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Is Islam more pro-free market and libertarian?
« on: October 19, 2011, 03:28:54 pm »

I've read that the Muslim World (Ottoman Empire and before) was much more free market libertarian than most of the western world was. I want to explore this more. I've also heard that Islam as a religion/philosophy demands better standards of business than most western philosophy. Does anyone know if this is true?
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 04:15:05 pm »

You ask for truth about subjective questions?
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Re: Is Islam more pro-free market and libertarian?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 04:16:34 pm »

As the self-anointed archivist, it is my duty to point out that this seems to be a splinter from the "covering Iran's butt is of upmost importance" thread.

People may also find interesting my Islam "trollversion" thread from the Fraud-Tits-Libricide BBS, which belongs to the genre of anti-socialist "disappointment satire" and makes many pro-Islamic arguments.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2011, 04:29:48 pm »

As the self-anointed archivist, it is my duty to point out that this seems to be a splinter from the "covering Iran's butt is of upmost importance" thread.

People may also find interesting my Islam "trollversion" thread from the Fraud-Tits-Libricide BBS, which belongs to the genre of anti-socialist "disappointment satire" and makes many pro-Islamic arguments.

Huh??
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Re: Is Islam more pro-free market and libertarian?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2011, 04:45:04 pm »

I'm sorry, but I don't do Vulcan mind-melds with hunter-gatherer vegan Muslims.

You're gonna have to exercise your reading comprehension skills on your own...
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2011, 04:48:55 pm »

I'm sorry, but I don't do Vulcan mind-melds with hunter-gatherer vegan Muslims.

You're gonna have to exercise your reading comprehension skills on your own...

So what's your deal w/ Muslims and Islam?
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Re: Is Islam more pro-free market and libertarian?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2011, 11:10:27 pm »

I think millions of them would behead me if they could.

And, just to make sure, there's THIS thread.




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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2011, 11:36:27 pm »

I think millions of them would behead me if they could.

And, just to make sure, there's THIS thread.






How would you know? Do you know what Islam teaches?
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2011, 12:31:09 am »

I've listened to the Quran plus about 80 additional hours of pro-Islamic audio-books / podcasts on the subject.  I wasn't fully awake for most of it though.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2011, 05:50:08 am »

How would you know? Do you know what Islam teaches?

Islam is an abstract concept and does not teach anything. People have their own conceptions of what Islam is, and people teach what they think.

It'd be like saying Christianity teaches that you should love your fellow man. But, not literally, 'cause then you're sinful homosexual and will burn in hell. People hold these opinions. They aren't inherent in the abstract idea.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 04:19:29 pm »

It'd be like saying Christianity teaches that you should love your fellow man. But, not literally, 'cause then you're sinful homosexual and will burn in hell.

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2011, 04:36:14 pm »

How would you know? Do you know what Islam teaches?

Islam is an abstract concept and does not teach anything. People have their own conceptions of what Islam is, and people teach what they think.

It'd be like saying Christianity teaches that you should love your fellow man. But, not literally, 'cause then you're sinful homosexual and will burn in hell. People hold these opinions. They aren't inherent in the abstract idea.

Compare Islam during its golden age and Christianity around the same time. Which society would you rather live in as a libertarian who believes in free markets?
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2011, 05:29:30 pm »

In an Islamic country... you'd get your hands cut off for loaning money at interest.
So I guess it depends whether I wanted to forgo interest... or forgo my hands... or live within the Christian realm.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 05:36:06 pm »

In an Islamic country... you'd get your hands cut off for loaning money at interest.
So I guess it depends whether I wanted to forgo interest... or forgo my hands... or live within the Christian realm.


Aren't you always bringing up the "success" of mutualism on this forum?
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2011, 06:27:05 pm »

How would you know? Do you know what Islam teaches?

Islam is an abstract concept and does not teach anything. People have their own conceptions of what Islam is, and people teach what they think.

It'd be like saying Christianity teaches that you should love your fellow man. But, not literally, 'cause then you're sinful homosexual and will burn in hell. People hold these opinions. They aren't inherent in the abstract idea.

Compare Islam during its golden age and Christianity around the same time. Which society would you rather live in as a libertarian who believes in free markets?

You're still thinking in abstractions that you're not completely communicating. When are these time periods you refer to? And, admitting there is some "golden age" to each, why do you think religion itself has some particular affect on other considerations? And that those religious beliefs haven't changed over time such that Islam referred to in some time past is still the Islam we typically think of today. Not to mention that a religion is not a society. Historically, civilizations and economic progress wax and wane without almost complete indifference to particular religious beliefs.
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