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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2010, 09:28:04 pm »

This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.

Don't worry. The wolves are unarmed.

And if you shoot them, they will have to make an appointment a month out to see their PCP to get their wounds patched up.
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2010, 09:36:30 pm »

This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.

Don't worry. The wolves are unarmed.

 Grin True, for the most part.

Here in NYC, its pretty easy to get guns illegally. Just dont get caught or you're fuked. Mandatory minimums are in effect now.
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2010, 09:45:51 pm »

This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.
Actually the States around us are not as statist as one may think. Each has its areas that are more liberty than NH.


Hmm, i disagree. Just from a geographical angle, the FSP could not have picked a worse state. Regional politics do exist, you see it in other parts of the country. The fact that NH has held out so well is pretty damn impressive. For how long, who knows.
VT to my knowledge has much more liberty-orientated firearms laws (or lack of, depending on how you wish to think about it). And I'm sure I could find areas of Maine or Mass laws that are more suited toward individual liberty...
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2010, 10:01:48 pm »

This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.
Actually the States around us are not as statist as one may think. Each has its areas that are more liberty than NH.


Hmm, i disagree. Just from a geographical angle, the FSP could not have picked a worse state. Regional politics do exist, you see it in other parts of the country. The fact that NH has held out so well is pretty damn impressive. For how long, who knows.
VT to my knowledge has much more liberty-orientated firearms laws (or lack of, depending on how you wish to think about it). And I'm sure I could find areas of Maine or Mass laws that are more suited toward individual liberty...

VT does have lenient gun laws, i think the sparse population has alot to do with that. Otherwise, its a nightmare run by tree-hugging statists. Crazy high taxes. They elected a self-declared communist to the Senate, for cryin' out loud.
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2010, 10:21:10 pm »

VT to my knowledge has much more liberty-orientated firearms laws (or lack of, depending on how you wish to think about it). And I'm sure I could find areas of Maine or Mass laws that are more suited toward individual liberty...

They seem to both be very good compared to most other states form what I understand.  VT is better in some areas and NH is better in others.  In 2 years, I wouldn't be surprised if it was easy to tell than NH's laws are comparatively better.

Though, you have a good point.  The nudity laws tend to be far superior in VT too.  Although, I don't know of any state with nudity laws as unrestrictive as VT.
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2010, 12:11:49 pm »

You're a statist Thom, i wasnt directing my comments towards you. Obviously, you wouldnt mind NY or Mass.

As for marriage, who im with is none of any bureaucrat's busness.

Statist?  After 25 posts and having never met me....you're either psychic (and a phony one at that) or a little impressed with your own [lack of] knowledge.
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2010, 12:48:26 pm »

You're a statist Thom, i wasnt directing my comments towards you. Obviously, you wouldnt mind NY or Mass.

As for marriage, who im with is none of any bureaucrat's busness.

Statist?  After 25 posts and having never met me....you're either psychic (and a phony one at that) or a little impressed with your own [lack of] knowledge.

thom a statist... now that is funny.
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2011, 12:45:33 am »

Didn't vermont have a movement like the free state project back in the 70's - except in reverse?  I seem to remember a movement for super liberals to move to vermont with a goal to change vermont from a very conservative state into a liberal state.  More than 50,000 made the move, if memory serves.
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 01:16:32 am »

Didn't vermont have a movement like the free state project back in the 70's - except in reverse?  I seem to remember a movement for super liberals to move to vermont with a goal to change vermont from a very conservative state into a liberal state.  More than 50,000 made the move, if memory serves.

50000?? no wonder VT is so statist. If 50000 liberty lovers moved to NH in the next ten years the size of its gov. would finally shrink after years of being grown by Mass statists.
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2011, 07:00:31 am »

Didn't vermont have a movement like the free state project back in the 70's - except in reverse?  I seem to remember a movement for super liberals to move to vermont with a goal to change vermont from a very conservative state into a liberal state.  More than 50,000 made the move, if memory serves.

The "back to the land" movement...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-the-land_movement
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2011, 08:12:38 am »

Statist are still moving from NY and MA to VT.  More liberty people are still moving from MA to NH.  I don't see either migration stopping anytime in the next 20 years.
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Re: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2011, 11:06:43 am »

Didn't vermont have a movement like the free state project back in the 70's - except in reverse?  I seem to remember a movement for super liberals to move to vermont with a goal to change vermont from a very conservative state into a liberal state.  More than 50,000 made the move, if memory serves.

The "back to the land" movement...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-the-land_movement
Happened in NH also, but tended to result in a higher degree of yankee libertarianism.
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