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Topic: followthemoney.org & opensecrets.org/ (Read 8511 times)
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matt621
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But every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle. If there be any among us who [disagree], let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. - Thomas Jefferson 1801
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NH: $29,697,308
WY: $4,634,219
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WY>SD>AK>VT>ND>DE>MT>ID>NH>ME
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NH: $29,697,308
WY: $4,634,219
This isn't as bad as it looks, as NH had a US senate race last year and WY did not. Yes, NH tends to have more, but 2002 was an outlier. |
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Government can do only one thing: It can break your legs, hand you a crutch, and say, "See? If not for the government you couldn't walk."
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JasonPSorens
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Finally! State-level campaign finance data. Followthemoney.org apparently does not include any federal races, including US House and US Senate. Some data:
2002
AK - $10.3 mil (avg House candidate: $32231) (100% complete data)
DE - $6.1 mil (avg House candidate: $14827) (80% complete data)
ID - $4.3 mil (avg House candidate: $3463) (95% complete)
ME - $9.3 mil (avg House candidate: $2292 - most to party committees) (60% complete)
MT - $10.3 mil (avg House candidate: $4356) (95% complete)
NH - $29.7 mil (avg House candidate: $4 - almost everything went to party committees) (95% complete)
ND - $6.7 mil (N/A) (10% complete)
SD - $24.9 mil (avg House candidate: $6547) (10% complete)
VT - $4.8 mil (avg House candidate: $1876) (100%)
WY - $4.6 mil (avg House candidate: $4550) (95%)
2000
WY - $1.5 mil (AHC: $4184) (100%)
VT - $5.0 mil (AHC: $2473) (100%)
SD - $3.4 mil (AHC: $7990) (100%)
ND - $5.6 mil (AHC: $678) (100%)
NH - $12.8 mil (AHC: $0) (100%)
MT - $17.3 mil (AHC: $4391) (100%)
ME - $6.1 mil (AHC: $3523) (100%)
ID - $3.2 mil (AHC: $8944) (100%)
DE - $12.7 mil (AHC: $19594) (100%)
AK - $6.1 mil (AHC: $33391) (100%)
Ranking of states by total spending on state races, highest of 2000 and 2002 figures, best to worst:
ID - 4.3
WY - 4.6
VT - 5.0
ND - 6.7
ME - 9.3
AK - 10.3
DE - 12.7
MT - 17.3
SD - 24.9NH - 29.7
Ranking based on averages:
WY - 3.1
ID - 3.8
VT - 4.9
ND - 6.2
ME - 7.7
AK - 8.2
DE - 9.4
MT - 13.8
SD - 14.2
NH - 21.3
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Audio signature (MP3) "Experience has shown that it is difficult, if not impossible, for a populous state to be run by good laws." --Aristotle, The Politics
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jgmaynard
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Troiuble is, those numbers still add in the spending on the governor's race, which FSP members are unlikely to strive for anytime soon. For a better look at what it would take to win state house races, from a financial point of view, I narrowed down the search to just 2002 state house races. These numbers seem to include all races which raised/spent enough to have to report (which in NH, is $500, IIRC) From followthemoney.com: State House 2002 spending Total$ # of Candidates Average $ ND $0 98 $0 * NH $2,800 747 $4 VT $532,648 284 $1,873 ME $882,396 385 $2,288 ID $709,985 205 $3,375 MT $997,526 229 $4,356 WY $532,377 117 $4,550 SD $916,529 140 $6,534 DE $1,275,118 86 $14,793 AK $3,255,365 101 $31,206 * only 10% completed. As we see, financially, state rep races in NH are over 450x more accessable than the next leading state.  That means that if each of the state rep candidates that spent more than $500 only spent $900 or so each, 744 out of 747 state rep races in NH cost less than $500. 99.6% of the state rep races in the Granite state will require less than $500 to achieve spending parity. Doesn't come any easier than that. JM |
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The Light of Alexandria By James Maynard A history of the first 1,000 years of science, and how it changed the ancient world, and our world today. http://www.lightofalexandria.com
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JasonPSorens
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LOL James, I assume you're being ironic.  Look at the party committee contributions for NH - those go to state house and senate candidates. The money is just counted differently in NH; it's not the case that most house races cost zero dollars. |
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Audio signature (MP3) "Experience has shown that it is difficult, if not impossible, for a populous state to be run by good laws." --Aristotle, The Politics
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JasonPSorens
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2002 Non-Gubernatorial State Races: Ranking from Best to Worst
WY - $2.1 mil (95%)
VT - $2.6 mil
ID - $2.7 mil (95%)
DE - $5.7 mil (80%)
AK - $5.9 mil
ND - $6.5 mil (10%)
ME - $8.4 mil (60%)
MT - $10.3 mil (95%)
NH - $15.5 mil (95%)
SD - $24.1 mil (10%)
Same for 2000
WY - $1.5 mil
ND - $2.8 mil
VT - $2.9 mil
ID - $3.2 mil
SD - $3.4 mil
ME - $6.1 mil
AK - $6.1 mil
NH - $6.1 mil
DE - $8.2 mil
MT - $12.6 mil
No matter how you slice it, state elections are much cheaper in WY, VT, and ID than NH, SD, and MT - with the others somewhere in between.
