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jeanius
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« Last Edit: August 11, 2006, 08:51:15 am by Jean »
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In a couple of postings, Jean, you mentioned something about people doing what they can, with what they know how to do, to help spread the message about liberty and freedom, about L/libertarianism and about the FSP. I wholeheartedly agree with this thought. Some people have more clout than others, are more well known, and they talk with other more well known people about their thoughts and ideas on these topics. Most of us, however, are 'ordinary' every day citizens who work and take care of home and family. Some of us don't think we have the ability to affect much change, since we don't travel about with the movers and shakers of the world; I think we short-change ourselves. I believe that a lot of us can get out the word about liberty and freedom, about the need we have to be informed and free, within things that we already do. We all don't have to be celebrities or politicians to feel strongly about something and get that feeling out in the open. It may take longer if we have to do it on a smaller scale than if we could have a media blitz, but we can definitely do it.   Sandra
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When one man says, "No, I won't," Rome begins to fear. - Dalton Trumbo
In proportion as you give the state power to do things for you, you give it power to do things to you. - Albert Jay Nock
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Hi Ladies, Not really sure what the answer is to get more gal's involved in what we are doing. Do know we have a couple rather new gals who have signed onto our local group it NH. They have been drop dead dynamite it helping promote freedom here in the Seacoast. Hey, get notes almost weekly from Lass's interested, but they seem a bit hesitate, but just keep encouraging them to join us. Hey, being an old barn dog, I have met many ladies in my life, but can honestly say, those I have met in this project are the finest Ladies I have ever met!  Hope whatever you decide to do, that your effort is sucessful, cause we need everyones help!
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Please join us! http://www.nhliberty.org/ New Hampshire Liberty Alliance. " A leader knows that if he is generous with his time, his people will be generous with their effort." Plug>>>>Realtor Lovejoy Real Estate!
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Some people have more clout than others, are more well known, and they talk with other more well known people about their thoughts and ideas on these topics. Most of us, however, are 'ordinary' every day citizens who work and take care of home and family. Some of us don't think we have the ability to affect much change, since we don't travel about with the movers and shakers of the world; I think we short-change ourselves. I believe that a lot of us can get out the word about liberty and freedom, about the need we have to be informed and free, within things that we already do. I 100% agree with you.  In a sense trying to change the entire world, at least forcefully, isn't a particularly libertarian stance, though I can understand the desire to free people that are asking for help, when you consider that everyone is only a single individual, the measure of how much or how little a person has done should be based upon what a single person is able to do, within their means. Few people will ever command a microphone with 1 million listeners, and a question to ask would be what specifically would you say, given the opportunity, but when you consider that most people spend likely 98%+ of their life living within the system, even a few hours a month trying to make it better has likely an order of magnitude more influence than most. Ideally, we wouldn't even have to try to change others views if more people respected the liberty and independence of others, but such is not the case, and so we need people to take more of a stand against these encroachments but the difference one motivated person can make is large. One problem with democracy is that, just like an insurance policy, the costs and benefits are spread amongst so many people that many tend to freeload and are rewarded by the work of others. There are people out there working hard every day to retain our freedom (don't assume I'm talking about the armed forces  ) that we all enjoy, but without reinforcements it's an uphill battle. Though the best part of it, IMO, is that tyranny tends to self destruct. Just like cancer can only grow as long there's a healthy body to feed it, corruption, theft and destruction all require honest, productive and non-destructive people to maintain it. I believe the day is coming when some of the dead weight will be cut loose and people will be proud to say their Americans again  . Oh, and so that I don't drift too far off topic, being able to show off all our cute libertarian women is nice too!  Have fun
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"Fruitless, born a thousand times, lies barren. Unguided inspiration, yields random motion, circumscribed in destination, going nowhere. Guidance uninspired, always true in facing, stands immobile. But fixed upon that destination firmly and with inspiration lofted; beget your dreams."
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jeanius
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Unplugged/Sandra,
I agree that we shortchange ourselves, or at least don't recognize the good we can and are doing, just as individuals living our lives. In fact, it isn't the well known and movers and shakers who make change, it is the people. A decent description is the movie "A Bugs Life" (and I wonder how libertarian those folks are!). At the end, the ants realized their power. It was all of the ants, standing arm in arm against the grasshoppers that won the war. It's never one person and it's never the focal person. It's all of us. One of the things that really impressed people was that we were moving across the country - for freedom! Granted, moving across the country is a big deal but it wasn't a speech that impressed them it was action. So whether, we move across the country, or speak up at town meetings, or write letters to the editor or elect to use non-government schools, it is our individual actions that make a difference. We shouldn't short change ourselves, not even a little!
