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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Marine Arrested for "Mental Illness"]
« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2012, 12:46:48 pm »

* The "rebellious" marine has been released by another judge now, it seems.
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: OK Billboard Calls Col. Redcoat]
« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2012, 05:50:26 pm »

Oath Keepers to Place Billboard Outside Ft. Leavenworth to Protest Small Wars Journal Article Demonizing Tea Party as Future "Enemy" of U.S. Military

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Since Colonel Benson has chosen to demonize the Tea Party movement, by using the Tea Party as the "bad guys"- along with militias - in his hypothetical scenario of future domestic military operations, and since he is apparently using his position at Ft. Leavenworth to brainwash young officers into thinking that the Tea Party is a potential future enemy they will have to fire upon, we feel it is crucial to counter his propaganda in as direct a manner as possible, sending a clear message not just to him, but to his students there at Ft. Leavenworth and to all others stationed there, and to the broader Army.   Those young officers need to understand that if they fire on fellow Americans, permitting themselves to be used as tools of oppression, and if they participate in martial law on U.S. soil, then they will become the new "red coats"and will be desecrating and destroying all that generations of American fighting men have bled and died to secure - our liberty. ...
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: OK Billboard Calls Col. Redcoat]
« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2012, 10:08:39 pm »

Slight problem would be that 'honoring their oath' might require them to fire upon Americans.
The US Constitution lays out the ground rules for such an occasion.
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: NH Sheriff Investigating Mortgage Fraud]
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2012, 09:11:53 pm »

Try Article One Section Eight Clause One w/modification on under the 16th Amendment. And if you read the Codes... you'll see that they are not voluntary. There is no such thing as 'voluntary taxation'.

And the US Constitution talks of acquistion of land for forts/etc within the States. What your speaking of is that land that is federal territory. It was not acquired after Statehood.

And you can't use the Supremacy Clause to argue against my use of the Supremacy Clause to explain that a Sheriff only has the same ability of any citizen to seek ruling by SCOTUS on constitutionality.
 

   Not very much of this is correct.. Signing W2  W4 contracts and signing contract w/ irs by signing return promising 5 years in prison and 50K penalty that you are a taxpayer and liab. They don,t charge you a wage tax. period.. They ask you first sentence if you are a taxpayer?  The Income tax is structured for profits minus cost of business equals INCOME, Business Income.   All taxation will go thru the census of the states???  Taxation of Wages is Voluntary and always has been, thats why they have to call it INCOME tax or it would be illegal.   W2 means Going to War WW1  W4 means money going 4 war efforts.  Federal State and Local and govt employees Must pay income tax because of their status working for govt. they are considered members of the Corp. Stockholders. Free citizens have no liab.  Back to Income, Profits minus cost of doing business. If you are a tax payer, only in your dreams, then do you like Corp America, deduct your fuel[trans], work clothes , tires brakes oil changes, lunches, baths, coffee, gifts, entertainment, insurance, license, registration, car payments, tools uniforms, laundry, education, child care, etc etc etc..
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2012, 09:29:59 am »

MOLON LABE

How the Second Amendment Guarantees America's Freedom
http://wramsite.com/profiles/blogs/please-get-the-word-out-about-a-powerfull-movie-called-molon-labe?xg_source=activity
 
Oath Keepers is proud to participate in the movie Molon Labe, described below. Stewart Rhodes and Sheriff Mack are featured figures in this film, and I am an associate producer on the movie. We are inviting each member and supporter of Oath Keepers to please contribute to this film, which is now in production.   

Why should Oath Keepers support this film? Because the film is a Constitutional masterpiece dedicated to the Second Amendment - with emphasis on the first part of the Second Amendment:   

"A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state...." Have you ever wondered why the American States have largely moved away from maintaining their Constitutional Militia?

Based on Dr. Edwin Vieira's essay entitled "The Militia of the Several States", this movie reminds Americans that true Constitutional "homeland security" centers on the Militia of the Several States (which, of course, is We The People ourselves), and not on some over-grown Federal bureaucracy which violates our "unalienable rights".

While other great movies are circulating presently or are in process of being made, Molon Labe by James Jaeger moves the tape all the way to the goal line. Read James Jaeger's call to action below, and take heart that Oath Keepers is on the front line in the battle to preserve our Republic and the Constitution which created it. Your donations are our ammo! Thank you for your support.

