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Topic: Prospects of non US-citizens joining? (Read 7188 times)
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wille
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Hi.
It has probably been touched on before, but what are the chances of non US-citizens being able to join and move to NH?
Personally, I am a Swedish citizen, I left socialist Sweden for the UK a couple of years back, the UK is slightly better, but far from free, so I am starting to believe that NH is really the only chance for liberty in my lifetime.
So what are the chances of non US-citizens being able to come to NH? I know there is a Visa process involved, but are there any free staters that a) have a business that could sponsor a visa and b) would be interested in doing so?
Personally, I work in IT, mainly with software development and architecture as an independent contractor. I'd say I am quite good at what I do and would probably be able to qualify for the skilled worker type visas.
Any thoughts and ideas would be immensely welcome..
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Simon Jester
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I think your chances are pretty good. You have four options here, more or less: 1) You can do the work visa. This one I would not rely on, however, as businesses have to fill it out and have to show that the US lacks the kind of labor they need. Most of these visas go towards Indians and the like, and they get used up quickly. 2) You could apply for a student visa for here and then just stay on. Of course, you'd have to go back to school and pay this time around. I"m not sure how helpful that would be for you, depending on your age, but that's how several of my friends' parents came to live here. 3) You could find someone here to marry and do the spouse/fiance visas, but that's obviously a bit far-fetched. 4) The diversity visa. This is the most likely option and I would go with it, though I think the time to apply for 2006 has already run out. You can google Diversity Visa and make sure you look at the official US Immigration Services and Customs website. It has all you need to know about doing it. Basically, as long as your country hasn't had more than 50,000 people immigrate to the US in the past year (I think), you can apply and they draw names based on regions at random. Since I don't think Sweden has been sending over that many people, your chances are best with this one  Good luck! |
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wille
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The diversity visa thing runs out today actually. And I have applied for that one back in october, so I guess I will know sometime early this summer.
I think given the amount of applicants in recent years, the statistical chance is somewhere in the region of 1,2%, which isn't that brilliant..
That is unless they actually give preference to countries on some basis..
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Simon Jester
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The diversity visa thing runs out today actually. And I have applied for that one back in october Oh, good. Yea, if anything, the US really needs to change how this whole visa thing functions. It's ridiculous how difficult it's become to get into this country. Apparently if you don't have the good sense to be born here, then too bad for you...and now some people are saying that even if you are born here, it doesn't mean you should be a citizen.  |
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It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
William Ernest Henley
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wille
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Oh, good. Yea, if anything, the US really needs to change how this whole visa thing functions. It's ridiculous how difficult it's become to get into this country. Apparently if you don't have the good sense to be born here, then too bad for you...and now some people are saying that even if you are born here, it doesn't mean you should be a citizen. Yeah, you could help but wonder whatever happened to "give us your poor, your tired and your hungry". The only surefire way to gain permanent residence in the US these days is to have more than $1 million to invest. If you have that, you are probably not poor or hungry at the very least.. |
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Ward Griffiths
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Yeah, you could help but wonder whatever happened to "give us your poor, your tired and your hungry".
The only surefire way to gain permanent residence in the US these days is to have more than $1 million to invest. If you have that, you are probably not poor or hungry at the very least..
As a very wise man once wrote, "A man who loses a million bucks rarely misses a meal. It's the poor guy who's shy a half slug who has to tighten his belt." |
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Russell Kanning
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The diversity visa thing runs out today actually. And I have applied for that one back in october Oh, good. Yea, if anything, the US really needs to change how this whole visa thing functions. It's ridiculous how difficult it's become to get into this country. Apparently if you don't have the good sense to be born here, then too bad for you...and now some people are saying that even if you are born here, it doesn't mean you should be a citizen. It use to drive me crazy during college when mexicans were everywhere and my friends from Germany, Italy etc ..... had to fill out paperwork and hope ..... just to keep going to school here in america.  I don't want any borders. |
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Simon Jester
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you could help but wonder whatever happened to "give us your poor, your tired and your hungry". The poor, tired and hungry became the wealthy, energetic and fat...and decided that poor, tired, starving immigrants were an eyesore and wanted to get rid of them. Like I say to any anti-immigration person, if you don't want immigration, then send yourself back first. I don't want any borders. Oh, I don't mind borders...I think it's awesome to be able to stand with one foot in one country and one foot in another  ...I just dislike the government deciding who can and cannot cross them, and for what reasons |
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It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
William Ernest Henley
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Im from sweden to and im very intrested in moving to NH when i have graduate from my college studies and hoping of getting a work visa.
If i dont get a work visa is it possible to just move and stay and get a job?
The thing is that i would like to work with the thing i gonna get educated in and i think it will be a bachelor degree in mechanical engineering. Is it possible to get that kind of job if your a illegal immigrant?
Last question is can i get naturalized i have lived there without a greencard?
A realy want to get US citizenship and get rid of my swedish and i also need it to be able to wote.
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Russell Kanning
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Tough questions I only know how to do things outside the system. I don't know what hoops the government makes movers jump through. It is hard to find "jobs" that don't expect government paperwork. If you could come here and get around the system, you can join those of us that are trying to tear it down. |
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freedominnh
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Unfortunately, the answer to all of your questions are no. You have to resort to finding some American lass willing to marry you. American lasses generally have no need to marry men, let alone men looking for greencards. The majority of work is being outsourced to India. If you are still an undergraduate you may be able to apply for a J1 visa which would get you here for six months to work or travel.
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freedominnh
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Unfortunately a sponsorship involves a patriot act investigation of the sponsor.
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« Last Edit: February 07, 2006, 11:38:27 am by freedominnh »
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Maarten
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2) You could apply for a student visa for here and then just stay on.
Of course, you'd have to go back to school and pay this time around. I"m not sure how helpful that would be for you, depending on your age, but that's how several of my friends' parents came to live here.
How do you just stay on afterwards? I thought the student visa was only for a specific amount of time? Or is it easy to keep extending it on some grounds that make it possible to eventually apply for citizenship? I pretty much have the same problem as the Opening Poster. From the research I've done so far my best bet is probably the Diversity Visa Lottery, and a close second the Employment Visa. When I am done with my Master's I will fall into the second category, which probably improves your chances quite a lot, but I'd still need to find someone willing to hire me... |
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1DayAtATime
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What about being a foreign language teacher? Y’all folks from Europe all know 3 or more languages, right? Those are highly sought after by governments, schools, and companies. Work visas for this would be completely legitimate.
If nothing else, once we get a couple thousand FSP members in NH, someone could start such a company to educate homeschoolers. Anyone that is a FSP member, currently lives outside of America, and knows English plus two or more other languages could work for the company. I guess it would be part-time work, though.
Any problems?
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Maarten
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Which reminds me, if you get an employment visa you are then a permanent resident (as far as I know), but what would happen if you quit that job or get fired? Would you lose your permanent resident status in that case, or could you simply take another job and keep the PR status? This is important in the respect that you need to be in the US for at least 5 years before you can start the naturalization process, which is what I want to do eventually. The problem is that it's quite difficult to get a job when you're not even in the country. This is probably much easier if you already live there, but I do not know how the Visa system works at a time like that, if it allows you to switch jobs once you get there without any negative consequences. I would prefer not to be stuck in the same job for at least 5 years, if at all possible, especially if not my chosen field of work. Hope this makes sense Ah, and I only speak dutch and english, really. I had 6 languages in high school, but I wasn't really interested in most of them, so my french and german and latin are pretty bad at the moment. I mean, I can read german decently, and french a little bit, but that about sums it up. I never saw the point in learning those, I thought english was much easier and more useful to learn well. |
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