Jean
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I like how you think, Jean! :DÂ
I think the little things can make the biggest differences. I don't think that people have to get themselves arrested and/or take expensive trips to D.C. to march, protest, whatever, to get their message out. Some folks do that and, hey, that's great for them - they are doing what they are able to. But it isn't for me. I'd rather 'infiltrate' from the inside...spread the message, through my actions and my daily encounters with people, that most people are not free but they can be and then let the people mull it over for themselves. Some people ask questions later that we can discuss and have dialogue about.Â
I don't like to be hit about the head with something and told to believe it. I will believe something because I want to believe it - because I have come to the realization about it myself after being shown, given the seeds to plant. I think many people are like that, as well. Whatever the method, some people are being reached; many will reject the message of liberty and freedom right off, but some will be more receptive and will think it over before making the decision to be free or not.
I liked your post, SteveA, particularly about how retaining freedom is an uphill battle - it truly feels that way. I would rather die face first trudging up that hill, fighting for freedom, than to live out my days amongst those who are slaves but call themselves free.
Sandra
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When one man says, "No, I won't," Rome begins to fear. - Dalton Trumbo
In proportion as you give the state power to do things for you, you give it power to do things to you. - Albert Jay Nock
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Jean and all,
Here's the first article I have written for my new column, "Daughters of the Revolution" which appears in the magazine, Granite Porcupine. Let me know what you think. (notice I posted it in the Friendly Forum, so any/all criticism will be kind and constructive - lol)
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DAUGHTERS OF THE REVOLUTIONÂ by Jan Jones Stover
I'd like to introduce my column by first offering a brief explanation of its title, Daughters of the Revolution.
We, as American women, are all Daughters of the Revolution. Yes, proven blood line or not, this is our birthright. Lineage intact or unknown, this is our heritage. The extraordinary women of the American Revolution are unquestionably our Founding Mothers and so in turn we are the daughters ... generation after generation ... of the Revolution.
The brave and eloquent women of our history have laid the groundwork for today's outspoken female Patriots and Patriots yet to come. From Abigal Adams and Mercy Otis Warren to Dr. Mary Ruwart and Claire Wolfe, American women have moved through the ages - writing, teaching, advocating and practicing liberty.
Just as our Founding Mothers joined forces and organized movements such as the Daughters of Liberty and Republican Motherhood, women today are still carrying the message of freedom and responsibility. From coast to coast, they are flying the banner of "eternal vigilance" - under different names and in different styles - but none the less, the banner continues to fly high. From our nation's western boundaries, hail such advocates for liberty as Mothers Against the Draft, the Association of Libertarian Feminists, and the Liberty Belles. From the heartland springs Mothers for Liberty and from the east we find the Liberty Ladies.
Women whose activism and accomplishment further the cause of liberty, share the Founding Mothers' call to "protect and defend" our nation's original message of Independence. Whether it be on a national or local scene, women like Sharon Harris, president of Advocates for Self-Government; Elaine Badnarik, mother of Libertarian Presidential Candidate Michael Badnarik and a candidate for Lt. Governor herself, and New Hampshire's Kat Dillon, Free State Project enthusiast, continue to reach out with the essential good news of liberty - and we as Daughters of the Revolution are charged with doing the same.
How well we fulfill that charge, and by what means, is the fodder for this column. I look forward to featuring the enthusiastic words and actions of women from around the country, around the county and around the corner on the pages of the Granite Porcupine and in the column of The Daughters of the Revolution.
copyright Jan Jones Stover 2005
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"The Hand that Rocks the Cradle is the Hand that Rules the World" ~ William Ross Wallace
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Ward Griffiths
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In your next column, you might want to mention Second Amendment Sisters and other groups for the best thing in feminine protection.
