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Topic: Reagan voted 'greatest American' (Read 14632 times)
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The Discovery Channel sure made it difficult to find the list on their website. (I wonder why?) I had to use Google to find it. http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/greatestamerican/greatestamerican.htmlHere is the rest of the top 25: 11. Billy Graham 12. Thomas Jefferson 13. Walt Disney 14. Albert Einstein 15. Thomas Edison 16. John F. Kennedy 17. Bob Hope 18. Bill Gates 19. Elanor Roosevelt 20. Lance Armstrong 21. Muhammed Ali 22. Rosa Parks 23. The Wright Brothers 24. Henry Ford 25. Neil Armstrong Thankfully there is an online "Top 5 Jigsaw Puzzle" for those who can't be bothered to read a history book.  |
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"...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..."
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24. Henry Ford
Henry Ford was a Fascist!!! |
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"The liberty of man consists solely in this: that he obeys natural laws because he has himself recognized them as such, and not because they have been externally imposed upon him by any extrinsic will whatever, divine or human, collective or individual." -Mikhail Bakunin
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Green
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Green --- top Americans not top Socialists.
Everyone I listed was an American. Not all were Socialists either. John Brown was a Protestant evangelist and radical abolitionist Socialism as a movement didn't even exist when Thomas Paine or Patrick Henry were around, though Paine probably would have become a Socialist had he lived through the 19th century. |
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"The liberty of man consists solely in this: that he obeys natural laws because he has himself recognized them as such, and not because they have been externally imposed upon him by any extrinsic will whatever, divine or human, collective or individual." -Mikhail Bakunin
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At the risk of agreeing with Green ...
Reagan was awful. Breaking up the airline strike was equivalent, in my mind, to the eminent domain issue today. The question: Does the President have the right to intervene in a dispute between a private company and its employees? The issue was settled by ... you guessed it, deciding what was for the "public benefit." Argh!
And lets not forget his under the counter arms trades. That's one of my biggest pet peeves, as one who believes that ALL government financial dealings should be made part of the public record. How can I hold people accountable if I don't know how they're spending money?
Caleb
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We've made too many compromises already; too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done. - Jean Luc Picard
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Wasn't it an air traffic controller strike? Air traffic controllers are federal employees.
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Audio signature (MP3) "Experience has shown that it is difficult, if not impossible, for a populous state to be run by good laws." --Aristotle, The Politics
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They are not LAWFULLY federal employees.
The Constitution gives the federal government the right to REGULATE interstate commerce ... not HIRE WORKERS FOR interstate commerce.
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We've made too many compromises already; too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done. - Jean Luc Picard
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Does it matter? They are still people. Do they deserve less rights because of who their employer is?
Reagan was also one of the most militaristic presidents in history, intensified the drug war in Central America, and is responsible for funding or supporting numerous rightwing para-military coups throughout Latin America during his term.
Reagan is arguably one of the worst presidents we have ever had. The man was a reactionary to the core. During the 1950s, when he was still a Democrat, he was a union-busting specialist for hire to big businesses.
I hope he burns in hell... figuratively speaking, because I don't believe in hell since I'm an athiest.
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« Last Edit: July 07, 2005, 03:29:22 pm by Green »
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"The liberty of man consists solely in this: that he obeys natural laws because he has himself recognized them as such, and not because they have been externally imposed upon him by any extrinsic will whatever, divine or human, collective or individual." -Mikhail Bakunin
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24. Henry Ford
Henry Ford was a Fascist!!! Oh please! He had to FIGHT patent law for the state to allow him to build cars cheaply. It wasn't untill later after he died that his "foundations" started supporting, communism in Russia. Tracy |
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Tracy Saboe
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Re Regean, Green: that's going a bit far. Regean was way better then Teddy, FDR, Wilson, Johnson, etc.
Tracy
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Does it matter? They are still people. Do they deserve less rights because of who their employer is?
Reagan fired them. Shouldn't "anarchists" support firing federal employees? |
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Audio signature (MP3) "Experience has shown that it is difficult, if not impossible, for a populous state to be run by good laws." --Aristotle, The Politics
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I love how socialists think it's oppression to hire employees, but they're also against discontinuing this "oppressive" relationship.
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Tracy Saboe
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Why do you need to be a war hero to be a "great American."
Since when are pawns in the violent chess games of megalomanic politicians "great."
TRacy
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Green
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I love how socialists think it's oppression to hire employees, but they're also against discontinuing this "oppressive" relationship.
Its the system which is oppressive, not the individual relationship. |
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"The liberty of man consists solely in this: that he obeys natural laws because he has himself recognized them as such, and not because they have been externally imposed upon him by any extrinsic will whatever, divine or human, collective or individual." -Mikhail Bakunin
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Re Regean, Green: that's going a bit far. Regean was way better then Teddy, FDR, Wilson, Johnson, etc.
Tracy
I very strongly disagree with you. Reagan makes Teddy, Wilson, Johnson, and FDR look like liberals in comparison...oh wait, they WERE liberals, haha. Reagan was a reactionary and the inspiration for most of today's neo-conservative movement. He regularily used racially-coded rhetoric to attack domestic social spending while dramatically expanding the military-industrial complex and supporting counter-revolution abroad. Sure, he had a nice smile, but that means nothing. |
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"The liberty of man consists solely in this: that he obeys natural laws because he has himself recognized them as such, and not because they have been externally imposed upon him by any extrinsic will whatever, divine or human, collective or individual." -Mikhail Bakunin
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...and supporting counter-revolution abroad. That's what really bothers you, isn't it? He fought against your beloved totalitarian socialist states, and it makes you hate him... Joe |
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"An armed society is a polite society" - this does not mean that we are polite because we fear each other.
We are not civilized because we are armed; we are armed because we are civilized..
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