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Re:Yes! Move to NH
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2002, 01:44:17 pm »


What about getting a bunch of anti-development, anti-P&Z people together and buying a single bloc of several hundred acres?  Then they could perhaps contract with each other not to sell off or subdivide their land in perpetuity.

That sounds reasonable.  But what about neighbors who've already bought their land separately and perhaps even built their homes.  Could they then contract with each other to not sell off or subdivide their land?  Would such a contract hold water, legally speaking?
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Re:Yes! Move to NH
« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2002, 06:28:49 pm »



What about getting a bunch of anti-development, anti-P&Z people together and buying a single bloc of several hundred acres?  Then they could perhaps contract with each other not to sell off or subdivide their land in perpetuity.

That sounds reasonable.  But what about neighbors who've already bought their land separately and perhaps even built their homes.  Could they then contract with each other to not sell off or subdivide their land?  Would such a contract hold water, legally speaking?



Well, I should think it would hold water.  If those contracts aren't binding under current law, that's something we can work for in the free state certainly.
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New Hampshire voters
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2002, 03:06:42 pm »

The article below is about the current New Hampshire senate race, but it also reveals much about New Hampshire voters. For example, it says that one third of the residents have moved in within the last decade. It also says that they are fiscally conservative like the existing residents but are socially liberal on issues like abortion.

There is much more, and it would be useful if folks from New Hampshire can confirm or correct this article.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2002-10-17-newhampsen-usat_x.htm

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« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2002, 07:00:53 pm »

If anyone is interested, we were up in the White Mountains this past weekend and I took a few photos. It was kind of a dreary weekend (overcast and drizzly), but the colors are gorgeous anyhow.

http://www.distinctiveweb.com/photos/index.html

I find it really fascinating that there are many here who perceive NH as too crowded. That is not my experience of NH at all. We are working on the LP campaigns, so things are really hectic right now, but after the elections, we are taking a trip up to Northern NH (around Pittsburgh), and I can post a few photos from that area if anyone is interested.
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Re:NH Foliage Photos
« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2002, 07:34:10 pm »

Those were GORGEOUS!!  Thanks for sharing them!   :D
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Re:NH Foliage Photos
« Reply #50 on: October 23, 2002, 06:52:22 am »

On the down side to NH, though, we just got our first snow  :(
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Re:NH Foliage Photos
« Reply #51 on: October 23, 2002, 07:39:46 am »

LOL! I was wondering if I should take a photo of my backyard this morning.   :P  Realistically though, I can't remember the last time we had such an early snow. The earliest is usually around Thanksgiving and even that is early - especially near the coasts. Hopefully the sun will come out and this will all be gone by tomorrow.
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« Reply #52 on: October 23, 2002, 09:31:50 am »

This may be an early snow for NH but we had our first snow like 2 weeks ago.  Today it is only 23 degrees out and it was snowing yesterday too.  The bad news it this is NOT really that early for us.   :-\   It is always cold and snowy by Halloween and you have to design your kid's costume to fit over their big, winter coat.
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Re:NH Foliage Photos
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2002, 01:36:35 pm »


If anyone is interested, we were up in the White Mountains this past weekend and I took a few photos.

Wow.  We Californians don't get anything like that.

I do have to say, though, that posting such beautiful pictures should not be allowed on this forum  ;) .  It causes readers to lose all sense of rationality in trying to decide which state we should pick.  If  beautiful countryside were the key factor, NH would be near the top of the list.  Unfortunately, we have to consider low population as well.

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I find it really fascinating that there are many here who perceive NH as too crowded.

I've never been to NH, but my impression is that there are plenty of places where you can get "away from it all", especially in the mountains.  The somewhat high total population seems like a much bigger concern, however.
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Re:NH Foliage Photos
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2002, 05:40:13 pm »

I thought the colors this year were lackluster, which I think can be attributed to the lack of rain this summer.  There were a lot of mustard-like colors.