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Audio signature (MP3) "Experience has shown that it is difficult, if not impossible, for a populous state to be run by good laws." --Aristotle, The Politics
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jgmaynard
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Yes, the $4 number was a little tounge-in-cheek. But it does show that the state rep races cost very little in NH, and the vast majority are under the $500 reporting limit. And don't those last numbers you posted, Jason, include US Senate and House races as well? And doesn't every state have party committes, which would need to be added in for every state. The numbers I found are low for all states. But for reported, over the limit, direct donations and spending, for state rep races only, it shows magnitudes of difference. I DO know, being on the political ground in NH, that the most ANY state rep candidates ever do is get 100 signs or so ($400 - Most don't even do that). You don't hear state rep TV or radio commercials, no billboards, no mailings, no rallies, nothin'. Every state rep I've talked to has said that they never spend more than a few hundred dollars. The biggest campaign in this area last year was Chuck Weed, who had a few dozen spray painted wooden signs. The college kids put them up all over Keene, just to hang signs that said "weed". I mean, it's cheap. Really cheap. JM |
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« Last Edit: September 06, 2003, 10:49:40 am by jgmaynard »
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The Light of Alexandria By James Maynard A history of the first 1,000 years of science, and how it changed the ancient world, and our world today. http://www.lightofalexandria.com
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JasonPSorens
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Well, it's weird - the site says that it doesn't include federal races at all, but I believe that some of those party committee contributions do go to federal races. The reason I think that is that when it shows the major donors, the RNC and DNC are usually among them. And I assume that the RNC and DNC would typically only get involved in federal races, such as the 2002 US Senate race in SD, which probably inflated that state's number in that election. I could run some new numbers with both gubernatorial and RNC/DNC expenditures taken out. That would probably tell us what could be raised "in-state" for non-gubernatorial state elections.
