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Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« on: September 17, 2010, 10:27:12 pm »

Now that Lew Rockwell has endorsed the liberty movement I say it's time to convince the Mises Institute to relocate to NH and bring up the Free State Project to their supporters. Anyone else agree?
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 12:08:54 pm »

not gonna happen.

Several years down the line I think we should just start our own version.
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 02:45:16 pm »

not gonna happen.

Several years down the line I think we should just start our own version.

Yes we should.
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 11:04:36 pm »

I've always thought that we should set up some kind of Jefferson University or something in N'Hampshire that actually awarded degrees and what not.  By offering cheaper tuition and dodging all of that FAFSA paperwork, novice students could attend a college and gain a real degree that helps them down the road.

Not all liberal arts colleges are accredited, so it would be possible to set up a curriculum that's diverse without breaking the bank.  It's not expensive to teach math, science, history, art, music, economics, etc.  Completion of 20 classes gets you an Associates degree--40 gets you a BA.  It would also be nice for folks with existing degrees to add a BA to an existing BS or MS, or for folks (like me) to take my BSEE attempted and turn it into a BA from Jefferson University.
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 11:20:16 pm »

I've always thought that we should set up some kind of Jefferson University or something in N'Hampshire that actually awarded degrees and what not.  By offering cheaper tuition and dodging all of that FAFSA paperwork, novice students could attend a college and gain a real degree that helps them down the road.

Not all liberal arts colleges are accredited, so it would be possible to set up a curriculum that's diverse without breaking the bank.  It's not expensive to teach math, science, history, art, music, economics, etc.  Completion of 20 classes gets you an Associates degree--40 gets you a BA.  It would also be nice for folks with existing degrees to add a BA to an existing BS or MS, or for folks (like me) to take my BSEE attempted and turn it into a BA from Jefferson University.

there is very little reason for a non accredited school to bother with the brick and mortar, especially if we aren't talking about the types of classes that require a lot of hands on involvement.
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 11:27:45 pm »

I've always thought that we should set up some kind of Jefferson University or something in N'Hampshire that actually awarded degrees and what not.  By offering cheaper tuition and dodging all of that FAFSA paperwork, novice students could attend a college and gain a real degree that helps them down the road.

Not all liberal arts colleges are accredited, so it would be possible to set up a curriculum that's diverse without breaking the bank.  It's not expensive to teach math, science, history, art, music, economics, etc.  Completion of 20 classes gets you an Associates degree--40 gets you a BA.  It would also be nice for folks with existing degrees to add a BA to an existing BS or MS, or for folks (like me) to take my BSEE attempted and turn it into a BA from Jefferson University.

I think we should take it a step further and set up liberty-oriented high schools and middle schools. Free staters need places to educate the next generation.
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2010, 11:39:28 pm »

I'm a strong believer in the model of formal schooling coupled with out of class research.  For a Mises Institute-NH, I also like the idea of having a relatively large, traditional campus surrounded by shops, businesses and houses.  That way, the school can grow with time, and the students can benefit from being around lots of other folks their age.  The side benefit to a large, lively campus is that students can get into bands, clubs, teams, etc.

I think of that as being possible with 100-200 students.

Anyway, that's a big part of college life.
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2010, 12:52:23 am »


Lew Rockwell and Gary North on the state of universities and brick and mortar schooling in general:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2010/09/14/162-overthrow-the-universities-and-the-public-schools-too/

My idea for Mises NH, would not be to copy what they are doing in Auburn.  There really isn't a reason for that too exist.  LvMI is great for people who find liberty to educate themselves as much as their hearts desire into the real meat of libertarian thought and Austrian Economics.  The only semi formal teaching they do is each summer they have a week long summit called 'Mises U' where a couple hundred college kids will come down for an intensive week of study, and then there is the new Mises academy which is online and more like an actual online college course, and not necessarily targeted at college students.

Where I think there could be a role for a NH based 'think tank' would be in terms of mass education in a specific area.  mises.org is a beacon of light for all of the English speaking world, but you sort of have to be plugged into the liberty movement to even find yourself there, and you need to put in some commitment to do a lot of reading for yourself. Whereas I think a NH based group could specialize in ways to spread simple basic (free market/libertarian) ideas in the most effective way to a large number of people in a given area. Changing the way the average man on the street thinks about things in economic terms, even if only slightly.  I don't really think the liberty movement needs another think tank that tries to influence DC, or publish theoretical papers, or simply host a bunch of great literature for free, I think we are ready to see the economist-activist.

 Also, to do research on the activism that goes on in NH.  Most of the LvMI folks are not too into activism, and it makes sense for them.  If you are a fellow at the Mises Institute, you can do a lot more for the cause by going around giving lectures and writing books, convincing more people of liberty, or moving liberty minded people even further down the path.
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2010, 03:21:48 pm »

I think that the economics of it all work out pretty well as a traditional campus.  I would love to attend a college and finish my degree there with other students.  At a minimum, you would only need a library/book store, a few classrooms, and computer lab.  Lots of classes could be organized around that.

Food and lodging can be taken care of in the private sector, eh.
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 05:43:07 pm »

Now that Lew Rockwell has endorsed the liberty movement I say it's time to convince the Mises Institute to relocate to NH and bring up the Free State Project to their supporters. Anyone else agree?

This was a great idea of yours.  How far have you come?  Do you have a written plan?  Did you convince anyone?  Do you need any help?
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Re: Convincing Mises Institute Disciples to move to NH
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 11:24:58 am »

We used to advertise on the LRC podcast.  I headed that up.  If I get a spare minute, I might put up a chipin to do that again.
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