Off topic, but NH people might appreciate this: the other day Katrina Swett and her entourage were in Lebanon waving at passersby.  My middle finger waved back.  
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Re:New Hampshire voters
« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2002, 08:22:40 pm »

One cause for concern is that this article predicts that New Hampshire will reelect its Governor, a Democrat.
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Re:New Hampshire voters
« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2002, 09:55:53 am »

This week's Economist has an article about the New Hampshire Senate race, and it says a lot about the people there.  Unfortunately, the text is not available on their web site, so I will copy it here, and put in a plug for The Economist: it's a great magazine, nearly libertarian, and certainly beats TimeNewsweek.

http://www.Economist.com

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Natural-born Republicans

Oct 24th 2002 | DURHAM
From The Economist print edition

NEW Hampshire has an ambivalent relationship with the Bush dynasty. This rural enclave was the only state in New England to vote for George Bush in the 2000 presidential election, giving him four vital electoral votes. But its presidential primary has seldom been kind to the Bushes. In 1992 George Bush senior beat Pat Buchanan by an insultingly small margin for a sitting president; this was to be a warning of disaster to come. In 2000 his son lost to John McCain, igniting an internal Republican revolt that was only stopped by dark deeds in South Carolina.

Now the state has a chance to determine whether President Bush can push his ambitious legislative agenda through Congress. Republicans will be hard-pressed to win control of the Senate if they allow their hold over New Hampshire to be broken. But Jeanne Shaheen, the Democratic candidate, is putting up a strong fight against her Republican rival, John Sununu, and stands an even chance of becoming the first Granite State Democrat elected to the Senate since 1975.

New Hampshire has 245,791 registered Republicans, compared with 242,028 independents and just 170,405 Democrats. The culture of the state, from its motto (“Live free or die”) to its laisser-faire attitude to adults wearing seat-belts, is thoroughly Republican. The state has one of the lowest tax burdens in the country and no income tax. Republicans control both statehouses and both congressional seats.

The easiest way to get applause in a political meeting is to make a joke about Teddy Kennedy, a man who combines the sins of being a big-government liberal with the even worse sin of coming from Massachussets. It's not for nothing that two of America's most amusing conservative writers, Mark Steyn and P. J. O'Rourke, have houses in New Hampshire.

The Republican establishment also succeeded in engineering a coup during its primary, getting rid of their embarassing incumbent, Bob Smith. Mr Smith had alienated Republicans, both locally and nationally, by leaving the party in a sulk when his bid for the presidency went nowhere, denouncing the Republicans on the Senate floor, and then rejoining them in return for a committee chairmanship. Internal party polls also showed that Mr Smith was likely to lose to Ms Shaheen.

Mr Sununu is a much sounder candidate than his predecessor: a three-term congressman whose father was the state's governor before becoming Bush senior's chief-of-staff. He makes up for his Vulcan-like manner with a willingness to stand up for his principles and a wry sense of humour. He will also get a filip from Craig Benson, a software millionaire, who is boosting the Republican cause by spending over $10m on the governor's race.

Yet Mr Sununu is struggling to capitalise on this natural advantage. A month ago, the polls put him ahead of Ms Shaheen by as much as ten points. Now the lead seems to be alternating, though the latest poll, from the American Research Group, puts Mr Sununu ahead by eight points.

Mr Sununu faces two big problems. The first is the bitter legacy of the Republican primary. A significant number of Mr Smith's supporters plan to take revenge by staying at home, writing in Mr Smith's name, or even voting for Ms Shaheen. Conservatives complain that, thanks to the establishment's double-dealing, the number of “movement” conservatives in the congressional delegation has shrunk from three in 1993 to none today. Buchananites sneer at Mr Sununu's father. Meanwhile some moderates worry that Mr Sununu is not as green as Mr Smith.

The impact of all this is not clear. A poll earlier this month by the survey centre at the University of New Hampshire found that one in four Republicans who voted in the primary would vote for Ms Shaheen. Some analysts speculate that 2-3% of Republicans may write in Mr Smith's name. The closeness of the election and the size of the stakes in Washington will probably reduce both these numbers. But the party's internal squabbles have undoubtedly diverted energy and resources. So far, Ms Shaheen has spent over $5m on the race—about $2m more than Mr Sununu.

