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Topic: New Hampshire - Vermont's cranky pal (Read 2742 times)
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That's from Family Guy  I have no idea what it means but there you have it. |
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Bazil
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On a side note the boundary between VT and NH is probably one of the most contrasting geopolitical boundaries in the US. From the State that elects people like Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders to NH the Live Free or Die State. All traversable in one step, you'd never think two places so close would have such contrasting views.
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"If it ain't broke, fix it till it is!"- The government | "Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often, and for the same reasons!" - a friend
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Andvari
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This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.
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This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.
but it has been that way for the past 50 years.... and has held out... .and now with more people moving in it will hold out. |
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creaganlios
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On a side note the boundary between VT and NH is probably one of the most contrasting geopolitical boundaries in the US. From the State that elects people like Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders to NH the Live Free or Die State. All traversable in one step, you'd never think two places so close would have such contrasting views.
Actually, that boundary does not run down the state boundary...it runs somewhere north-south through Peterborough. The NH River towns were originally part of Vermont, and continue to reflect both the liberal and civil libertarian streaks of that state. In colonial america, rivers were travel thoroughfares, and crossing the Monadnocks was difficult at best. When Vermont requested admission as the 14th State, one of the requirements was that she 'give back' all the towns on the east side of the river to NH....but we who reside in those towns continue to be more comfortable with one foot in each state :-) |
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John Edward Mercier
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On a side note the boundary between VT and NH is probably one of the most contrasting geopolitical boundaries in the US. From the State that elects people like Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders to NH the Live Free or Die State. All traversable in one step, you'd never think two places so close would have such contrasting views.
Actually, that boundary does not run down the state boundary...it runs somewhere north-south through Peterborough. The NH River towns were originally part of Vermont, and continue to reflect both the liberal and civil libertarian streaks of that state. In colonial america, rivers were travel thoroughfares, and crossing the Monadnocks was difficult at best. When Vermont requested admission as the 14th State, one of the requirements was that she 'give back' all the towns on the east side of the river to NH....but we who reside in those towns continue to be more comfortable with one foot in each state :-) Give Back? VT was being claimed by NH and NY. |
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John Edward Mercier
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This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.
Actually the States around us are not as statist as one may think. Each has its areas that are more liberty than NH. |
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WendellBerry
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On a side note the boundary between VT and NH is probably one of the most contrasting geopolitical boundaries in the US. From the State that elects people like Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders to NH the Live Free or Die State. All traversable in one step, you'd never think two places so close would have such contrasting views.
Actually, that boundary does not run down the state boundary...it runs somewhere north-south through Peterborough. The NH River towns were originally part of Vermont, and continue to reflect both the liberal and civil libertarian streaks of that state. In colonial america, rivers were travel thoroughfares, and crossing the Monadnocks was difficult at best. When Vermont requested admission as the 14th State, one of the requirements was that she 'give back' all the towns on the east side of the river to NH....but we who reside in those towns continue to be more comfortable with one foot in each state :-) Give Back? VT was being claimed by NH and NY. VT use to be called the NH Grants. The fight was between Vermont freehold settlers and the yorkers from the west who wanted to establish a manorial system of land ownership. |
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creaganlios
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You're all referring to the well-known spat prior to the Ratification of the Constitution. I'm referring to the boundaries of the Inependent Republic of Vermont, which included the Monadnock Towns, until Vermont came in as the 14th State.
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This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.
Actually the States around us are not as statist as one may think. Each has its areas that are more liberty than NH. Hmm, i disagree. Just from a geographical angle, the FSP could not have picked a worse state. Regional politics do exist, you see it in other parts of the country. The fact that NH has held out so well is pretty damn impressive. For how long, who knows. |
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Hmm, i disagree. Just from a geographical angle, the FSP could not have picked a worse state. Regional politics do exist, you see it in other parts of the country. The fact that NH has held out so well is pretty damn impressive. For how long, who knows.
Held out against what? Quite frankly, I'd live in Maine, Massachusetts, New York or Vermont in a FLASH before I;d live anywhere south of the mason-dixon...with the possible exceptions of holing up in New Orleans, Austin, Fort Lauderdale, the Keys or San Antonio.... Fortunately, I can live in New Hampshire, which is my first choice....although I'm ready to pick up and leave in a moment's notice if my marriage is successfully invalidated by the incoming theocrats... |
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Andvari
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You're a statist Thom, i wasnt directing my comments towards you. Obviously, you wouldnt mind NY or Mass.
As for marriage, who im with is none of any bureaucrat's busness.
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Bazil
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This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.
Actually the States around us are not as statist as one may think. Each has its areas that are more liberty than NH. Hmm, i disagree. Just from a geographical angle, the FSP could not have picked a worse state. Regional politics do exist, you see it in other parts of the country. The fact that NH has held out so well is pretty damn impressive. For how long, who knows. I think politics are more like magnets more than heat. If you have an area where there is a regional political disparity people will tend to move a small distance to be more comfortable (I did before the FSP). If you look at southern NH which is very close to statist Boston it actually leans more libertarian than northern NH because the people in Boston are moving to southern NH to get away from the statism. So I think it's location actually strengthens it's roots. Yeah other states near by do have liberty leaning areas in them. North central MA, northern ME. However over all NH is freer. |
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"If it ain't broke, fix it till it is!"- The government | "Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often, and for the same reasons!" - a friend
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This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.
IMO, there would be a lot less liberty in NH if it wasn't located where it is. Lots of the voters in NH moved there because of the liberty culture and this tend is around 200 years old. The NH economy and tax system are partially based on it because more pro-liberty state surrounded by less pro-liberty states. I want the states near NH to move in the direct of increased liberty but I'm not so sure if it will be good for liberty in NH (at least for several years, and that's only if powerful people react in certain ways in NH). I think if you lived in NH for years or know a great deal about the state your views would change completely. Live Free or Die. |
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« Last Edit: December 15, 2010, 08:32:57 pm by Freedomroad »
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B.D. Ross
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This is one thing that worries me about the future of NH, its smack dab in the middle of Statist New England---a bastion of liberty surrounded by wolves. I hope she doesnt fall like the rest.
Don't worry. The wolves are unarmed. |
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