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Topic: NH: Majority white - This explain why crime is so low? (Read 14400 times)
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joeyforpresident
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So one must ask in a totally intellectual honest -- albeit politically incorrect -- way: due to NH being so "white," does this explain why the state has one of the lowest crime rates?
Discuss.
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Josie
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Poverty is connected to crime. NH is hellaciously expensive. Do the math.
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"Hagrid"
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Poverty is connected to crime. NH is hellaciously expensive. Do the math.
No, that doesn't add up If it's SO expensive, then the number of 'poor' people (relatively) would be high, overall, and the crime rate should be higher, since the others aka 'rich' targets would abound. Even if the 'poor' couldn't live here in NH, they'd come for the easy pickings of others. |
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[Linda Richman Coffee Talk impersonation]
So one must ask in a totally intellectual honest -- albeit politically incorrect -- way: due to NH being so "white," does this explain why the state has one of the lowest crime rates?
Discuss.
Keep your racism to yourself Joey. You took a step forward with your rejection of the conspiracy crowd, now you're taking two steps back. Do you actually KNOW any black people? They are good people with a few bad apples just like any other group. NH has low crime due to gun freedom. Blacks and hispanics are unfairly targeted by racist cops, and that's why they are disproportionately arrested. |
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Josie
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No, that doesn't add up If it's SO expensive, then the number of 'poor' people (relatively) would be high, overall, and the crime rate should be higher, since the others aka 'rich' targets would abound. Even if the 'poor' couldn't live here in NH, they'd come for the easy pickings of others.
That doesn't make sense, as high real estate prices encourage the poor to move it on down the road, and crime-ridden neighborhoods exist because of the propensity of criminals to generally prey on their NEAR neighbors. Crimes of convenience. Your statement is inherently flawed, as it suggests that gated communities would be the most crime-raddled of all, all those fat cats in one place. That's not how it works. -Josie |
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"Hagrid"
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That doesn't make sense, as high real estate prices encourage the poor to move it on down the road, and crime-ridden neighborhoods exist because of the propensity of criminals to generally prey on their NEAR neighbors. Crimes of convenience.
So by your logic, when only the rich can afford to live there, crime is lower? I think not. Poor people can't just steal from other poor people (yes, they do, but not to the sole exclusion of others) Your statement is inherently flawed, as it suggests that gated communities would be the most crime-raddled of all, all those fat cats in one place. That's not how it works.
Actually, stats seem to show that gating a community doesn't really reduce the crime rate, yet you've increased the level of security (the gate) so it _should_ reduce the rate. The fact that it doesn't means that the crime rate is really increased in one direction (density of rich people to rob) while reduced in another (difficulty of access and increased security), yielding a net zero change. |
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purewater4u.com
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California: People cannot carry guns = High Crime
New York City: People cannot carry guns = High Crime
Washington DC: People cannot carry guns = High Crime
Nevada: My wife and I BOTH carry guns. Yes we OPEN CARRY! Nobody bothers us. We both have a Sig P232 .380 caliber, loaded and chambered.
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California: People cannot carry guns = High Crime
New York City: People cannot carry guns = High Crime
Washington DC: People cannot carry guns = High Crime
Nevada: My wife and I BOTH carry guns. Yes we OPEN CARRY! Nobody bothers us. We both have a Sig P232 .380 caliber, loaded and chambered.
NV is rated as the highest crime state in America. |
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1DayAtATime
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Poverty is connected to crime. NH is hellaciously expensive. Do the math.
Josie
Poverty may be connect to crime. Race may be connected to crime. Anything may be connected to crime. Take Berlin, NH for example. This is a very poor city (by American standards, although rich by world standards) and yet has a low crime rate. Joey, the white majority of NH or of all states cept HI doesn't not make them safe(r). Look at HI, even though it is the only state in America where white people are not the majority of people, it's crime rate is below average. If you expand that in some crazy way, you could say that whites are dangerous criminals; clearly, that is a stereotype. NH has low crime because a combination of features. It has high economic freedom which has encouraged higher income levels and reduce crime, high personal freedoms which have allowed a small gun culture to grow, few cops, low taxes, a highly educated group of citizens, a high pot use rate, few highly urban areas run by mayors that create a culture of crime via massive welfare and entitlement programs, and so on. Whatever NH has, it is working but would work a lot better if there was more freedom in NH! |
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purewater4u.com
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California: People cannot carry guns = High Crime
New York City: People cannot carry guns = High Crime
Washington DC: People cannot carry guns = High Crime
Nevada: My wife and I BOTH carry guns. Yes we OPEN CARRY! Nobody bothers us. We both have a Sig P232 .380 caliber, loaded and chambered.