Message from James Jaeger and Matrixx Entertainment film company:

Dear Concerned Citizen:

We have recently started production on a new movie called -

MOLON LABE

How the Second Amendment Guarantees America's Freedom.

MOLON LABE features RON PAUL, PAT BUCHANAN, G. EDWARD GRIFFIN and is based on the works of EDWIN VIEIRA (a Constitutional attorney with four degrees from Harvard).  The film also features SHERIFF MACK; Oath Keepers Founder, STEWART RHODES; military commander, DAVID R. GILLIE and Senatorial Candidate, JACK ROONEY.
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2012, 07:21:32 pm »

Larry Pratt, Jesse Ventura Join Cast of MOLON LABE

How the Second Amendment Guarantees America's Freedom

Note by Elias Alias to all Oath Keepers, Associate Oath Keepers, supporters of Oath Keepers, Constitutionalists, Patriots, Veterans, Americans:

As Charlie Daniels has stated, "Something's wrong and we all know it."

As Claire Wolfe has stated, "America is at that awkward stage: It's too late to work within the system, and too early to shoot the bastards."

Oath Keepers is an educational organization with outreach to Veterans, current-serving soldiers and peace officers and firefighters. Oath Keepers is focused on the Oath required by this nation's founding legal charter, the U.S. Constitution, to which all peace officers, military, and firefighters swear [or affirm] their sacred Oath. Part of our educational outreach involves promoting on the Internet the consciousness which enhances every cop's and soldier's and firefighter's understanding of the true meaning carried in that Oath.

I am proud to announce a bold addition to the Oath Keepers outreach activities. Oath Keepers Founder Stewart Rhodes will be featured in a new movie slated to be released in coming months. With him also will appear Oath Keepers Board of Directors member Sheriff Richard Mack. I am calling on each American reading this to rise to support this movie project, because I can envision thousands of you chipping in five or ten or more dollars to help fund the project. We need grassroots help to make this film happen. This movie will greatly benefit the Oath Keepers mission nation-wide. Please read the below announcement, which is a progress report on the film's development.

James Jaeger likes to support the Oath Keepers mission. Now he is pooling together a most impressive group of American patriots in one powerful documentary movie. This update is specifically to announce the good news that Larry Pratt, President of Gun Owners of America, and Jesse Ventura, former U.S. Navy SEAL and Governor of Minnesota, have agreed to join the cast of the film.

Please review the impressive list of experts James Jaeger has assembled, and while pondering on this lineup of patriotic Americans, remember these words by Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., who's works inspired this movie -

"The "Militia of the several States" are State institutions which are required to perform certain limited functions for the General Government, and basically unlimited functions for the States and the people. The primary requirement to maintain the Militia in their proper form rests with the States, and ultimately the people. ...This movie will examine the constitutional status, character, and purpose of the Militia as the ultimate guarantor of We the People's sovereignty."

Since the early 1900s, with only a few exceptions, the 'Militia of the Several States' have for the most part faded from daily life here in America, and the results are now visible. This update/report on the progress of Molon Labe can, if we all get on board and support it every way we can, represent the pivot point on which America gains the cognizant will to return to our Constitutional heritage as Free Americans. I salute James Jaeger and his all-star cast of Constitutional experts.

Please read the following announcement from James Jaeger, and make your decision to contribute at the link below. When you contribute, please let James Jaeger know that you're donating on behalf of Oath Keepers. Oath Keepers is hoping to have an opening screen credit for our organization as "Associate Producer", which means we'll be right up front at the start of the movie. Because of the powerful message in this movie, it is bound to go viral, and the publicity will help Oath Keepers expand our outreach to military, peace officer, and firefighter personnel exponentially. Catch the vision! Send in what you can, on behalf of Oath Keepers.

Thank you!

See below for mail-in directions, and click here to donate online.

http://www.molon.us/donate

Salute!

Elias Alias, editor, Oath Keepers
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2012, 07:42:57 pm »

The Articles of Confederation was the founding document of the United States of America.
And what function is the NH militia 'required' to perform for the 'General Government'?
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2012, 11:12:26 pm »

Larry Pratt, Jesse Ventura Join Cast of MOLON LABE

How the Second Amendment Guarantees America's Freedom

Note by Elias Alias to all Oath Keepers, Associate Oath Keepers, supporters of Oath Keepers, Constitutionalists, Patriots, Veterans, Americans:

This update is specifically to announce the good news that Larry Pratt, President of Gun Owners of America, and Jesse Ventura, former U.S. Navy SEAL and Governor of Minnesota, have agreed to join the cast of the film.

