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Question: Do you like the Karma feature?
Yes. - 33 (55.9%)
No, please get rid of it! - 15 (25.4%)
I don't care. - 11 (18.6%)
Total Voters: 54

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Do you like the Karma feature?
« on: August 08, 2003, 07:53:55 am »

The karma feature allows users to place votes regarding their approval of other users.  Under a person's name on his posts, you can see two links, "smite" and "applaud", then you can see the running tally of how many smites and applauds the person has received.  If a person continually irritates you, you can smite him (up to once per day  Wink).  

Besides being fun, this may actually be helpful because it can indicate to new users which members are vocal and/or controversial.  A person with a large number of votes (or especially smites) may not be expressing opinions that are representative of others on the forum.

Please be aware that smiting or applauding someone does nothing other than modify his or her tally.  
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Re:Do you like the Karma feature?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2003, 08:41:18 am »

I think it's fun, but some people are petty, especially in the "Great State Debate." I was smite-free until I posted a very rational, respectful response to a question about Wyoming. Apparently one NH proponent thought I deserved a "smite." Wink
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2003, 08:43:55 am »

I think it would be better if it followed one member's suggestion and only allowed a member one vote per person.  So you could vote +/0/- on a person and their score would be their total votes from everyone.  I think we'd end up with much more positive and only the trolls would stay negative.  
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2003, 09:11:27 am »

I think it's fun, but some people are petty, especially in the "Great State Debate." I was smite-free until I posted a very rational, respectful response to a question about Wyoming. Apparently one NH proponent thought I deserved a "smite." Wink

There is inevitably a certain degree of "noise" in one's karma.  Maybe you were smited just because someone was having a bad day?  The karma only becomes statistically meaningful when the sample is higher.  I'd peg that around 20 combined applauds/smites before reading too much into it.

I have a whole bunch of smites, and as everyone knows, I've always been cool and level-headed. Wink
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2003, 09:28:26 am »

maestro,

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "one vote per person".  Does that mean I could only smite or applaud you once-ever?  What if my opinion of you changes later.  Or do you mean we should just see the net total?  I think that would be worse.  A troll could make your net total look terrible.  There would be no way to see if you ever got any applauds.  I think we should probably just keep the current system.


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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2003, 10:29:09 am »

maestro,

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "one vote per person".  Does that mean I could only smite or applaud you once-ever?  What if my opinion of you changes later.  Or do you mean we should just see the net total?  I think that would be worse.  A troll could make your net total look terrible.  There would be no way to see if you ever got any applauds.  I think we should probably just keep the current system.

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If you changed your mind about me later, you can always change your vote.  It would be a running tally, but it would not be affected by obsessive smiting or applauding.  And you could applaud someone once and know that it has meant something instead of having to react regularly to new items of discussion.  I think it would moderate the system and result in more clean results.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2003, 11:11:23 am »

maestro

Thanks for the clarification.  Your idea seems fair enough.  People would simply adjust their rating of a member up or down, no cumulative smites, but can the software do that?


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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2003, 11:48:40 am »

Thanks for putting up the poll, Charles!   Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2003, 12:30:29 pm »

Yes!

The opportunity to smite Stumpy, daily, gives me renewed reason to visit the forums each day!    Shocked

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2003, 12:39:07 pm »

Yes!

The opportunity to smite Stumpy, daily, gives me renewed reason to visit the forums each day!    Shocked

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Actually, you can smite me every 12 hours.

Stumpy-smite, twice daily. It’s right up there with an apple a day
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2003, 12:49:59 pm »

I've smote Zack Bass 3 times.  I also had to applaud him 3 times.  Who knew?

If I've been smut 10 times, does that mean I'm smitten?


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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2003, 12:52:29 pm »

Thanks for the clarification.  Your idea seems fair enough.  People would simply adjust their rating of a member up or down, no cumulative smites, but can the software do that?

Racer X

That is the key question, isn't it.  not too hard to program, but no need to go through extra work for it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2003, 03:59:54 pm »

I agree with changing the system to the ability to give each other member only one karma/smite.  You could change that vote as many times as you want, but it would only provide 1 net vote.  Racer X and Maestro are on to something!

Right now I just see karma wars in the "which state" threads.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2003, 04:33:17 pm »

I see the wisdom of allowing one applaud/smite/no vote per person and allowing someone to change their vote on a person.  However, there is still a loophole.  I can sign up multiple identities, and vote all of them.

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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2003, 04:39:40 pm »

I see the wisdom of allowing one applaud/smite/no vote per person and allowing someone to change their vote on a person.  However, there is still a loophole.  I can sign up multiple identities, and vote all of them.

Lord, anyone with that much time on their hands has other problems.
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