NV is rated as the highest crime state in America. Here in Las Vegas, the crime is mainly in the city of 'North Las Vegas' where it is against the law to carry a gun. |
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joeyforpresident
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I agree totally with what Ian said.
Not my intent to be intentionally racist. I wouldn't have even factored in the gun law issue had it not been for Ian.
So I stand corrected.
(and yes, I know - and have dated - black people before)
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Johnny Liberty
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Strom Thurmond had a black child and was a racist. Some black people are racist against other black people (see recent cop killing in NYC-black cops shoot unarmed black man 50 times).
Sorry Joey, dating a black woman (or man) does not make you a non racist. Being an African-American does not, necessarily, make you a non racist, against either "blacks" or others. Racism is part and parcel of American history and culture. White supremacy is the undercurrent and contradiction of the universal implications of the "American experiment".
I'll be trying to bring 4000 African-Americans to NH as part of the Free State Project soon (Afrotopia-an intentional, predominately black company town). We will have guns, too. So, Joey, get ready. NH ain't gonna be all white too much longer.
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« Last Edit: December 22, 2006, 03:45:56 am by Johnny Liberty »
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I'll be trying to bring 4000 African-Americans to NH as part of the Free State Project soon (Afrotopia-an intentional, predominately black company town). We will have guns, too. So, Joey, get ready. NH ain't gonna be all white too much longer.
If you're for freedom and liberty, we're glad to have you! |
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lloydbob1
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Poverty is connected to crime. NH is hellaciously expensive. Do the math.
Josie
Poverty may be connect to crime. Race may be connected to crime. Anything may be connected to crime. Take Berlin, NH for example. This is a very poor city (by American standards, although rich by world standards) and yet has a low crime rate. Joey, the white majority of NH or of all states cept HI doesn't not make them safe(r). Look at HI, even though it is the only state in America where white people are not the majority of people, it's crime rate is below average. If you expand that in some crazy way, you could say that whites are dangerous criminals; clearly, that is a stereotype. NH has low crime because a combination of features. It has high economic freedom which has encouraged higher income levels and reduce crime, high personal freedoms which have allowed a small gun culture to grow, few cops, low taxes, a highly educated group of citizens, a high pot use rate, few highly urban areas run by mayors that create a culture of crime via massive welfare and entitlement programs, and so on. Whatever NH has, it is working but would work a lot better if there was more freedom in NH! You seem to be implying that pot users are too lazy to commit crimes  Seriously. The city I no longer live in has a large Black Community, 3 generations of a generous wellfare system, one of the highest rates of teenage births and, of course, single mothers. The Damn near, unanimous acceptance of teenage births in the urban Black culture supported by the wellfare system is the reason for the high crime rates in northeast cities. |
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TEBON
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Poverty is connected to crime. NH is hellaciously expensive. Do the math.
Josie
c'mon Josie that's a blanket statement, again. You want to talk about living in poverty. . . I know PLENTY of people in NH (Hampton Beach, Seabrook, Portsmouth) that aren't rich, they're not even near rich. . .they can't afford Christmas presents, they can't afford anything really. My best friends live month to month, and that just WOULD NOT be possible if they lived in Massachusetts, hence, they left. Perhaps you're speaking of people that OWN land. . . having to pay property tax. . . but I'd personally say that those people aren't in poverty. . . they own land, they have something. Does it mean they're not committing crimes, sure they are. . . selling drugs, stealing cable. . . sure. . . but they're not robbing people and knocking over convenience stores .. . they make their way the only way they know how (thats just a little bit more than the law will allow) I read your posts, and you're obviously very anxious about your white devil neighbors. When I move up to NH josie, I want to be the first one at your door with a loaf of Oatmeal Molasses bread and a bottle of wine. . . cause that's MY culture. . . and I'm whiter than snow.  |
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