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Topic: Baja Arizona - the 51st State Project? (Read 2107 times)
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I couldn't read the story due to a massive ad the traveled with the page and blocked most of the text. What did it say?
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More weird news brewing in the Ol' West: A political committee called "Start Our State" has officially registered in Arizona, seeking statehood for Pima Country in the southern part of the state. Lawmakers in Tucson are apparently so frustrated with disagreements in policy that they want to break away from Phoenix completely. Start Our State's mission is to "restore our region's credibility as a place welcoming to others, open to commerce, and friendly to its neighbors," a press release says.
"I think once you take a step back and think about it, it starts to make more and more sense," said co-founder of "Start Our State co-founder Peter Hormel tells ABC15. "I and some other people finally got so frustrated with what's happening in Phoenix that we felt obligated to do something about it." If the Arizona legislature approves, and the president seals the deal—probably a longshot—then the 51st state will be named Baja Arizona and its capital will be Tucson.
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Just below the site title on Drudge - Liberals in southern Arizona seek to form new state..."Liberals" (aka socialists) are bad. Secession is generally good (unless in the process it strengthens greater homogenization between jurisdictions, like by the Federal or a World Government, thus actually resulting in less intergovernmental competition). The more choices of governance people have, and the easier it is to move between them, the better. Changing governments should be as easy as changing jobs (within the same profession). Given the objective scientific process of competition, the free market will ultimately prevail, as socialist hellholes like Southern Arizona will simply run out of competent people to tax. It is therefore perfectly rational to support this secession movement, while at the same time gleefully anticipating their misery (until of course they reform). If they attain any degree of success, it would validate some of the constrictive criticism I've offered about the Free State Project over the years, including the call to focus on acquiring cheap land and applying economic pressure to create enclaves within the state that would gradually evolve toward secession - municipal, state, national, etc. |
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« Last Edit: May 10, 2011, 03:14:38 pm by Alex Libman »
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J If they attain any degree of success, it would validate some of the constrictive criticism I've offered about the Free State Project over the years, including the call to focus on acquiring cheap land and applying economic pressure to create enclaves within the state that would gradually evolve toward secession - municipal, state, national, etc. Indeed that criticism is constrictive. |
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More weird news brewing in the Ol' West: A political committee called "Start Our State" has officially registered in Arizona, seeking statehood for Pima Country in the southern part of the state. Lawmakers in Tucson are apparently so frustrated with disagreements in policy that they want to break away from Phoenix completely. Start Our State's mission is to "restore our region's credibility as a place welcoming to others, open to commerce, and friendly to its neighbors," a press release says.
"I think once you take a step back and think about it, it starts to make more and more sense," said co-founder of "Start Our State co-founder Peter Hormel tells ABC15. "I and some other people finally got so frustrated with what's happening in Phoenix that we felt obligated to do something about it." If the Arizona legislature approves, and the president seals the deal—probably a longshot—then the 51st state will be named Baja Arizona and its capital will be Tucson.
They won't be succeeding from the union but only from the state. I don't see the president being totally against it. However, I don't see him having a reason to support it. Nonetheless, it is a good idea. More liberty loving counties should secede from the nanny/big government states. |
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Can New Hampshire end the exhausting trail of wandering for Kallen??? Kallen is counting on it.  |
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Constitutional validity?
Ahhhh, who needs that when we have the "historic precedent" of West Virginia. A new state formed within an existing state by Congressional decree, due to the divide in political beliefs.  |
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John Edward Mercier
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I would think that getting congressional approval will be rather hard.
Since unlike the previous formations, there isn't a national level issue to help develop the consensus.
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