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Audio signature (MP3) "Experience has shown that it is difficult, if not impossible, for a populous state to be run by good laws." --Aristotle, The Politics
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. . . (snip)
. . .such as the 2002 US Senate race in SD, which probably inflated that state's number in that election. Here are the old figures from Political Money Line, as posted by Jason Sorens on July 9 th and SD still had an inflated election then too : ND - $4.2 mil (99-00 cycle)
VT - $4.3 mil (99-00)
WY - $4.7 mil (95-96)
AK - $6.1 mil (95-96)
ID - $7.7 mil (97-98)
NH - $8.2 mil (95-96)
DE - $8.7 mil (99-00)
MT - $10.9 mil (99-00)
ME - $11.4 mil (95-96)
SD - $13.8 mil (95-96) |
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. . .the foundations of our national policy should be laid in private morality. If individuals be not influenced by moral principles, it is in vain to look for public virtue --The U.S. Senate's reply to George Washington's first inaugural address
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2002 Non-Gubernatorial State Races: Ranking from Best to Worst
WY - $2.1 mil (95%)
VT - $2.6 mil.... And Senator Aiken and Fred Tuttle of Vermont spent $1 per town in their US Senate campaigns. Of course, they were rare individuals.  |
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Maybe I'm behind the times, but I always understood the NH and VT State House races to be very cheap--at least for the rural districts--because they are part-time "citizen legislatures." The following article seems to confirm that: Why not Run for the NH House in 2000?By Kris Moody and NH Representative Jim Splaine http://users.rcn.com/nh-now/run_for_office.htmIt costs $5.00 to file, and people do that at their town/city halls. Depending on the opposition or lack thereof, a campaign might cost $0 to much more -- but one can be creative with campaign finances and find a way to put on a $500 campaign for $50 by doing some smart things. There is always an opportunity for "free press." So, bottom-line is that just about anyone can "afford" to run for the House and stand a chance. This is one of the advantages of a 400-member "citizens' legislature." The "pay" is $200 for the two-year term, plus mileage, which from Portsmouth as an example (89 miles round trip) is about $27.00 each time. |
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johnadams
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William "Bill" Netishen won his first-ever campaign for the Democratic nomination for State House in his district after receiving 29 write-ins at the primary. Granted, he lost the general election, but this shows it isn't that difficult or expensive to win an opposition primary in NH. Write-in candidate running in House District 73 By BRUNO MATARAZZO Thursday, October 31, 2002 http://www4.fosters.com/election_2002/oct/31/nh_rep1031a.asp Heck, I remember a TV news story a few years back about a mentally-retarded young man who WON a seat in the NH legislature with almost no money. Some people thought it showed what a hick state NH is, but most people seemed to think it showed that citizens can make a difference, because the kid seemed honest and earnest and he really wanted to help mentally and physically handicapped people and show that they can achieve things. |
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« Last Edit: September 07, 2003, 12:47:14 am by johnadams »
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Finally! State-level campaign finance data...Followthemoney.org
Ranking of states by total spending on state races, highest of 2000 and 2002 figures, best to worst:
ID - 4.3
WY - 4.6
VT - 5.0
ND - 6.7
ME - 9.3
AK - 10.3
DE - 12.7
MT - 17.3
SD - 24.9NH - 29.7
Ranking based on averages:
WY - 3.1
ID - 3.8
VT - 4.9
ND - 6.2
ME - 7.7
AK - 8.2
DE - 9.4
MT - 13.8
SD - 14.2
NH - 21.3
Some data! Yes, WY does have the least expensive elections! Yes, NH does have the most expensive elections! WY has the lowest population, the least number of registered voters, the lowest number of voters, the smallest districts, the least expensive elections, and is near the top in almost everything else except jobs (but if you add Ft. Collins it is 3rd or 4th in that too)! What more do we need? What near the best gun laws? WY What near the best pot laws? WY What near the best tax laws? WY What near the best homeschool laws? WY What near the best general regulation laws? WY What near the best zoning laws? WY What near the best weather? WY What near the best libertarian culture? WY What more do we want? What is it I am missing? |
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jgmaynard
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I got the numbers I got above by limiting the data to total declared spending by all stae rep candidates in ach of the state. The other numbers above add US Senate and US House back in... NH only has expensive elections if you are adding in the Governor's and/or US Rep and House in to the eequation. The numbers I listed were the first we have found for ALL declared spending by state rep candidates in 2002, from a neutral, 3rd party. IE., those races porcupines are apt to challenge soon. Plus, not only have I talked to many NH state reps abotu their campaigns, but I have also managed one. I'm telling you, they're cheap. The article quoted above is a great one. I mean.. When a few dozen spray painted signs are the biggest promo campaign in one of NH's largest cities.... And if I were to buy a gun, I would take NH's laws over WY's any day. If I smoked marijuana, I would take NH's arrest rate over WY's. And I'll take NH's taxes over WY's any day. Taxes??!?!? Really?!?? Almost all those subjective statements you made are questionable. Many are nothing more than opinion. C'mon... I expect better than that from you, Keith.... Taxes?!?!? JM |
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The Light of Alexandria By James Maynard A history of the first 1,000 years of science, and how it changed the ancient world, and our world today. http://www.lightofalexandria.com
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