Salute!

Elias Alias, editor, Oath Keepers


Larry Pratt is a long way from being a freedom lover. Pratt is a religious fundamentalist who wants to use the full power of the central government to impose an extremist theocratic government on the American people.
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2012, 10:24:18 am »

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John said: The Articles of Confederation was the founding document of the United States of America.
And what function is the NH militia 'required' to perform for the 'General Government'?
* The Declaration of Independence was the founding document. The Articles became void when they were found to be unenforceable. That leaves the Constitution as the next founding document, I do believe.
* Do you favor having the federal government (the military-industrial complex, Homeland Security etc) defend the people? I favor having local militias do that. I think they're much more reliable.

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AA said: Larry Pratt [involved in the Oathkeepers movie] is a long way from being a freedom lover. Pratt is a religious fundamentalist who wants to use the full power of the central government to impose an extremist theocratic government on the American people.

* I acknowledge that Oathkeepers has some questionable alliances. The John Birch Society is the one that comes to mind readily. But I don't know Larry Pratt. Instead of making claims about him, why don't you provide quotes and sources? I believe people's own words more than I do others' claims about them. But even our own words can often be misinterpreted or misstated.
* I did a little net searching on Pratt now and find that he's accused of being a racist because he spoke to neo-nazis in Estes Park, Colorado back in 1992, I think. But some suggest that it was a militia group or convention or survivalist group that he spoke to and lying alarmists like to call such people neo-nazis, when most probably are not. It was because of that speaking engagement that he got in hot water when he worked for Buchanan for President in 2000, it seems.
* Someone else claimed that he's anti-Muslim and referred to his article or speech, "Sudden Jihad Syndrome". So I checked that out and it seems it's not at all racist or extremist. It seems reasonable in warning that the Quran is used by many as an excuse for terror and tyranny, even if it's misinterpreted. Here's a quote from the first part of that article:
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SUDDEN JIHAD SYNDROME, TAKE TWO
By Larry Pratt May 9, 2007 NewsWithViews.com
- It is evident that America has not yet looked at Islam for what it is. Even in the gun owning community, there are many who only know of Islam from what the politically correct -- and some Muslim spokesmen ­ have propagated.
- We are told by some that Islam is a religion of peace, and there are even verses that are cited to make that case. The problem is not just that there are blood curdling calls for mass murder in the Qur'an, there is a verse that calls for the abrogation of earlier verses by later verses: 2:106. "Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We {Allah} abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?"
- The happy, earlier verses of respecting the people of the book (Jews and Christians) are abrogated by the later verses calling for their slaughter.
- This is not to say that all Muslims subscribe to this. Happily, most do not. The problem for moderate Muslims, not to mention for the rest of us, is that until another system of interpreting the Qur'an is accepted within Islam, the radicals have the support of the Qur'an behind their calls for violent jihad.
- This is why the history of Islam has been one of violence, conquest and slavery. Qur'anic law, or Sharia, supports the subjugation and murder of all non-Muslims everywhere in the world. Where Islam has become the dominant religion, Qur’anic law is implemented, and all non-Muslims who are not killed are forced into Dhimmitude ­ a condition of servile subjection quite beyond the designation of “second class citizen.” Dhimmis are not citizens under Sharia.
* He's also said to be a friend or associate of John Ashcroft. That's the scariest thing I've read so far, since Ashcroft seems to be a fascist, having acted like one under Bush#2, with the Patriot Act etc. But being an associate of a fascist doesn't make you a fascist.
* Here's a little on Pratt from this site: http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.pe-q.htm :
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Pratt addressed the 1992 "Christian Men's Meeting," organized by  Christian Identity racist, Pete Peters. Other featured speakers included former Ku Klux Klan leader and Aryan Nation official Louis Beam and Aryan Nations Founder Richard Butler.  He gave a speech at the 1993 Jubilation Conference in Sacramento, California, an annual gathering of far-rightists' sponsored by the anti-Semitic publisher of Jubilee, the flagship tabloid of the Christian Identity movement.  41
- "...on repeated occasions, Pratt spoke at meetings and on cable television programs as the invited guest of Pete Peters, a leader of the pseudo-religion known as Christian Identity. Christian Identity preaches that Jews are the offspring of Satan and that blacks are a "pre-Adamic" race of subhumans created before Adam and Eve. At a 1992 meeting, Pratt stood by as Peters raged against "Talmudic filth." (Pratt has also been a guest on the anti-Semitic Liberty Lobby's "Radio Free America.") ... In his 1990 book, Armed People Victorious, he urged the United States to adopt a system of civil defense patrols like the one imposed on the population of Guatemala by its military bosses. "It is time that the United States return to reliance on an armed people," he wrote. "There is no acceptable alternative."..." 42
 
