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http://www.nhmilitia.com

This link does not work. Does anyone have any others? Please note that I am interested in NH ONLY. I don't wish to join any other state at this time.

Thanks.

Hello.
To start I would suggest to first check out NH constitutional responsibility in forming and maintaining the militia then the actual statutes that codifies a militia.

The NH Constitutional sections.

[Art.] 24. [Militia.] A well regulated militia is the proper, natural, and sure defense, of a state.
[Art.] 25. [Standing Armies.] Standing armies are dangerous to liberty, and ought not to be raised, or kept up, without the consent of the legislature.
[Art.] 26. [Military Subject to Civil Power.] In all cases, and at all times, the military ought to be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power
http://www.nh.gov/constitution/billofrights.html

[Art.] 51. [Powers and Duties of Governor as Commander-in-Chief.] The governor of this state for the time being, shall be commander-in-chief of all the military forces of the state; and shall have full power, by himself or by any chief commander, or other officer or officers, from time to time, to train, instruct, exercise and govern the militia; to call forth the militia and to put in warlike posture the inhabitants of the state; to execute the laws of the state and of the United States; to suppress insurrection and to repel invasion; and, in fine, the governor is hereby entrusted with all other powers incident to the office of commander-in-chief to be exercised agreeably to the rules and regulations of the constitution and the laws of the land.
http://www.nh.gov/constitution/governor.html

The NH State Statutes.
TITLE VIII: PUBLIC DEFENSE AND VETERANS' AFFAIRS
CHAPTER 110: THE MILITIA

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-VIII.htm

Thank you Tom. Most helpful. But how do I JOIN the Militia? Can you or anyone else help me with that?

Thanks

Quote from: Sandrock on February 24, 2012, 07:17:04 am

Thank you Tom. Most helpful. But how do I JOIN the Militia? Can you or anyone else help me with that?

Thanks

There are some small NH militia groups that have gotten started, but most try to stay small and off the radar for many reasons. what part of NH are you from/in? I do know of a few good groups, one in Cheshire County and another out Manchester way. Please shoot me a message and we can talk.

Quote from: Sandrock on February 24, 2012, 07:17:04 am

Thank you Tom. Most helpful. But how do I JOIN the Militia? Can you or anyone else help me with that?

Thanks

Once your a resident of NH, and meet the requisites... you may be called to duty at any time by the Governor.

Isn't it best to locate "social groups" versus militias? Not sure if that is still the verbage used or not.

This is one of the first things I would love to join once my family makes the move to N.H. or at least get into a local "social group" that happens to enjoy shooting guns Wink

Quote from: rank420 on June 20, 2012, 09:02:01 am

For a social group with a purpose, you might check out the Appleseed Project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Appleseed
They seem to be quite active in New England.

We have appleseed shoots here in my city as well. That is the one thing that seems to be everywhere and with good reason.

Getting your rifleman patch is a big achievement and making sure your family and those around you know how to range and hit throughout various distances IS truly American.

I can't wait to get out of this city life.

I think it would be great if ex soldiers and law enforcers made an institution that taught people many of the techniques they learned. I'm sure many exist but the good ones tend to be just militia. And besides I think each village and hood should have at lest one, in the way that each town has a fire department.

Quote from: TravisJ on June 21, 2012, 01:30:02 am

I think it would be great if ex soldiers and law enforcers made an institution that taught people many of the techniques they learned.

Mostly, they've just learned how to harass and intimidate innocents. Particularly in the case of cops. NRA Basic Pistol (which, as the name says, is the most basic course in their catalog) provides more and better training than cops receive at the police academy.
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Direct combat is not the only thing they teach. We need to learn things like survival, stress management, and stealth. We can learn all this by driving around New England, but wouldn't it be great to have it all at one local camp. The statist that are convertible will need to see that we have a visible alternative to provide national defense, because they believe their guns and friends list are not enough without a state.

You make a point I concede. I once knew a soldier who surprised his co-workers with his abilities when he joined the force.

