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Topic: Initiative to legalize pot on california ballot. (Read 3552 times)
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jmayes
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The initiative to legalize pot just collected the amount of signatures to be put on the ballot. Considering that roughly half of the state supports legalizing weed, this seems very likely that weed might be legalized. I'm thinking that this will be the beginning of a whole new infrastructure of private enterprise. Just think of everything that will be needed to meet consumer demand on this one. Although, I'm not sure whether or not this would legalize wholesale production and distribution of weed. If it doesn't there would still be plenty of interesting business opportunities. or Maybe they might wake up and see how screwed they are.
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"The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence."
Ron Paul-Freedom Under Siege
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Polemic
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Here in Los Angeles, there has already been a huge influx of medical marijuana dispensaries.
It's estimated that only half of them are operating within the law - mostly because the laws governing them are so convoluted that few lay people can follow them.
I would vote to pass such an initiative, but I think the public at large will misguidedly vote for the government to protect them from the evils of dope rather than rely on the own good sense and judgment.
I'd love to be proven wrong.
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"Optimists proclaim that we live in the best of all possible worlds; pessimists fear that this is true."
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TANSTAAFL76
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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jmayes
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That's true. I haven't thought of it from that angle.
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"The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence."
Ron Paul-Freedom Under Siege
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1DayAtATime
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It is similar to the way casinos work in modern day America. It likely makes the government larger and reduces freedom for the average person. But maybe increases it, at least in an area or two for the people that partake in the action. |
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Something that can be accomplished by citizen's petition right now is reducing pot enforcement to the lowest issue of enforcement.
"Upon a petition by (your name here), to see if the town/city of _____________ shall reduce enforcement of the private use, sale, or possession of marijuana to the lowest priority of law enforcement.
Name (First Last) Signature address (house number and street)
1. ______________________ ________________ ________________________________
2. ______________________ ________________ ________________________________
3. ______________________ ________________ ________________________________
4. ____and so on..."
Different towns have different signature requirements, but that is one way to get something passed... and to bring the drug issue to the forefront of political debate. Be sure to use 14 point font or better for the signatures, and sign your own name first. You may have to water it down to get it passed. For example, adding statements like, "for adults," or, "within a private home." It is still a major step in the right direction if it passes. Folks might amend it at the deliberative session, but the issue will still come up.
The deadline for most petitions is about two months before the town vote, three for zoning changes.
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We're in need of volunteers to help out with Freedom Expo. PM one of the organizers (like me) if you'd like to help.
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Ooooooooookay.
Point being, that it's been done in other towns and can be accomplished locally.
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We're in need of volunteers to help out with Freedom Expo. PM one of the organizers (like me) if you'd like to help.
"The Free State Project is an agreement among 20,000 pro-liberty activists to move to New Hampshire, where they will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property." Freedom Expo is at Trinity Parish House, Seabrook, April 27, 2013! (right next to the Post Office)
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John Edward Mercier
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Municipal Corporations can not over ride the Legislature, which created them... nor can they procure selective enforcement under State statute.
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The voters can direct their town governments and elected bodies to act, and they can change the "priority." When the voters reduce the enforcement of a particular law to the "lowest priority," they are telling all of their public officials that this is not something that they want done. Further, voters in New Hampshire can include an item for "marijuana enforcement" in their town budget and set it to zero. No town funding can then be used for that purpose under RSA 32.
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We're in need of volunteers to help out with Freedom Expo. PM one of the organizers (like me) if you'd like to help.
"The Free State Project is an agreement among 20,000 pro-liberty activists to move to New Hampshire, where they will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property." Freedom Expo is at Trinity Parish House, Seabrook, April 27, 2013! (right next to the Post Office)
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John Edward Mercier
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You have a specific budget line for 'Marijuana Enforcement'?
And no they can't set priorities on what laws to enforce... the NH Constitution is very specific to this. The town would be placed in receivership.
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RSA 21:10,e
DRA refers to this as "No means no."
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We're in need of volunteers to help out with Freedom Expo. PM one of the organizers (like me) if you'd like to help.
"The Free State Project is an agreement among 20,000 pro-liberty activists to move to New Hampshire, where they will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property." Freedom Expo is at Trinity Parish House, Seabrook, April 27, 2013! (right next to the Post Office)
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B.D. Ross
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You have a specific budget line for 'Marijuana Enforcement'?
And no they can't set priorities on what laws to enforce... the NH Constitution is very specific to this. The town would be placed in receivership.
Huh? No they wouldn't. No law obligates local police to enforce any particular law. They couldn't even if they wanted to. ... I'm not aware of anything in the Constitution on this point. What are you looking at? |
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John Edward Mercier
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[Art.] 29. [Suspension of Laws by Legislature Only.] The power of suspending the laws, or the execution of them, ought never to be exercised but by the legislature, or by authority derived therefrom, to be exercised in such particular cases only as the legislature shall expressly provide for.
June 2, 1784
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Unlike an officer using personal judgement... a municipality voting to do so would violate the above provision.
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« Last Edit: October 30, 2010, 12:11:10 pm by John Edward Mercier »
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John Edward Mercier
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RSA 21:10,e
DRA refers to this as "No means no."
21:10 Charter. – The word ""charter'' may include the articles of agreement by which a corporation is formed under the general laws. I didn't find a clause 'e'. |
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