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Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« on: July 20, 2009, 11:05:20 pm »

    I know it's not as big a deal for most people as the right to carry a gun but for me a knife is just as important if not more so. I don't carry my gun every day but i always have my pocket knife. I use everyday and it would be an inconvenience to not have it.

    Having said that I recently got in some trouble with the law here in Ohio for just carrying it. I was spotted using it to open a package outside Giant Eagle and got a good talking to and was threatened with arrest by a police officer.  That's the fist time I've ever had a problem but it got me really worked up that I'm not allowed to carry a tool thats been around since the stone age. I'm carry around A semi auto pistol with an 8 round magazine loaded with hollow points and I"M NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A KNIFE. WTF  ??? I don''t even consider it a defensive or offensive weapon it's just a tool for god sakes.

    It's not even a big knife it's a Leatherman with a 3 inch blade, and two screwdrivers. I was so Ped off at that officer but around here they don't mess around if you talk back to them. So I had to keep my mouth shut and just give him the evil eye. I would have loved to tell his high and mighty butt to go F himself.  >:(

So when I do move to NH will I be able to carry around my knife?
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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2009, 11:24:55 pm »

159:16 Carrying or Selling Weapons. – Whoever, except as provided by the laws of this state, sells, has in his possession with intent to sell, or carries on his person any stiletto, switch knife, blackjack, dagger, dirk-knife, slung shot or metallic knuckles shall be guilty of a misdemeanor; and such weapon or articles so carried by him shall be confiscated to the use of the state.

Source. 1973, 370:16; 1992, 273:2, eff. July 17, 1992.
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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2009, 11:28:00 pm »

You would like Evan Nappen.  He's a free stater who moved to NH and has had many articles published in blade magazine.  He also started this cause on facebook.

I'm looking in his book to get the answer to your question.

Now, I'm not absolutely sure, here, because I've just done a cursory search, but it looks like you'd be fine.  You can carry a knife so long as it's not a weapon.  Weapon knives are covered in RSA 159:16 which says you can't carry them (doesn't say you can't own them).  

I'm not your lawyer, and, as I said, didn't research this too extensively, but that's how it looks to me.
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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 01:01:19 am »

And don't forget the "Definition" section.

RSA 625:11 General Definitions. – The following definitions apply to this code.

V. ""Deadly weapon'' means any firearm, knife or other substance or thing which, in the manner it is used, intended to be used, or threatened to be used, is known to be capable of producing death or serious bodily injury.
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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 01:31:06 am »

And don't forget the "Definition" section.

RSA 625:11 General Definitions. – The following definitions apply to this code.

V. ""Deadly weapon'' means any firearm, knife or other substance or thing which, in the manner it is used, intended to be used, or threatened to be used, is known to be capable of producing death or serious bodily injury.

The bic pen I'm chewing on right now could be a deadly weapon if i jammed it in your neck. (Not that i would.)  ;)

I think we need to force our government to define things like this better not just have a blanket law that could be interpreted in just about anyway they see fit. 
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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 04:52:30 am »

I think as long as the knife has only one sharp edge you're fine.

That's a crazy story too. The cop was probably just being a typical asshole cop but still. A Leatherman is not a fucking real weapon.
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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2009, 09:26:26 am »

I've walked down the street with a bowie strapped on.

I always have a knife on me, except the handful of times I've needed to go into court.

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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2009, 10:23:23 am »

Here we see a phenomenon which was addressed in "The Market For Liberty" and I'm sure elsewhere many times.

Statute law, by its very nature, doesn't work. If a law is written to cover a specific instance, bad-guys (or good lawyers) will find a way around the law. So laws have to be written so broadly that they cannot be "lawyered" around.

The problem becomes that the law is now so general that specific cases where application of the law goes beyond all reason fall into its voracious maw. So lawmakers turn around and try to specify what the law really means, and we are back again into the same old boom-bust cycle and the law libraries grow and grow.

What we have is centuries of accumulated statute law, which cannot be fair, just or rational.

It is far past time to push for repeal of laws, not just more laws.

What happens if the "knife law" is repealed? Nothing. If anyone attacks anyone else with a weapon, be it bic pen or claymore sword, it's still an attack and still fully "against the law".
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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2009, 10:41:33 am »

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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 08:09:18 pm »

Yes, it's an old thread, but it needs updated.
Knives are no longer illegal in NH.
Thanks Jen.

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=20527.0

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=20760.0
« Last Edit: February 23, 2012, 09:28:22 pm by Jerry »
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Re: Knife laws in NH and an angry rant.
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 11:28:16 pm »

Had this happened to me I would have asked him to show me his badge and then I would have reported him. Did he even cite a law?
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