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Did Free Talk Live / LRN just get its own FBI raid?
« on: March 20, 2016, 10:20:35 am »

Facebook posts indicate the FBI has just raided the LRN studios at Keene.  I heard that the info came through cell 411, but I don't have any idea how to find the audio/video that gets posted there.  Who knows more about this alleged incident? 
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Re: Did Free Talk Live / LRN just get its own FBI raid?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2016, 12:01:13 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ded_HrjZU2Y

So, normally the thing to do when an activist gets raided...would be to make sure it gets the widest possible publicity.   In this case, the raid is presumably designed to leverage publicity to the advantage of the central government.  They will endeavor to change the discussion from one about NH freedom to one that associates free staters with a perceived pedo.  Normally all PR is good PR for us because it recruits more movers than viable enemies. But on this issue, that normal state of affairs will be stretched near its limits...probably not past.

Ian seems to have made their job easier by turning himself into a soft PR target. So each of us should be asking ourselves "how do we make ourselves a hard PR target?"    Zero violent rhetoric, consistent decent behavior that is perceived as consistently decent.  Support for everyone's human rights...including FBI agents and Ian Freeman. 

However while Ian has made himself hard to defend philosophically... and probably not defendable in some areas... there's another issue.  The maintenance of continued mass communication is both important to defend and reasonable to defend in a PR context.  I guess we should be focused on maintaining our communications.  Will FTL/LRN be able to continue its role as a mass communication device? Meanwhile I hope Freedom Feens can be a place for backup mass communication.

Additionally, if and when the Feds overstep the boundaries which the public can easily tolerate, then their actions will be more clearly usable to our advantage.   We'll be able to use our normal methods of turning their attacks to our growth.  Assuming the mass comms remain functional.  Perhaps that will be their next target.

For the moment the area where the NH Feds are already way out on a limb....is the Jerry DeLemus case.   If you are angry about the LRN raid and want to work on attriting their power in New Hampshire, maybe focus your PR and protest on that PR soft spot of theirs.   Not enough free staters are doing this.  Or focus on enhancing and decentralizing mass communication...Mark Edge, for example, already is starting something as of last week I believe.

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Re: Did Free Talk Live / LRN just get its own FBI raid?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2016, 10:47:18 pm »

" Zero violent rhetoric, consistent decent behavior that is perceived as consistently decent.  Support for everyone's human rights...including FBI agents and Ian Freeman."

Yes! Conflict resolution, non-violent communication. Be the example. Do the opposite of the shit BLM is doing. We can't degrade our movement, we have to show we have integrity, and most importantly the power to peacefully defend our community.

So you're saying freestaters can protest this with publicity. How? Should we send something in to Cop Block? At least get it out to our media even if it's not that big, like Free Thought Project. I wish Stefan Molyneux would do some publicity about the FSP, seriously it's like he's ignoring it, it's so blatant.
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Re: Did Free Talk Live / LRN just get its own FBI raid?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 03:31:33 pm »

Maybe just increase your level of peaceable liberty activity...?  Whatever you think is appropriate to do along those lines.

So there are several questions I still have regarding the raid...

1) Has a copy of the warrant and other Federal paperwork that might be in the hands of freedom folk....been made available to the public? At least a redacted version. If so, where can it be found? If not, why not?
2) Was there an attempt to record video/audio inside the house? If not ....why not?
3) When I went to the Cell 411 website the day of the event, I didn't see any way to use that site for the purpose of finding out what was going on with this raid. Why not? What if anything am I doing wrong, and what if anything is lacking in the way the site looks when you pop in there wanting information about something that happened in a specific place?
4) Has Ian ever publicly admitted to sexual contact with a minor, and if so...what ages are we talking about? If not... I guess a bit of innocent until proven guilty would apply. And statements/rulings from govt. folk don't have a history of being very reliable.
5) What is the exact post or Free Talk Live statement that is the most questionable thing Ian has had to say on this kind of subject?
6) I haven't yet heard much in the way of statements from Ian Freeman...am I missing something, or is he reacting to this attack almost silently?
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Re: Did Free Talk Live / LRN just get its own FBI raid?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2016, 05:26:04 pm »

Looks like almost all the discussion of this is on FaceBook. 

It seems like the best response to the FTL-FBI situation is "above all do no harm; increase my own level of liberty activity."   For at least a month.  Every govt. attack on our guys should result in more activity; that is the best deterrent to govt. attacks.  It does not need to be - and in this case maybe shouldn't be - activity related to the target of the attack.  It may be best to focus your peaceable "reactivism" on on the government's weak point of your choosing.   
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