[The following is claimed to be info from a German intelligence agent retired. He said a false flag nuclear attack on America was planned for late 2004 by people in the Bush administration. What interests me about this German Guy's thread is what it says about a group of spies, called The Library, who work to prevent the Pathocrats, or the Hidden Hand, from carrying out most of their false flag schemes for fascism etc.]POSSIBLE EFFECTIVE OPPONENTS OF PATHOCRACYhttp://www.wanttoknow.info/germanguy
1:56 am EST Re: December 27 ... Expect "something big" ... This is it, folks
. . . To 9-11. I personally (and many within the German intelligence services) believe that 9-11 was an internal operation planned and executed by an extreme pro-Israel faction within the American government and intelligence services. The technicalities evident in both planning, timing and precision flying point to the use of technologies not available to so-called terrorist groups.
We believe that the relationship between the so-called al-Qaeda group (really the Muslim Brotherhood which is financed by the British) and the Israeli intelligence services is very complicated, but there is an alliance of convenience. We ran a personality profile on some of the alleged hijackers, analysed handwriting and applied linguistic methodologies, and thus believe that Atta was a Mossad asset.
There is also an enabling aspect on the part of the Pakistani intelligence services, which is a clone of the CIA. Yesterday Musharraf told your media that he had done everything possible to destroy the Taliban enclave in the border areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan. This is a lie. Neither the Americans nor the Pakistanis have any intention of breaking the Afghan rebel forces, as they will need them to become more extreme and regain the coüntry at a future date.
I think it would be very interesting to see Osama bin Laden and Mr Wolfowitz in a room together privately, for I am sure they would kiss each other on the cheeks as brothers under the skin with roughly the same general project, though sharply divergent goals.
. . . 2:25 am EST Re: December 27
. . . By NWO I think you are referring to the "new world order" system Bush Senior spoke of during the first Gulf War.
If there is a continuing move to a world order of concentrated power, then this would rely first on the destruction of the American people and the American system of government. This is already happening in the United States and the biggest culprits are to be found in the American government itself.
It seems that a grouping of international corporate entities and financial institutions have decided that America at this late stage is only good for projecting military force, and so it will use up American resources to advance its own agenda until there is not much left of American power and credibility.
At the geopolitical level there are only two main beneficiaries: Israel and the City of London (Israel will then be destroyed by the CoL and international corporate power groups). At the financial-imperial level, the major corporations and institutions involved in the bleeding away of American military power have little to lose, since all of them have sufficient assets outside of US territories and would survive the collapse of the United States as a global power.
So if this is what you mean by a world order, then you are correct. It will not be a global system of control connived by nation states, but rather by corporate and financial entities (who already enjoy enormous power and influence at all levels in all countries).
. . . I still keep in touch with some of my colleagues and we continue to swap notes (over a beer or several :-), and I still have good contacts to some Americans I used to work with. Furthermore I work as a hobbyist with an old partner who is a technical computer genius and we network with other retired or resigned BND service personnel.
Let me tell you what we fear most - and this comes out of our intercepts. We do not fear so-called Arab "terrorists". We fear Mossad and we fear some of the groups that work on the far side of the CIA.
Mr Rumsfeld once explained his "mad dog" theory of international posturing, saying that an unpredicatble America would be an America respected out of fear. Well he is wrong. Because after a while the unpredictability becomes eminently predictable and all vanishes into thin air.
. . . 5:19 pm EST Re: December 27
. . . we knew about the planned 9-11 attacks three months before they occurred and we warned the American government twice. They chose to ignore us.
Because of our intelligence findings, there is not one government in Europe that believes the official version handed down to the American people. That includes Tony Blair, Mr Bush´s staunchest ally.
Every prime minister and every president within the EU (and most not in the EU) knows that 9-11 was an internal operation, and though their intelligence services have made that fact known to their American counterparts, none dare address the US government directly. To some extent this is where Mr Rumsfeld´s "mad dog" policy had some success in the beginning. However, Germany´s foreign minister (and my last political boss) Joschka Fischer, saw off US pressure to commit German troops to Iraq by privately telling Rumsfeld that sanctions against Germany would result in his publishing these findings in the media and telling the world about it. It worked, and the Bush administration backed off.
. . . 5:36 pm EST Re: December 27
. . . More recently we have been monitoring intensively the situation in Iran and American preparations for an assault on that nation´s installations.
Without betraying any aspect of Iran´s readiness in this matter, I can only advise the Penatagon against any incursions in that sphere. The immediate consequences for Israel would be dramatic, to say the least, and the US navy would be seriously injured.
However, as I said before, there is an obsession at play in the US administration by senior people who are not primarily concerned with America´s best interests, but with certain corporate interests. Not even the loss of Israel, which is inevitable anyway, worries these people much.
Even Ariel Sharon has purchased for himself property in Greece and many member of the Israeli establishment are making preparations to relocate to South America, most likely Patagonia where huge tracts of land have already been purchased by the Israeli government with funds supplied by the United States. Indeed, we estimate that around 20 percent of the defence budget allocated for Iraq has mysteriously disappeared into this account.
. . . 6:00 pm EST
. . . we learned through intercepts that the Pentagon had employed "psychics" to visualise suspected Iraqi outposts. These lunatics then claimed to have seen huge stockpiles of lethal weaponry, including the whole palette of ABC weapons. On this basis, America invaded a country that did not threaten them.
Now I hear that Mr Wolfowitz is talking to Jewish mystics to try to divine the right decison to make on Iran, this time through the arts of Kabbala. I know very little about this kind of religious practise but I do know that you should not allow such things to influence the foreign policy of the world´s major nation.
. . . I enjoy reading posts made in many so-called "intelligence forums" where people speculate about what may or may not happen. That´s how I found a lively discussion here about two months ago and I thought it would be interesting for me to post some of my information here too.