Anyway, I'm not saying we should seek out those with whom we have fundamental disagreements with. I'd pay converts to teach me combat. How many US military veterans do you think are involved in the FSP?

There are a number of veterans.

But I don't think they are taught the things you're looking to learn. And less so would have the skill to teach, even if they knew them.

There are some veterans who've come over, who probably can teach those sorts of things, but that's because they, personally, have sought to learn them, and learn how to teach them, not because of their training in the military. The fact that they are veterans is coincidence.

Well, as a former Infantryman in the Army and veteran of Afghanistan (OEF IX and X), I thought I'd chime in. This is also my very first post, so if I skipped some rule about posting an introduction first, I apologize. I'm new here Cheesy

There are special schools in the Army (such as SERE) that come to mind, but those are often reserved for SOF and aviation units. It's not very likely that a regular meat shield like myself would have been given the go-ahead to attend that kind of training. The only things I learned in the Infantry were how to operate and maintain various U.S. weapons. We spent a lot of time at the range, and I came out a better marksman than before I enlisted, but I doubt I could teach much to anyone but a complete newbie.

Thorsen. I often talk about cutting tax so much that the government would cease to exist. If that were to happen the risk of America being attacked would shrink, but many think we should have a backup plan and if I have combat training that I payed for personally then I can better justify my political views.

You and I don't know if I will need this to survive. The unthinkable often happened in the futures passed. It is up to me to judge if it is useful and if it is useless to me I won't buy it. Sun Tzu wrote a book that has practical application in many fields.

Quote from: americanpatriot28 on July 09, 2012, 07:31:26 pm

The political process is meant to be peaceful, as says the Constitution.

Politics is violence. Nothing else.

Quote from: americanpatriot28 on July 09, 2012, 07:31:26 pm

Cutting taxes to the point that the government will cease to exist makes no sense either. State government will and SHOULD always be present, including, a LIMITED role by the Federal Government.....again.....as says the Constitution.

The Constitution was unlawfully enacted by a body that was only authorized to amend the Articles of Confederation, not replace them. When the accursed Federalists pulled off their treason, that was the shot that killed the Republic. It's just been a long, drawn-out death rattle.

I always find it amusing when someone complains about the current state of the US, and then starts talking about the Constitution as the cure. We tried the Constitution. This current mess is what we got.

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

Quote from: americanpatriot28 on July 09, 2012, 07:31:26 pm

Regardless, even if the government did cease to exist (which by the way is unconstitutional), the Constitution protects us by saying we have the right to bear arms, and have the right to keep and maintain a state militia.

Really? So, that's why there are no laws whatsoever restricting the right to keep and bear arms? Sorry, but I can't see how the Constitution has done much of a job of protecting that right. There are literally thousands of gun laws in the US, every one of which violates the RKBA. The Constitution has, clearly, failed to protect that right.

Quote from: americanpatriot28 on July 09, 2012, 07:31:26 pm

Even IF the government "ceased to exist", and "the risk of America being attacked would shrink" as you put it, why would you find it necessary to learn combat skills? The risk has "shrunk", right? Wouldn't that mean you are less in need of combat training then, than you are now?

Having sprinklers in your house reduces the risk if there's a fire. It's still a good idea to have fire extinguishers...

Quote from: americanpatriot28 on July 09, 2012, 07:31:26 pm

Remember, just because you pay for something doesn't mean it is useful. Timothy Mcveigh probably thought it was useful to buy a bunch of fertilizer, turns out it wasn't for the good of mankind was it?

Indeed. Sort of like all the money spent by the US on bombs and ammunition to murder folks all over the world.

Quote from: americanpatriot28 on July 09, 2012, 07:31:26 pm

Join the Army!, or, wait until it is necessary brother. I'm telling you, no soldier in their right mind would teach you war, I don't care how "angry" they are at the government.

Few soldiers know anything about war. Most know nothing but terrorism.

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