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Re: Minnesota boy charged for writing a poem
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2006, 01:15:31 pm »

yes that is what i got my name from ur pretty good and no i didn't have any spaceing. its a crappy poem so yeah anyways um..yaeh
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2006, 01:23:11 pm »

i have many many other poems not really i have i think finally over 100 poems i don't write often but yeah it wasn't that bad all that happen was i had to do 25 hours of community serivce and 3 months of probation which wasn't that bad sicnde i didn't have to call my p.o all the time and i only did 2 hours of community serivce.
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Re: Minnesota boy charged for writing a poem
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2006, 05:25:00 am »

Hey, priest666vash, that's really cool you found us.  Welcome!  It's just not right they punished you at all.  Isn't there something called the first amendment?  Isn't this supposed to be a free country?  So much for that, huh?  They try to claim you committed a crime for writing a poem!  You didn't commit any crime.  You're the good guy in this tale, and the school thugs were just plain wrong.  You might want to take a look around the rest of the Free State Project forum and see if you like what you read.

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Re: Minnesota boy charged for writing a poem
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2006, 01:50:52 am »

Not right that they punished him? yeah...its definitely a bad idea to look into things when people right notes/poems about killing people...hmm. cause yeah, no one's ever followed through on what they "creatively express" in writing. i'd have to say i'm a little worried that this many people think it's wrong to punish someone for writing about killing people.  if i found some poem written by a kid at my school like that, i'd be scared as hell.
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Re: Minnesota boy charged for writing a poem
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2006, 02:02:17 am »

Would you rather the person expressed themself by acting violently, or by putting words on paper?  Personally, I would rather see the latter, and hopefully whatever is causing the frustration can be dealt with peacefully.  Frankly, if you think that people should be punished for expressing thoughts and emotions, you're on the wrong forum.  If people are not allowed to peacefully express their frustrations, then some may simply resort to violence as a primary means of expression.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2006, 07:47:04 am »

If he had named names in his poetry (describing exactly who he had wanted to kill, and in what manner) I think then his school psychologist might have a session or two with him to see if the poem constitiuted an actual threat.  Whereas what really happened was some panicky teacher ran to the principal (or more likely assistant vice principal) and they got the FBI to detain the kid. Don't you think they overreacted just a bit?
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2006, 09:55:16 am »

We need to get some dollars together and help this kid appeal:

The poem was a form of expressive writing.
It was not SENT to eny person.
It was FOUND.

It is NOT a threat in any since of the word.

Certainly the poem is a cry for help froma teenager going through EXACTLY what I went through, up until my senior year I often fantizised about walking through my school with a shotgun blasting every jock that ever picked on me and all the girls seeing what a hero I was.

Abnormal? Of course not, In my mind I put myself into a place where I was more confident: Never acted on it.

Hate to say it: But there are millions of kids who do exactly the same thing: They are 100% Normal.

However they STILL need GUIDANCE, not JAIL.

How much does a good appeal lawyer go for? Lets get somebody to go talk to this kid so he is aware he has not commited a crime, he has only been made to think he has.
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2009, 07:27:37 pm »

Not right that they punished him? yeah...its definitely a bad idea to look into things when people right notes/poems about killing people...hmm. cause yeah, no one's ever followed through on what they "creatively express" in writing. i'd have to say i'm a little worried that this many people think it's wrong to punish someone for writing about killing people.  if i found some poem written by a kid at my school like that, i'd be scared as hell.
Interesting.  The most likely explanation for your feelings is that you are a moron.
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2009, 07:31:20 pm »

If he had named names in his poetry (describing exactly who he had wanted to kill, and in what manner) I think then his school psychologist might have a session or two with him to see if the poem constitiuted an actual threat.  Whereas what really happened was some panicky teacher ran to the principal (or more likely assistant vice principal) and they got the FBI to detain the kid. Don't you think they overreacted just a bit?
Any reaction was an overreaction.  The fact that this man priest666vash was in this horrific concentration camp at all is a shame and a crime.  His sick captors deserve any threats they receive.
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Re: Minnesota boy charged for writing a poem
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2009, 08:38:40 am »

Holy Shit, could you have found an older thread to try to revive?

Zombie thread is ISO brains.
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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2009, 08:44:40 pm »

LOL, I recently revived an ages-old thread myself but only to thank someone.
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Re: Minnesota boy charged for writing a poem
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2009, 10:30:05 am »

If that is "disorderly conduct", then Edgar Allen Poe and Stephen King are felons!

The insanity known as "public school" continues to amaze and astound me. It was awful when I went through it, and everything I see says it has gotten so very much worse since.

At least I had the luck to have three Heinline-esque "Veterans" as highschool teachers. If I'd had to put up with the kind of touchy-feely assholes that I had in grammar school I honestly think I would not have survived the experience.

But those veterans are gone, the steady march toward the Idiocracy continues.
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« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2009, 12:57:30 pm »

Wow, you'd think he'd climbed up on a rooftop and sounded a barbaric yawp or something.

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« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2009, 11:38:33 pm »

Of course, though this was an old thread, ages old in fact, it does show that forums are good for never allowing injustices to be forgotten.
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2014, 08:12:34 am »

I hate my brother Andrew deutsch for think and was going to do he got off way to easy
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