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Compulsory Attendance
« on: October 20, 2005, 02:18:21 pm »

I've always seen compulsory school-attendance as a the worst denial of liberty by the US government; even the draft at least only applies to adults, however compulsory attendance specifically targets children who are both vulnerable and impressionalbe-- which is the REASON they are targeted, since children lack the power, know-how and ability to fight back (which is also the reason that mainly only the youngest adults are drafted).

As such, compulsory-attendance was clearly the hallmark of statism around the United States, taking place soon after the Civil War.
While it was initiated in the state of Massachussets shortly prior, such was not accepted until long after. From
http://www.naturalchild.com/guest/john_gatto.html:

"Our form of compulsory schooling is an invention of the state of Massachusetts around 1850. It was resisted - sometimes with guns - by an estimated eighty per cent of the Massachusetts population, the last outpost in Barnstable on Cape Cod not surrendering its children until the 1880's when the area was seized by militia and children marched to school under guard."

It stands to reason, that compulsory school-attendance-- particularly the mass-indoctrination method initiated under Horace Mann in the 1890's-- was the "creeping doom" of individual freedom, which succeeded the Civil War destruction of STATE freedom; once the proverbial "noose" of statism was secured at Appomattox, it was only a matter of time before it "tightened."

Soon afterward, the US Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of compulsory attendance-- much as it upheld the constitutionality of the draft, i.e. using collectivist and statist logic.

Compulsory school-attendance is the mainstay by which public schools are maintained, via providing a captive audience to fund it. Without the such laws-- and the herd-mentality acceptance thereof-- few parents would vote to continue financing of a system which provides less benefit than a private one of equal cost.

However, without state soveriegnty, the people are at the mercy of the US Supreme Court (or its lesser minions)-- even up to being conscripted to fight in illegal foreign wars.

And for the record: many states-- such as Missouri-- do NOT allow home-schooling.

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2005, 10:40:52 pm »

There is nothing on earth, intended for innocent people, so horrible as a school. It is in some respects more cruel than a prison. In a prison for example, you are not forced to read books written by the warders and the governor.’ – George Bernard Shaw.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2005, 12:20:52 am »

There is nothing on earth, intended for innocent people, so horrible as a school. It is in some respects more cruel than a prison. In a prison for example, you are not forced to read books written by the warders and the governor.’ – George Bernard Shaw.

Great quote.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2005, 03:01:55 am »

Yes-- and at least prisons are only supposed to be for those who commit crimes first.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2005, 09:16:01 am »

Yes-- and at least prisons are only supposed to be for those who commit crimes first.
While the founders of the US weren't mostly strong bible-thumpers, many of the founders of the public schools were.  And therefore all of those kids are guilty of Original Sin.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2005, 01:32:02 pm »

Actually, Original Sin is temptation to evil-- like statism, which is original evil, i.e. communal existence and individual subjugation via claim of necessity vs. individual benefit-- however necessity is ever the plea of the tyrant.
Even today, Dick Cheney praised the fallen soldiers, under the claim that "they believed in something greater than themselves."

Schools are simply state indoctrination-camps for this type of sentiments; otherwise, they'd be free-capitalist learning centers, where they'd profit according to how the individual benefitted from attending.

Abraham Maslow, the famous psychologist who first created individual self-actualization as the pinnacle of human development, also stated in following that "there is no such thing as a well-adjusted slave."

As such, people can't be forced to actualize their true potential-- which is the optimization of Free Will.

Anything which suppresses this, IS original sin.
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