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lloydbob1
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A calender showing Porcs engaged in their everyday careers, working at their jobs, homeschooling, etc. would go a long ways to show that, for the most part, were are normal, functioning people, and would be a more positive, though, less enticing venture. These would, probably, only sell within the organization, but, if only a fraction of us bought them it might realize a profit. I'm guessing the image of jason standing behind a podium at Yale would be more impressive than me standing on a ladder, swinging a paintbrush....... wait a minute......I did see Jason behind a podium at Yale....looked like a kid snuck in and was playing teacher. my apologies to Jason, for, once again, taking advantage of his youthful appearance, for a little humor. Lloyd
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BlueLu
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I think Lloyd is on the right track. I like calendar girls and all, but what would really motivate me, and I think other Porcs, on a daily basis to get to NH as soon as possible, is images of Porcs who have made it to NH and are active. Think: Jim, Karl, Shelley, Kat, the Michaels, etc. testifying before legislative committees, handing out leaflets, protesting with signs on pickets, getting arrested in a bookstore  , working their woodlots, shooting at the range, building an exotic house (geodesic dome, etc.). Don Gorman speaking from the podium in the House chamber would be a good one. Even a beautiful nature scene. Oh, and who is the guy that has the computer support business near Dover? A picture that tells the story of a successful business started after a Porc moves should be a great motivator too. This is the stuff that reminds the calendar user of what (s)he is missing and why (s)he needs to hurry up and get to New Hampshire. A calendar girl, is playing on fantasy, and we all know it, even as we are fantasizing. The pictures should be of things that we can actually do, and should really be gearing up to do, once we make the move.
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The Naked Porcupine
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On the one hand, I can accept the "trivialization" argument as valid. It is quite possible that some people might not take us as seriously if we were to put out a calendar with nudity in it.
On the other hand, a calendar of FSPers "hard at work", and emphasizing how "normal we really are"... *yawn*... would generate as much publicity as a tree falling in a forest where no one is around to hear.
Unfortunately, "out of the ordinary" and "shocking" creates a buzz, while "ordinary" and "the expected" are virtually invisible.
There are trade-offs everywhere. I'm just suggesting that the publicity of the calendar idea might be worth it.
Greg
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JonM
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What about nekkid people holding rare and exotic guns? A whole new market segment is opened up!
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The Naked Porcupine
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Actually, that's kindof what I had in mind... here are some of my ideas:
1. A photo of someone with a pair of 19th Century Colts holstered on either hip, and a finely engraved breech-loading shotgun in their hands.
2. Someone with a joint in their hands, with a policeman walking by giving him a friendly wave and a smile.
3. Someone with "indian war paint" on, with a box of "Tea" on his shoulder, tossing it over the side of a ship.
4. A pair of "first year college students" at a chalk board. One is writing out a complex chemical equation, and the other is trying to figure out 4x5, and scratching his head. The first is, of course, homeschooled, while the latter is public schooled.
Anyway, I'm sure we could brainstorm some more.
Greg
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Elwar
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I think this is all just a an elaborate ploy to see Amanda naked.  On the serious side...I figured someone would bring up the Ladies of Liberty calander which was done by females of the North Carolina Libertarian Party to raise money for some of their campaigns. http://www.rachelmills.com/calendar.htmlIt was tastefully done and raised a decent amount of money.
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SteveA
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Actually, that's kindof what I had in mind... here are some of my ideas:
1. A photo of someone with a pair of 19th Century Colts holstered on either hip, and a finely engraved breech-loading shotgun in their hands.
2. Someone with a joint in their hands, with a policeman walking by giving him a friendly wave and a smile.
3. Someone with "indian war paint" on, with a box of "Tea" on his shoulder, tossing it over the side of a ship.
4. A pair of "first year college students" at a chalk board. One is writing out a complex chemical equation, and the other is trying to figure out 4x5, and scratching his head. The first is, of course, homeschooled, while the latter is public schooled.
Anyway, I'm sure we could brainstorm some more.
Greg
Fun ideas  I think this is all just a an elaborate ploy to see Amanda naked. We've got to hit 20K first.
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« Last Edit: August 19, 2004, 04:40:50 pm by SteveA »
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"Fruitless, born a thousand times, lies barren. Unguided inspiration, yields random motion, circumscribed in destination, going nowhere. Guidance uninspired, always true in facing, stands immobile. But fixed upon that destination firmly and with inspiration lofted; beget your dreams."
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Reaper
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I think this is all just a an elaborate ploy to see Amanda naked. We've got to hit 20K first. So when we hit 20k we get to see Amanda naked? I didn't know that was part of the deal! 
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Reaper Proud member of the FSP's lunatic fringe!
"If we turn from battle because there is little hope of victory, where then would valor be? Let it ever be the goal that stirs us, not the odds."
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The Naked Porcupine
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Elwar said: On the serious side...I figured someone would bring up the Ladies of Liberty calander which was done by females of the North Carolina Libertarian Party to raise money for some of their campaigns. http://www.rachelmills.com/calendar.htmlIt was tastefully done and raised a decent amount of money. See? There's a libertarian precedent for it! That should help legitimize the concept. I think this is all just a an elaborate ploy to see Amanda naked. We've got to hit 20K first. So when we hit 20k we get to see Amanda naked? I didn't know that was part of the deal! Hmmm... might be time to convert my support from that of a "Friend of the FSP" to a signed-SOI-member. :-) Greg
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Blefuscu
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Well, to be fair, we'd need a male nudes calendar too  I agree. Who wants to look at naked women, anyway? So were *you* planning on posing in it? Uh uh, not me, Kat. But I'd buy one of the male nude calendars... just to help the cause, of course, you understand 
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Amanda
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I think this is all just a an elaborate ploy to see Amanda naked. We've got to hit 20K first. So when we hit 20k we get to see Amanda naked? I didn't know that was part of the deal!  LOL... would that actually be motivating?
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"The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem of limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small children and great nations." -- David D Friedman, The Machinery of Freedom
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Amanda
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SeiCair, if you're serious, then find the models, get a photographer, and produce the calendar. Just make sure it is tasteful.
And anything using the FSP name/logo has to go through Evan or me before released to the public.
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"The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem of limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small children and great nations." -- David D Friedman, The Machinery of Freedom
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The Naked Porcupine
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SeiCair, if you're serious, then find the models, get a photographer, and produce the calendar. Just make sure it is tasteful.
And anything using the FSP name/logo has to go through Evan or me before released to the public.
I was about 75% sure that this is the response I'd get. I'll see what I can come up with. Rest assured that whatever I'd do will be artistic and tasteful. SeiCair
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maverickthree
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I've noticed through the years that many groups that fundraise sometimes opt to do a nude(or partially nude calendar to be more accurate!  ) calendar. Anyone for a Women or Men of the FSP calendar?
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lordpoee
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Perhaps they would be more inclined to do a "Bikini Shoot" or "Swimsuit"
"Women of the Free State" and "Men of the Free State"
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