* The statements in red here are more damning. The statement in green sounds like spin, i.e. a lie. I suspect that what they call anti-semitic is actually anti-Zionist. I believe Zionism is fascist and racist. The underlined statements sound reasonable. They're pretending that militias would be fascists or terrorists, whereas that's what the federal govt is becoming. But Pratt's close association with Pete Peters does make me distrust his intentions. I don't know if they lied about Peters or the Christian Identity movement, but I assume those allegations are true so far.
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2012, 01:59:15 pm »

So your arguing for the AofC and that it is VOID all at the same time.

And the AofC is the original founding document, even from whence the nations name came from; since there was no confederation under the DofI, just a statement of belief.

But that still doesn't equate to what the State militia is REQUIRED to do for 'General Government'?
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2012, 04:23:14 pm »

John, are you saying the executive branch has to obey the judiciary branch's interpretation of the Constitution, even if their interpretation is wrong? That would make the executive subordinate to the judicial.
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2012, 12:21:11 am »

Yes. But it doesn't make them subordinate, because they nominate and appoint the judicial.
NH has a balanced system with no specific point of empowerment.
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2012, 01:40:26 pm »


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AA said: Larry Pratt [involved in the Oathkeepers movie] is a long way from being a freedom lover. Pratt is a religious fundamentalist who wants to use the full power of the central government to impose an extremist theocratic government on the American people.

* I acknowledge that Oathkeepers has some questionable alliances. The John Birch Society is the one that comes to mind readily. But I don't know Larry Pratt. Instead of making claims about him, why don't you provide quotes and sources? I believe people's own words more than I do others' claims about them. But even our own words can often be misinterpreted or misstated.

When I want to know something about someone I usually just ask them personally, rather than relying on media and other third parties. In this case, I know Larry Pratt. He believes that the US is a "Christian nation," and he uses GOA to advance his fundamentalist agenda. Of course, you don't have to believe me, you can do some easy research yourself. Take a look at campaigns where there have been at least two pro-gun people running and where GOA has assisted one over the other, then take a look at the favored candidate. In every such instance of which I am aware, the candidate backed by GOA is an anti-abortion, fundamentalist Christian.

In NH, GOA's affiliated organization is the NH Firearms Coalition. Larry Pratt is closely connected to the group's owners and has attended fundraisers for this group, at least once dressed as George Washington. NHFC has a history of backing mediocre pro-gun candidates who are anti-abortion over very pro-gun candidates who are not anti-abortion. Two years ago, they even endorsed a violent white supremacist over a normal, strongly pro-gun candidate because the supremacist was both pro-gun and anti-abortion.
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2012, 01:54:58 pm »

* Richard Mack is a strong supporter of Oathkeepers. I believe his wife's parents are or were Mormons and members of the John Birch Society. Romney is a Mormon. I wonder if Mack supports Romney for president and if Romney is strongly anti-abortion. I'm anti-abortion, but I don't favor trying to impose that on anyone. although I think it would be good if abortion doctors would put aborted fetuses on life support, like they do other premature babies, and let them be adopted if they survive. Someone at OWS argued that rights belong to persons and that personhood begins about the 20th week after conception and that seems reasonable to me. If I were female and pregnant with an unwanted fetus, I'd rather give it up to adoption, rather than have it killed, no matter what its age.
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Re: Oathkeepers & CSPOA [Update: Making 2nd Amendment Movie]
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2012, 03:32:45 pm »

Luck...
Most abortions occur long before any viability.
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