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-- Ward Griffiths wdg3rd@comcast.netMen will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. (Denis Diderot)
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Nice, Jan! I like that you will feature words from women from all over the country in your column. I think that presenting writings from women from all areas will make your column feel like it is for any and every woman in the US. Kudos to you for getting out there!  Sandra
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When one man says, "No, I won't," Rome begins to fear. - Dalton Trumbo
In proportion as you give the state power to do things for you, you give it power to do things to you. - Albert Jay Nock
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Sandra,
Glad you liked the idea of getting input from women throughout the U.S. Libertarian women seem to be is such sort supply (whether this is the reality of things or just an inaccurate imagine) I wanted to feature the *goings-on* of women activists from coast to coast to verifying that we are really out there - writing, promoting, working, living the libertarian philosophy.
Jan
BTW, another comment I was happy to receive went as follows: "It's great to show some of the examples we should be following. They (these "Founding Mothers" and "Daughters of the Revolution") have provided a great footprint!"
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jeanius
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Thanks Jan! I particularly like the distinction about how we are all daughters of the revolution regardless of proven blood line.
I keep coming back to the feeling that those of us working for liberty now are pioneers. We're going against the flow of things a bit, speaking up, writing, acting. We are not the mainstream view but I think we are becoming more and more vocal and visible. The more we can encourage and pave the way for more people to stand up and be counted the more likely liberty will be seen in our lifetime.
Jean
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Thanks Jan! I particularly like the distinction about how we are all daughters of the revolution regardless of proven blood line.Â
I keep coming back to the feeling that those of us working for liberty now are pioneers. We're going against the flow of things a bit, speaking up, writing, acting. We are not the mainstream view but I think we are becoming more and more vocal and visible. The more we can encourage and pave the way for more people to stand up and be counted the more likely liberty will be seen in our lifetime.
Jean
Very well written and very true! I sometimes get some confused or incredulous looks from some women when I talk about issues such as personal responsibility, not being forced by anyone or any institution to do that which we do not want to do, having less government in our lives and not relying on the federal government for our happiness and wellbeing. (I try not to come across as 'preachy' when airing my views as I don't want to turn anyone off.  ) It is almost as if they think I am being blasphemous in saying that we are responsible for our own happiness and the direction our lives take, and not expecting the government to take care of us. I do have a female friend/coworker who seems to agree with the libertarian mind-set and has some interesting opinions of her own. It is refreshing to have another woman to have discussions with about important issues. I wish that conversations such as those that she and I have were more commonplace among other women. We are definitely "going against the flow" and are not the "mainstream view"! And I agree that we are becoming seen and heard more. I feel like we are excavators of a sort, digging down through the erroneous thoughts and misconceptions that have been generally accepted regarding our role in society and what government is for, and bringing up the past - the country that was founded with liberty and freedom. We need to go back and get what we lost so that we can move forward. Got my spoon so I can dig in...  Sandra
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When one man says, "No, I won't," Rome begins to fear. - Dalton Trumbo
In proportion as you give the state power to do things for you, you give it power to do things to you. - Albert Jay Nock
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I keep coming back to the feeling that those of us working for liberty now are pioneers. Jean, Sandra and all, I have heard this pioneer comparison used on several occasions and I like it. I often update my 87 year old mother on many of the posts here, and she has commented to me that the women (men/families) willing to make the move to NH are like our nation's own modern day pioneers. This concept has inspired me to consider using the image of the Madonna of the Trail as my logo - for both my "Daughters of the Revolution" articles and my "Mothers for Liberty" website (which my son is currently helping me design). BTW, I am originally from Vandalia, Illinois, where one of the many Madonna of the Trail statues is located - which makes the idea personally appealing as well. What do you ladies think? For more information on the Madonna of the Trail statue and history visit: http://www.route40.net/history/madonnas/index.shtmlJan
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"The Hand that Rocks the Cradle is the Hand that Rules the World" ~ William Ross Wallace
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Just another hello, from another libertarian woman who's already moved to the Free State ;-)
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Ladies,
Quite some time ago in several other forums/discussion groups, I brought up the idea of one day holding a National Libertarian Women's Conference (location yet to be determined). The idea must have struck a cord with quite a few ladies and has fortunately inspired some positive feedback.
That being said, several of the women who have shown an interest in the idea have been talking about a more regional approach at first ... starting with smaller Libertarian Women's Conferences held throughout the country. Maybe tri-state conferences would be appropriate. For example, I currently live in Illinois and can imagine a successful conference which would include women from Illinois as well as our neighboring states of Missouri and Indiana. (the 3 states have a lot of shared interests) After such valuable networking/coalitions were formed, we could then meld these tri-state conferences into the National Libertarian Women's Conference.
Any thoughts?
Jan
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