.
Our numbers are getting large enough now that we can put significant amounts to money together for in state political efforts.
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Ficking Chucken
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The more I see and hear from Rand Paul the more I am convinced that he is not anything like a Libertarian. He seems to cast his lot with his Repub buddies unquestionably and in complete lockstep, doesn't seem to have a whole lot to say except the usual Repub mantras. Even voted for the NDAA. Now, he would rather support Romney, a total Xtian fascist, than give any credence whatsoever to the Libertarian movement. And while I am fan of free trade, I am not in favor of RepublicanTeabagger ideas of diminished(if not all together extinguished worker rights in order for the corporatocracy to earn a few more pennies.) As a Libertarian I am NOT a big fan of "organized labor". But somebody MUST be fighting for the Highest wage, I am powerless all by myself. Libertarians need to be just as fearfull of "Big Business" as they are of big government. In both cases, the system always devolves into totalitarianism and slavery. Even Jefferson recognized the dangers of corporatism and struggled for the idea of creating mechanisms for 'limiting' wealth. The free market, while an idea that I admire and expound, does little to control the "actions" of the wealthy once they gain vast amounts influence and power. Take a look at the sheer number of "profit" prisons, the growth of the 'probation' and 'watchdog' agencies (urine and blood testing), etc. All of these are free market solutions to the problem of how to enslave the population and also make them believe it was their fault. Fuck Rand Paul. He's a fucking poser. Please think before you post pro Rand Paul propaganda. I have yet to see or hear anything from him but the usual Republican nonsense.
Gary Johnson 2012
Libertarian Candidate for President of the United States.
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JasonPSorens
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Audio signature (MP3) "Experience has shown that it is difficult, if not impossible, for a populous state to be run by good laws." --Aristotle, The Politics
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TJames
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Ron Paul is much more philosophically a voluntarist than is obviously seen. He has the answer when it comes to gay marriage. NO MORE FUCKING MARRIAGE LICENSES!!!! He also recognizes that abortion is too complex for government to handle. You may THINK he is a conservative on that issue, but he is using a non-aggression argument, not a religious one. The FSP has stated that it dose not take a position on abortion, it takes hardly any positions. It's my understanding that libertarians are evenly split on abortion and I'd expect voluntarist to have the same split.
Gary Johnson is not a libertarian, at least not in the classical liberal/voluntarist sense. How about legalize and don't tax? I'd vote for him just to hold us over till Kokesh can run if he could win, but I'll just vote for him symbolically.
Big Business is a byproduct of big government. Only the government is immortal in the world they are in. Without government they would serve us or be devoured by us and the others.
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1DayAtATime
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Ron Paul mentioned maybe thinking about moving in the future in 2007, I believe. Here are a couple Ron Paul quotes and even a video. If this exploratory committee doesn't go well, maybe I ought to consider moving here [New Hampshire] and running (in) a statewide race. Ron Paul in 2007 I'm a friend of the Free State Project. Absolutely! Check it out, find out, and if you like it, join, and continue the effort! Ron Paul in 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI9ZjjEtH4g |
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John Edward Mercier
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Ron Paul is much more philosophically a voluntarist than is obviously seen. He has the answer when it comes to gay marriage. NO MORE FUCKING MARRIAGE LICENSES!!!! He also recognizes that abortion is too complex for government to handle. You may THINK he is a conservative on that issue, but he is using a non-aggression argument, not a religious one. The FSP has stated that it dose not take a position on abortion, it takes hardly any positions. It's my understanding that libertarians are evenly split on abortion and I'd expect voluntarist to have the same split.
Gary Johnson is not a libertarian, at least not in the classical liberal/voluntarist sense. How about legalize and don't tax? I'd vote for him just to hold us over till Kokesh can run if he could win, but I'll just vote for him symbolically.
Big Business is a byproduct of big government. Only the government is immortal in the world they are in. Without government they would serve us or be devoured by us and the others.
He's on the record as supporting DOMA. And he's on the record for a federal constitutional amendment to define life to begin at conception, rather than birth... how is that not a religious position? What is 'voluntary' about having to 'obey' someone else's desires? |
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TJames
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He's on the record as supporting DOMA. And he's on the record for a federal constitutional amendment to define life to begin at conception, rather than birth... how is that not a religious position? What is 'voluntary' about having to 'obey' someone else's desires?
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Ron Paul dosn't want marriage moving into the government any more than it is. We should be trying to work at getting states out of defining marriage and Ron Paul is the only one in Washington to even suggest that. Married people get a lot of benefits in tax and immigration but he wants those benefits to be more available anyway, so why have it be a federal issue for Santorum? Dose the federal government make any state recognize any out-of-state marriage? I don't think they should, but I hate that it is a state issue.
Ron Paul is a scientist. What do scientist consider life? Once we get passed the science we can debate whether or not the zygote has individual rights. I have found religious people who think he is too soft on this issue. He is not Santorum who takes this with a religious reasoning. "Murder is wrong because the Bible says" He is more like what you find if you web search "antiabortion atheist". The religious-right may favor the baby because it is sinless or because it is unbaptized depending on doctrine, and I a prolife voluntarist would favor the mother in life or death situations. Killing a third trimester baby just because you changed your mind is a meaningless wast of life. If it is done because rape than why don't we apply that argument to children? Now if you mention emotional trauma than you have an argument because I'm not there.
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