The second problem is Ms Shaheen herself. The three-term governor is a dream candidate for the Democrats: a moderate who supports Mr Bush on tax cuts and Iraq but nevertheless endorses a slew of Democratic spending projects. Ms Shaheen is one of life's head-girls; her fixed smile and Goody-Two-shoes manner give her an uncanny resemblance to the anti-hero of “Election”, a film about an insufferable girl who will do anything to become senior class president. But she is making a good job of reaching out to the state's vital independents, painting Mr Sununu as a right-wing ogre and emphasising her friendship with Jim Jeffords, the only independent in the Senate.

The closeness of the race means that New Hampshire is saturated with politics. Radio programmes are interrupted every few minutes by political advertisements. Every lawn has sprouted a sign. The two campaigns will probably end up spending $15m on the Senate race—an astonishing figure, when you consider that only 300,000 people will turn out to vote.

Whoever wins on November 5th, Arab-Americans will have something to celebrate. Mr Sununu is part-Palestinian and part-Lebanese. Jeanne Shaheen is married to a Lebanese-American. New Hampshire, a state which is often criticised for forcing America's primary candidates to parade before an all-white audience, is about to do its bit for the fortunes of one of America's most overlooked ethnic minorities.
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Re:NH Foliage Photos
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2002, 12:13:01 pm »






IT'S COLD THERE!!!!!!
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Re:Yes! Move to NH
« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2002, 04:23:32 pm »

In my opinion the way around the whole p&z, sprawl, high cost of housing/land debate is to insure that all 20K liberty loving peoples moving to NH are also fully behind the teachings of Henry George's single tax on land idea:

http://www.progress.org/geonomy/

Then we could also put together a coalition of libertarians and Greens to really makes some waves!

http://geolib.pair.com/essays/sullivan.dan/greenlibertarians.html

Has everyone also read John McGlaughry's (head of Ethan Allen institute in VT) seminal book: "the Vermont Papers" fascinating -

"This book is an earnest, detailed blueprint to transform Vermont, shrinking the state government by three-quarters and returning power to the towns and a new entity, the shire (an area somewhat smaller than a county). Vermont would, in the Swiss manner, become a federation of autonomous cantons, here not working with Swiss precision but rather a "healthy chaos" of cantankerous Yankee republics. Back to the towns and shires go welfare, education, the lower courts, roads, and much taxation. In a reversal of the usual order, all unspecified powers are reserved by the town and shire, not the state. The state looks after civil rights and the environment (but no prissy ordinances against leaving a junk car or three in the dooryard); runs a supreme court; and administers all sundry financial matters. This shrunken state government is Ereed up to lobby the Federal government and play a world role (through die Office of Global Involvement). "Our reform abandons the way of government currently in favor: education by mega-standards, welfare by mailbox, police protection by radio, and health care by stranger," say the authors. If the roads and schools vary from shire to shire, then that is the price of democracy. The bulk of the book is taken up with the intricate details of this new goverturient, including everything from creating heraldry and pageants for the shire to a ten-point program for agriculture and a timetable for a Vermont constitutional convention to set their plan in motion

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0930031318/qid=1035753594/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-2008458-3776641?v=glance&n=507846#product-details

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Re:Yes! Move to NH
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2002, 05:38:53 pm »


In my opinion the way around the whole p&z, sprawl, high cost of housing/land debate is to insure that all 20K liberty loving peoples moving to NH are also fully behind the teachings of Henry George's single tax on land idea:

http://www.progress.org/geonomy/


Well, I should emphasize that we are not necessarily moving to NH.  It is one of the 10 candidate states.  As to the land tax idea, it certainly isn't a new one and people have lots of opinions about it.  You probably won't find too many Georgists in our group, but I should think they'd be welcome, so long as they are committed to repealing income, property, and sales taxes.
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